Asian-Americans joining the civil rights fight
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I think they want to achieve the same success and habits, especially when they are held to the same model minority standards, but they don't have the resources and practices (both social and financial) to carry that out.
The groups you listed were allowed in the U.S. through an immigration filter that started in the 1960s - only allowed if they already had higher educational or specialized degrees and skills or were family members of someone who did. That is the basis of the model minority stereotype, it was created artificially as a cultural wedge by a journalist as a response to Black activism in the 1960s, and not actual Pan Asian Am success. It wasn't even based on the overall Asian Am population, only the Japanese in one city. After 1965, the Asian cream of the crop (and their family culture of success) in their countries were allowed here, and they raised their kids accordingly. These very same kids now have one of the highest suicide rates in the country. You see that economic success is much different for refugees (even in the groups you listed) or pacific islanders who had their land raided and bombed by Americans.
What you and the journalist who created this false stereotype fail to realize is the long history of Asian Americans being demonized by white folks in the U.S. White folks will push and shove them into Chinatowns, talk about their drug dens, laziness, bad business practices, prostitution and how to save the white woman from them at one point, and then turn around and try to paint another picture of them as "quiet success" when you need to oppress another group who is organizing. Divide and conquer and whatnot.
The key to success is education and hard work for whites.
The key to success for everyone else is education,hard work, overcoming odds for your whole family, hood, and ethnic group, finding appropriate mentors, given additional insight, becoming the transitional character of your family and stepping away from their habits while having your loyalty questioned and much more.
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I refuse to watch Clint Eastwood. But I do volunteer with youth groups of color in low income communities - the staff know how to reach out to Blacks and Latinos, but don't quite understand how divided the Pan Asian Am community is in Houston, and how their reach and needs are different.
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I volunteer with high needs youth of color, but most of the Asian Am population in this group are of Southeast Asian descent due to the demographics of Houston. The Pacific Islander population is not as deep in Houston as it is in Dallas, and most of them live in the burbs instead of within the city.
I think they want to achieve the same success and habits, especially when they are held to the same model minority standards, but they don't have the resources and practices (both social and financial) to carry that out.
The groups you listed were allowed in the U.S. through an immigration filter that started in the 1960s - only allowed if they already had higher educational or specialized degrees and skills or were family members of someone who did. That is the basis of the model minority stereotype, it was created artificially as a cultural wedge by a journalist as a response to Black activism in the 1960s, and not actual Pan Asian Am success. It wasn't even based on the overall Asian Am population, only the Japanese in one city. After 1965, the Asian cream of the crop (and their family culture of success) in their countries were allowed here, and they raised their kids accordingly. These very same kids now have one of the highest suicide rates in the country. You see that economic success is much different for refugees (even in the groups you listed) or pacific islanders who had their land raided and bombed by Americans.
What you and the journalist who created this false stereotype fail to realize is the long history of Asian Americans being demonized by white folks in the U.S. White folks will push and shove them into Chinatowns, talk about their drug dens, laziness, bad business practices, prostitution and how to save the white woman from them at one point, and then turn around and try to paint another picture of them as "quiet success" when you need to oppress another group who is organizing. Divide and conquer and whatnot.
The key to success is education and hard work for whites.
The key to success for everyone else is education,hard work, overcoming odds for your whole family, hood, and ethnic group, finding appropriate mentors, given additional insight, becoming the transitional character of your family and stepping away from their habits while having your loyalty questioned and much more.
I am not quite sure what ads from 80 years ago for WW2 war bonds have to do with the success of Asians in America today. And I really don't know anyone who says Asians are lazy or prostitutes or operate drug dens. I honestly have no idea what the hell you are talking about.
Anyways, the idea of Asians as a model minority is not a myth (not sure what some journalist has to do with anything). The fact is that in America, Asians are the BEST EDUCATED and WEALTHIEST of all racial groups, INCLUDING WHITE PEOPLE. Again those are facts not myths. That information is a very inconvenient truth for a lot of left wingers who try to peddle the lie that America is an evil, racist country bent on oppressing anyone who isn't white. Liberals usually become very angry when someone brings up these facts.
You are right that some Asians groups like the Hmong or Laotians are not doing as well as Chinese or Koreans. But that is not a matter of race. Like you said, those groups are coming to this country poorer and less educated than most Chinese, Koreans, etc. However that shouldn't be an indictment on America. The only thing this country owes them is the freedom and opportunity to better themselves. It is up to Hmong, Laotians, to work hard and educate themselves and embrace the opportunities that Chinese, Koreans, etc already have.
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The ads go to show that America has a history of vilifying and using different groups of color in conflicting ways as it benefits white people. The descriptions of laziness and prostitution are used to describe Chinatowns historically and still today, it doesn't matter if you haven't heard of it in your white coc00n. The journalist coined the MM term based on inaccurate data.
The fact is that SOME Asian Americans are the best educated, just like some whites and some blacks are too. There is a very large population of Chinese immigrants, both undocumented and documented, who still work much of the sweatshops in California today. Talk to anyone who works in education in the San Francisco/Bay Area, there are a lot of programs to get poor Chinese Am kids into college but they don't have the basic application and essay skills. Houston and Dallas have problems with Chinese and Vietnamese gangs.
White America has a long history of oppression of people of color, including Asians,and benefits greatly from the oppression. The Hmong and Laotians can't really just pull themselves up by the bootstraps when they have been displaced to random Midwest states with little to no English immersion programs, placed in isolated housing, arent given given career coaching or opportunities, and have to master standardized testing in a country they have only been in for a short time. They aren't given the same opportunities that you think everyone else is given, simply because you are so used to seeing white people have an equal starting point as each other.
The fact is that SOME Asian Americans are the best educated, just like some whites and some blacks are too. There is a very large population of Chinese immigrants, both undocumented and documented, who still work much of the sweatshops in California today. Talk to anyone who works in education in the San Francisco/Bay Area, there are a lot of programs to get poor Chinese Am kids into college but they don't have the basic application and essay skills. Houston and Dallas have problems with Chinese and Vietnamese gangs.
White America has a long history of oppression of people of color, including Asians,and benefits greatly from the oppression. The Hmong and Laotians can't really just pull themselves up by the bootstraps when they have been displaced to random Midwest states with little to no English immersion programs, placed in isolated housing, arent given given career coaching or opportunities, and have to master standardized testing in a country they have only been in for a short time. They aren't given the same opportunities that you think everyone else is given, simply because you are so used to seeing white people have an equal starting point as each other.