I feel you breh. That's the only logical choice. Nobody can explain how the ancient people of the world were able to map out the this force that's constantly expanding the universe. Some of these ancient tribe even made predicition that up until this day still come true. The dogons knew where the sirius b star was before modern scientist.
Atheist explain this...... /Debunking Atheistism with facts and science.
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Grativity is wrong! Gravity is a by product of this force along with everything in the universe. Explain to me how did ancien't people know where the sirius b star was before an invention a telescope. I'm listing sources none of you have listed any sources.What kind of answer did op expect?
squiddyB
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Never heard of this particular story, where did you learn of this?
Ineedmoney504
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ima grown man. Da fukk would I need to believe in something, u dudes are fukking weakWhat about all the other billion species that existed and are now extinct?Right?
It's amazing when you think about it. Everything we need to survive and thrive just happens to be here.
What a coincidence
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It's a numbers game.Right?
It's amazing when you think about it. Everything we need to survive and thrive just happens to be here.
What a coincidence
There's billions upon billions of stars in the universe, and a fair share of them have planets. You only need one of those planets to give fruit to intelligent life to have someone say "hey, what a coincidence that everything is just right for us to exist". It's not like the non-existent beings on the failed planets can chime in.
It's no more coincidental than someone winning the lottery, while hundreds of thousands of other guys get shyt.
Through a friend. Here's some sources
The Pale Fox written by two european scientist who study the dogon M. Griaule & G. Dieterlen
http://urbanartiphax.com/ebooks/files/the pale fox.pdf
Another source from Oxford university. Conversations With Ogotemmeli: An Introduction to Dogon Religious Ideas
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Originalgangsta317
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Oh God, here we go
Long and short: just because you cant explain why something works,this does not prove the existence of a god.
On the same token, just because there is no evidence, that does not mean the is not a god.
Facts: religions are made up and altered as time passes, so if there is a god/goddess, and even if there are more than one, us humans have no say in what he does or doesn't do. At least when someone says "there is no god" they dont need evidence, as there is nothing to say otherwise. Faith doesnt trump evidence, especially when your god and thousands of others were created during ages of extreme ignorance of how many things work.
If i had an enlightening dream tonight, woke up, and claimed a new god called Raspberry Scone spoke to me, brothas would call me crazy...but if other people believed me, and 200 years later our following goes from 20 men to 2 million, does that suddenly make it real? No, it makes it tradition.
Yes, there may be some otherworldly presence, no, you dont know how they work, if they give a fukk about humans, etc.
You believe in God or no?
No. I never really did, but i was brought up in the church so I always though, even as a little kid, that the was tradition rather than literal. Turns out, people really believe this stuff
You believe in God or no?
Or pretend they do
And im not atheist, but agnostic, so i wont say there is no god, but i wont say there is either.
Would be a nice surprise, though, cause for months i have been thinking about death, and what it would be like for there to be no existence when i pass.
No one explained how a ancient people like the dogon where able to discover the sirius b star before modern science. I listed sources and explained this infinite force with scientific fact. No one has refuted the facts yet.
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Yeah, we're talking about westerners stumbling upon supposedly previously un-encountered tribe of individuals and noting that their ancient histories mentions of sister stars to Sirius, that were properly observed using telescopes. This is argued to showcase the Dogons advanced astronomical knowledge as they couldn't have possibly known of the sister stars (Sirius has always been visible on the night sky, it can be seen with the naked eye.)
It's an interesting curiosity for sure, but a lot of doubt has been cast on the sheltered status of the tribe (if they've previously been contacted by westerners they could have learnt of Sirius sister stars, and then incorporated that into their ancient narratives - since their storytelling seems oral then it would appear that the information is hundreds of years old.) Or they figured out the twinkling phenomena of stars when they're obscured by other stars, and concluded that the stars was covered by another stars - therefore, two stars.
Or, they just guessed, that Sirius had sister stars, and then it turned out that there were sister stars; all while other tribes made other guesses that turned out to be invalidated. If you have hundreds, or thousands, of people making claims about astronomical matters then I wouldn't be surprise to see one or two stumble upon the truth. Unfortunately, it does not lend credence to whatever path they took to acquire said information, as we cannot trust that their methods would yield useful information for other matters. This is the issue with all non-empirical methods and approaches to ascertaining facts about the world around us: if it's not reliable, and predictable, then it's just as useful as any other guesswork.
"Science" (by which I refer to the overall scientific field and how it progresses, through hypothesis & theories that can be falsified) comes up on top again and again because it gives us shyt we can make use of. Your computer, modern medicine, economic systems and all the other modern luxuries are all the culmination of hundreds of years of work by researchers who have not been content with the answers given by faith or intuition.
If you want to manipulate the fabric of reality, you need to first understand it, and to understand it you need a system that is reliable - science.
Originalgangsta317
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No. I never really did, but i was brought up in the church so I always though, even as a little kid, that the was tradition rather than literal. Turns out, people really believe this stuff
And im not atheist, but agnostic, so i wont say there is no god, but i wont say there is either.
Would be a nice surprise, though, cause for months i have been thinking about death, and what it would be like for there to be no existence when i pass.
Same here fam,I'm just like you I won't say it's a god,but I won't say it isn't either, I do believe there is a higher power tho. But way too much fukked up shyt out here for me to 100% believe in a god,tricky subject.
And yea I'm not afraid if dying,just afraid if what comes after. Not knowing what happens after that is mind blowing
I was talking about @DrX moreso than to you.
And disputing what you said in the OP is difficult because you really didn't say anything, you danced around facts with purple prose. What is untrue is that every religion attributes that force, that is certainly untrue. Religions don't explicitly attribute physical forces to the works of their deities, and when they are (example: gravity) they are debunked.
Right?
It's amazing when you think about it. Everything we need to survive and thrive just happens to be here.
What a coincidence
You're using really, really trash deduction to come to these conclusions.
Just because something "is" doesn't mean it was created that way.
We're composed of the same matter that makes up the planet we live on, as well as the rest of the universe, ergo, the necessities of life can only be here, no where else.
People being able to have sex doesn't mean the world is perfect
The male and female body aren't made to "coexist together perfectly" in fact, our reproductive practices are much more inaccurate than other animal species on the planet. I don't even know how to respond to the third quote
You're not making real conclusions 
BaldingSoHard
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This is where the "facts and science" part ended.
Purple Pose? How? Everything I stated about the universe are documented facts. I didn't have to exaggerate or dance around anything. I just connected the dots. And you're wrong on the bold part. Take for example Islam. In the quranSura 24 - Al-Noor (MADINA) : Verse 35
Allah is the Light of the heavens and the earth. The Parable of His Light is as if there were a Niche and within it a Lamp: the Lamp enclosed in Glass: the glass as it were a brilliant star: Lit from a blessed Tree, an Olive, neither of the east nor of the west, whose oil is well-nigh luminous, though fire scarce touched it: Light upon Light! Allah doth guide whom He will to His Light: Allah doth set forth Parables for men: and Allah doth know all things. That corresponds perfectly with what was said in the op.
The heavens being the cosmos. Light being this force.
The Bible
Psalm 115:15
Verse Concepts
May you be blessed of the LORD, Maker of heaven and earth.
Isaiah 40:22
He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers. He stretches out the heavens like a canopy, and spreads them out like a tent to live in.
In chinese tranditional religion "chi" is energy that connects everything to the universe. The force previously described does that.
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