As Black Atheists Should We Look Up To Malcolm X or Martin Luther King

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lets be honest about chrisitiantiy in america, as far as races are concerned

white people sold it to slaves. "dont worry about us enslaving you and treating you like shyt, theres this jesus dude who'll reward you eternally so work for us like animals in the meantime"

i feel like thats the legacy of christianty among blacks in this country.. praying to a white jesus :scusthov: shyt, the fukk has jesus done for anyone?

lol and whites haven't 'sold' atheism to blacks? The first atheists on the net I knew of were angry, bitter white nerds. The typical atheists held in high esteem such as Hawkins, Maher and their ilk are for the most part white. What have white atheists done for blacks? Maybe we need to go check out Margaret Sanger and her "Negro Project" and the utilization of abortion as a tool to limit the black population. Let's take a gander at a fairly recent news article:
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/371704/more-black-babies-aborted-born-new-york-city-alec-torres

In 2012, black women in New York City aborted over 6,500 more children than they gave birth to. Data from the New York City Department of Health and Mental Hygiene shows that, among non-hispanic black women, there were 31,328 “induced terminations” to 24,758 live births, according to a CNS News report.

In total, there were almost 74,000 abortions in New York in 2012, meaning that 42.4 percent of all abortions were of black children. Hispanic children accounted for 31 percent of those aborted in the city at a total of nearly 23,000.

Altogether, black and Hispanic abortions were 73 percent of the total of 73,815 abortions in New York in 2012.

For years, New York has had the highest abortion rate of any city in the nation.
 

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MLK was a communist, socialist, and progressive who studied some of the most SECULARIST people in history...and you think he was HONESTLY religious?

Now, you might say that he was...but I think he knew how to play his strengths.

so studying a secularist makes you secular? I guess most scientists are secretly religious because they studied Newton, who was religious. I guess people who utilize the research obtained from the human genome project are also secretly religious because Francis Collins is a Christian.
 

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Terrible thread, the fukk does someone's religous beliefs have to do with their view on civil rights? so according to u I guess u have to agree with every aspect of a persons life in order to respect them? That makes no sense. I am looked up to by many but at the same time a lot of people don't realy agree with the fact that i toss salads and enjoy getting my culo tickled.
 

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lol and whites haven't 'sold' atheism to blacks? The first atheists on the net I knew of were angry, bitter white nerds. The typical atheists held in high esteem such as Hawkins, Maher and their ilk are for the most part white. What have white atheists done for blacks? Maybe we need to go check out Margaret Sanger and her "Negro Project" and the utilization of abortion as a tool to limit the black population. Let's take a gander at a fairly recent news article:

First off it goes without saying that nerdy bitter atheists you met online aren't representative of all atheists.

And not that this kind of point scoring serves any purpose but you can't even begin to argue that more harm was done to black people by white atheists than in the name of Christianity.

The plight of black people is a social justice issue and no sensible individual looks to Hawking, Maher or even Dawkins for that matter for guidance in that regard.

Examples of Atheists that actively pursued equality for black people date back to the 19th century, beginning with figures like Franz Boas and Abner Kneeland and there have been many more since. If you were genuinely curious about what white atheists have done for blacks you would have checked.

At any rate there have been enough prolific black atheists over the last century for us to feel no need to look to whites so your point is kinda lost on me.
 

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lets be honest about chrisitiantiy in america, as far as races are concerned

white people sold it to slaves. "dont worry about us enslaving you and treating you like shyt, theres this jesus dude who'll reward you eternally so work for us like animals in the meantime"

i feel like thats the legacy of christianty among blacks in this country.. praying to a white jesus :scusthov: shyt, the fukk has jesus done for anyone?

Jesus isn't white number 1. and Christianity had a foothold in africa lon gbefore america was even founded. Why is some white cac talking about blacks :camby:
 

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Some MLK quotes for people to chew on :mjpls:...

MLK said:
The lessons which I was taught in Sunday School were quite in the fundamentalist line. None of my teachers ever doubted the infallibility of the Scriptures… I accepted Biblical studies uncritically until I was about twelve years old. But this uncritical attitude could not last long, for it was contrary to the very nature of my being… At the age of 13 I shocked my Sunday School class bydenying the bodily resurrection of Jesus. From the age of thirteen on doubts began to spring forth unrelentingly.


MLK said:
To begin with, the earliest written documents in the New Testament make no mention of the virgin birth. Moreover, the Gospel of Mark, the most primitive and authentic of the four, gives not the slightest suggestion of the virgin birth. The effort to justify this doctrine on the grounds that it was predicted by the prophet Isaiah is immediately eliminated, for all New Testament scholars agree that the word virgin is not found in the Hebrew original, but only in the Greek text which is a mistranslation of the Hebrew word for “young woman.

MLK said:
How I long now for that religious experience which Dr. Brightman so cogently speaks of throughout his book. It seems to be an experience, the lack of which life becomes dull and meaningless. As I reflect on the matter, however, I do remember moments that I have been awe awakened; there have been times that I have been carried out of myself by something greater than myself and to that something I gave myself. Has this great something been God? Maybe after all I have been religious for a number of years, and am now only becoming aware of it.
 

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Jesus isn't white number 1. and Christianity had a foothold in africa lon gbefore america was even founded. Why is some white cac talking about blacks :camby:
im speaking frankly on christianity in AMERICA breh. white jesus is everywhere

im not tryna patronize anyone, my bad if it came off like that
 

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lol and whites haven't 'sold' atheism to blacks? The first atheists on the net I knew of were angry, bitter white nerds. The typical atheists held in high esteem such as Hawkins, Maher and their ilk are for the most part white. What have white atheists done for blacks? Maybe we need to go check out Margaret Sanger and her "Negro Project" and the utilization of abortion as a tool to limit the black population. Let's take a gander at a fairly recent news article:
:why: breh everyone is fukkin born an atheist/agnostic. atheism doesnt 'do' anything for anybody, its the rejection of harmful and conflicting belief systems that have ZERO tangible positive benefits
 
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