Asian Parents really be Ethering their own seeds

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It’s about the work..... being smart or naturally gifted ain’t worth shyt if you have zero or little work ethic.....
Do you have to continually deny affection, acknowledgement and respect to your child, even once he reaches the goal you set for him, for him to develop work ethic?
 
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I believe there are healthier alternatives that do lead to academically competitive children without stifling their other potentials (creativity, emotional expression and management, communication, love...). Knowing they exist, I don't see any reason to favor methods that involve the "ethering of children".

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Obviously this is a healthy alternative... Proof is in the pudding.... Looks like a lot of y’all never had your grandparents in ya lives.... Black Grandparents didn’t bar the curb..... probably not as etherous as Asians...... but blunt/harsh they could be when it came to criticism..... Cold world out here.... You can’t be babied and coddled 24/7.... It’s why we got the product we got now that’s coming up.....
 

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I don’t disagree with this style of parenting at all. Too many fukking mediocre people walking around thinking they’re brilliant. Children need to actually accomplish something before they’re praised, otherwise whatever self esteem that’s artificially been built will get crushed by the real world.

my little sister and I got into an argument over this. Her overinflated ego self started bragging saying she was good at everything she did and I told her all that means is she needs to challenge herself more. Too many kids grow up thinking they can do whatever they set their minds to, but that simply isn’t true.
 

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Which is a fine goal to have and they seem to have some results in that regard.

But the article only compares lax parenting, which doesn't achieve that goal, and the stereotypical Asian degrading one, which gets better academic results accompanied with poorer mental health.

I believe there are healthier alternatives that do lead to academically competitive children without stifling their other potentials (creativity, emotional expression and management, communication, love...). Knowing they exist, I don't see any reason to favor methods that involve the "ethering of children".
It works for them.

The Black kids who I grew up with had parents with high standards and expectations. It worked out for us.

Not once have I read any of these articles thinking that some other group's methods are something to emulate. People I knew were from different ethnic groups, so I never saw academic success or parental pressure to succeed as being tied to ethnicity. I saw it as tied to individual household standards.

If what the author's parents did worked for her, great. She may temper their methods with love and encouragement when she raises her own children. But those high standards will still be there.
 
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Do you have to continually deny affection, acknowledgement and respect to your child, even once he reaches the goal you set for him, for him to develop work ethic?

I didn’t read the entire article.... are they doing that...? You’re saying that Asian parents never offer encouragement or affection.... Hell... saying you’re Asian not Bsian is motivational.... When I brought home straight As in elementary school, I would try to crack my Grandparents for money as a reward.... My Granddaddy looked me dead in my face and said why would I reward you for something you supposed to be doing... You smart enough to get good marks on your report card, so get em...
 

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I don’t disagree with this style of parenting at all. Too many fukking mediocre people walking around thinking they’re brilliant. Children need to actually accomplish something before they’re praised, otherwise whatever self esteem that’s artificially been built will get crushed by the real world.

my little sister and I got into an argument over this. Her overinflated ego self started bragging saying she was good at everything she did and I told her all that means is she needs to challenge herself more. Too many kids grow up thinking they can do whatever they set their minds to, but that simply isn’t true.
What does this have to do with emotionally fukking ur kids up to the point they can’t handle failure and lack empathy and simple social skills toward other people? U can be hard on ur kids without emotionally scarring them. But I guess black people the only ones who get shyt for being any sort of strict on their kids. While others get praised for it.
 

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I didn’t read the entire article.... are they doing that...? You’re saying that Asian parents never offer encouragement or affection.... Hell... saying you’re Asian not Bsian is motivational.... When I brought home straight As in elementary school, I would try to crack my Grandparents for money as a reward.... My Granddaddy looked me dead in my face and said why would I reward you for something you supposed to be doing... You smart enough to get good marks on your report card, so get em...
Why get a raise for excelling at your job? Why get promotions? Why get awards at award shows? fukk it all. Right? It’s all positive reinforcement. Simple logic. Not saying they had to PAY u. But that method could easily backfire on someone who is less emotionally intelligent as u. Lol
 

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What does this have to do with emotionally fukking ur kids up to the point they can’t handle failure and lack empathy and simple social skills toward other people? U can be hard on ur kids without emotionally scarring them. But I guess black people the only ones who get shyt for being any sort of strict on their kids. While others get praised for it.
I just want my kids to be financially productive. I could give a shyt less about anything else. Nonetheless, I don’t think raising your kids in a pressure cooker environment to encourage academic and professional success and mental health are mutually exclusive. These are just some weak ass asian kids overall in the article.
 

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I just want my kids to be financially productive. I could give a shyt less about anything else. Nonetheless, I don’t think raising your kids in a pressure cooker environment to encourage academic and professional success and mental health are mutually exclusive. These are just some weak ass asian kids overall in the article.
Yea. What is success to u? U just have a narrow view. Do u have children? Do u know how big suicide is in Asia? Especially when it comes to academic failure. Every kid is different. Just like every adult is. Some kids u gotta be harder on than others. Etc etc. if u can’t maneuver that. U will undoubtedly risk ur relationship with ur children in the future. If everyone thought like that. No one would have the small jobs that make it easier for u to do what u successfully do with comfort.
 

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I didn’t read the entire article.... are they doing that...? You’re saying that Asian parents never offer encouragement or affection.... Hell... saying you’re Asian not Bsian is motivational.... When I brought home straight As in elementary school, I would try to crack my Grandparents for money as a reward.... My Granddaddy looked me dead in my face and said why would I reward you for something you supposed to be doing... You smart enough to get good marks on your report card, so get em...

Why get a raise for excelling at your job? Why get promotions? Why get awards at award shows? fukk it all. Right? It’s all positive reinforcement. Simple logic. Not saying they had to PAY u. But that method could easily backfire on someone who is less emotionally intelligent as u. Lol


A mix of both is how I'm raising my daughter. Seems to be working well so far, but of course I'm biased haha
 
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