As Tech Booms, Workers Turn to Coding for Career Change

[duckbutta]

So @duckbutta that's why as a Developer you can't be a one trick pony. You have to know multiple languages. The reason this one young homie I knew couldn't find a job was because he only knew 3 languages. So he learned 2 more and then got a job.

If your project for Python or Java ended perhaps the same company has another need for a C++ app specialist or whatever. If you did good on the previous project I'm sure they'd rather hire someone they've worked with before if possible.

I would think having to know 5 programming languages just to get a job is a little bit much. To get a top tier programming job that pays at the top of the field, then yeah 5 would probably be the minimum. But 5 just to get any ol crummy software development job? Seems like something is wrong...

 

[Pyrexcup]

I would think having to know 5 programming languages just to get a job is a little bit much. To get a top tier programming job that pays at the top of the field, then yeah 5 would probably be the minimum. But 5 just to get any ol crummy software development job? Seems like something is wrong...

sounds like his friends is not actually good. Which why i said coding is not as easy as people think, now that coding can even be outsourced to Indians you have to be more than a code monkey

 

[Apollo Creed]

Programmer jobs will just get outsourced like factory gigs, lotta companies already outsource the programming side of things since its pretty much 1+1 = 2, even state side go to an IT company and you see a ton of underpaid H1B contractors.

 

[You Win Perfect]

coding is not as easy as people think

ive never heard anybody say they think its easy.....

 

[Ethnic Vagina Finder]

So they trying to make coding like IT. But nah. That shyt is not easy and it's very tedious. Unless you have a knack for it or actually enjoy doing it, don't bother. I hate how these articles come off as get rich quick. And they want to used programming as an example.

 

[kevm3]

So they trying to make coding like IT. But nah. That shyt is not easy and it's very tedious. Unless you have a knack for it or actually enjoy doing it, don't bother. I hate how these articles come off as get rich quick. And they want to used programming as an example.

I agree that you have to have at least some desire to want to do it. It's not something you're going to just jump in and do by studying 30 minutes a day in your free time. It's something you really got to spend time on. The guys getting jobs as programmers who didn't go to college are the same ones who could have went through a computer science course, but they just had such a passion that they learned everything on their own and developed a portfolio. With that same level of passion and dedication, you can pretty much get a degree in whatever other field.

It's not to discourage anyone from joining, but if you read the article posted above, a lot of venture capitalists see 'coding schools' as something profitable enough that they want to invest in it. What does that tell you? They see it as a scheme to make money. People do get nice jobs outside of the coding school, but it's not just anyone. Plus, if too many candidates get produced in these 'coding schools', that's going to make the wages tank due to an overabundance of labor... but then again, that will be at the lower tier. The top notch programmers will still be able to command huge salaries because they'll have to fix all the shoddy codebases.

Programming isn't something you enter without loving it because things change FAST. A few years ago, Javascript was looked at as a 'toy language', and now it's one of the most popular. Angular.js, a Javascript framework, was just becoming very popular when the Angular team decided to completely rewrite it for version 2.0, and it has no backwards compatibility with the old version. All of that time spent learning version 1.0 down the drain. In other words, someone who doesn't like programming and doesn't like learning new things will get left behind. You can't just coast on what you learned in college for decades.

This is not to discourage anyone, because if you love doing it, then come try it out. On the other hand, don't let educational hustlers scam you thinking it's some quick ticket gold mine to prosperity. Those who are really interested in it should look at this thread:

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/developer-programming-information-and-careers-thread.116488/

 

[newworldafro]

It doesn't tell you that a large portion of these "coding" jobs are temp with no chance to be permanent...

A quick glance internally at my job shows we currently have 476 job openings in the US for some sort of software application writing...

Looking at the first 120 results not one of them shyts last past 8 months...

Those "temp" jobs, are they paying 60K - 80K though??

ive never heard anybody say they think its easy.....

So explain what is hard about it?

 

[newarkhiphop]

It / coders at my gov job jus got a 38‰ raise this year by comparison I got a 2%

 

[duckbutta]

Those "temp" jobs, are they paying 60K - 80K though??



So explain what is hard about it?

Does it matter if after 240 days you have to find another job that may or may not pay you that much?

 

[newworldafro]

Does it matter if after 240 days you have to find another job that may or may not pay you that much?

I mean I understand the wonders of job stability, financially and mentally. I admit the job application process is not exciting, so I get what you saying.

 

[notwhoiusedtobe]

The claims these schools make are, but I'm scheduled to start web dev bootcamp in a month, got a full scholarship
I also just got called in for a tech-ish gig at a startup, worked last week and by the end of next week they'll make me an offer...or not. They listed a salary range of 40k to 80k, though I'm not sure what benefits they're offering besides beer, chill schedule and no dress code.
I'm going to have to turn them down either way, since I can't work for 3 months while doing the bootcamp Am I crazy ya'll?


@Brady Hoke's Artery have you started with Hack Reactor yet? How's the work so far? I know it's remote, but do they also make it so you can't work?

@Camile.Bidan what do customer support/account management/sales/operations salaries look like in the Bay Area?

 

[newworldafro]

The claims these schools make are, but I'm scheduled to start web dev bootcamp in a month, got a full scholarship
I also just got called in for a tech-ish gig at a startup, worked last week and by the end of next week they'll make me an offer...or not. They listed a salary range of 40k to 80k, though I'm not sure what benefits they're offering besides beer, chill schedule and no dress code.
I'm going to have to turn them down either way, since I can't work for 3 months while doing the bootcamp Am I crazy ya'll?


@Brady Hoke's Artery have you started with Hack Reactor yet? How's the work so far? I know it's remote, but do they also make it so you can't work?

@Camile.Bidan what do customer support/account management/sales/operations salaries look like in the Bay Area?

Do you already have some coding ackground and whatare you going to the bootcamp for?

 

[notwhoiusedtobe]

Do you already have some coding ackground and are you going to the bootcamp for?

Nope. I mean I've messed with HTML/CSS to code/design things before, but that was mostly trial and error. I haven't formally studied any languages...except maybe C++ waaaay back in high school.

 

[Ethnic Vagina Finder]

I hate how this is being portrayed as some get rich quick scheme. The only ones that will be getting rich are the schools.

 

[Apollo Creed]

I hate how this is being portrayed as some get rich quick scheme. The only ones that will be getting rich are the schools.

lol all you see people say is "learn to codE" "go to school for IT", "go to school for stem". lol
Folks fail to realize most people can't make it through these programs, its not as simple as "learning code", you have to have a certain mindset to be good at it, etc.