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So I guess that laws that work intensely against men's interests, the fact that feminists push laws like this, and the fact that outside of a few feminists in the ivory tower making some half-assed noise about it isn't enough to qualify that number in an off-the-cuff internet comment? 'kay.

No mofo. It is not enough. Find some stats. You can't just throw random numbers around and think people will accept them as legit. You want to talk about sources; well then cite some sources to quanitfy that otherwise you are just continuing to talk out the side of your neck.

You can go and find information about opposing views and the fact that liberal feminism is just as strong as radical feminism; however, you refuse to do so becaue you are happy being wrong and ignorant. Multiple people have told you that you are wrong and why, but you refuse to even research to see why. Stay in ignorance.
 
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If you're getting this hung up on usage of the term "only" as opposed to the term mostly (as in 92-99%) in a sociopolitical climate where it wouldn't have made a difference whether which word would apply literally, it's a sign that you've lost the argument. But that's been your MO this whole time: forego the fact that feminism is based around hating men, doesn't help men and actively legislates for things that hurt men, while getting hung up on inconsequential details like not being quoted properly and trying to make equivalencies of movements with drastically different histories and bases for starting.

I cited tons of sources, all of which illustrate that feminism has actively done what I just said: spitefully work against men's interests. I've also pointed out that it's done nothing for men, so saying that it is a give and take isn't really a defense, either. Now these things coupled with the leaders of the feminist movement being quoted as they have with their hateful statements about men, I can only safely conclude that feminism is about hating men.

:whoo:

Feminism is based around and about hating men? You're too smart to be this shortsighted. I hope you're trolling.
 

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No mofo. It is not enough. Find some stats. You can't just throw random numbers around and think people will accept them as legit. You want to talk about sources; well then cite some sources to quanitfy that otherwise you are just continuing to talk out the side of your neck.

You can go and find information about opposing views and the fact that liberal feminism is just as strong as radical feminism; however, you refuse to do so becaue you are happy being wrong and ignorant. Multiple people have told you that you are wrong and why, but you refuse to even research to see why. Stay in ignorance.

Okay, I guess that quotes and laws and cultural precedent isn't enough for you. Far be it for me to ask you to provide anything to support your contentions aside from some ivory tower feminists that simply insist that they don't hate men.
 

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Feminism is based around and about hating men? You're too smart to be this shortsighted. I hope you're trolling.

:yeshrug: Read the thread. It's pretty closed minded to assume that anyone who disagrees with you is just stupid.
 

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:yeshrug: Read the thread. It's pretty closed minded to assume that anyone who disagrees with you is just stupid.

How do you read feminist literature (assuming you have, written by actual feminist scholars and not jacked-up blog posts by god knows who) and come to the conclusion that feminism is based on hating men? That's outright one of the craziest things I've ever read ever.

How did it boil down to being about y'all? Because it's not. It never has been. It's not supposed to be.
 

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Okay, I guess that quotes and laws and cultural precedent isn't enough for you. Far be it for me to ask you to provide anything to support your contentions aside from some ivory tower feminists that simply insist that they don't hate men.

I DID give you sources that would give you the entire history and purpose of feminism from ALL of the perspectives. Which you probably aren't even going to explore.

You can't not say that 92% of feminism is about man hating and expect anyone to take you seriously. Listing 5-10 laws isn't 92%. Like someone else said, are you trolling?
 

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I DID give you sources that would give you the entire history and purpose of feminism from ALL of the perspectives. Which you probably aren't even going to explore.

You can't not say that 92% of feminism is about man hating and expect anyone to take you seriously. Listing 5-10 laws isn't 92%. Like someone else said, are you trolling?

Your sources included Dworkin, which supported my point feminism is rooted in man hating, and the other sources also supported my point that the lip service that they gave was pretty much meaningless. An off the cuff number in an internet statement is another inconsequential detail that isn't going to help you, no matter how much you decide to get hung up on it.
 

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Feminism when done right is something I can cosign but it's rarely executed correctly and every feminist defines him/herself differently.
 

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Your sources included Dworkin, which supported my point feminism is rooted in man hating, and the other sources also supported my point that the lip service that they gave was pretty much meaningless. An off the cuff number in an internet statement is another inconsequential detail that isn't going to help you, no matter how much you decide to get hung up on it.

The only reason that you know it includes Dworkin is because I told you. You are lying like hell if you are going to pretend that you ordered/found both of those book and read both of them in 3 days.

If you did are you ready to have an in depth discussion of both because I know what they say?
 

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The only reason that you know it includes Dworkin is because I told you. You are lying like hell if you are going to pretend that you ordered/found both of those book and read both of them in 3 days.

If you did are you ready to have an in depth discussion of both because I know what they say?

Why would I? You obviously didn't give anything I sourced any credit, saying that they were "just laws."
 
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