ATL breh's, Why do these new artist dikk ride gucci but act like jeezy doesn't exist?

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Son Jeezy sparked that shyt off to a damn near worldwide level that even enabled Gucci to do his thing the way he did in the first place. So how the fukk Gucci elevate anything more than Jeezy? Gucci arguably wouldnt have even seen the success he has without Jeezy. nikkas buggin and it goes to show how easy it is to rewrite history especially in this day and age.

Well, to put into perspective, T.I. is written out of that history in the same respect. A lot of people will not acknowledge what he did for Trap music becoming popular and point to Jeezy because they heard Jeezy first or liked his iteration of Trap music more than T.I.'s. Both T.I. and Jeezy diversified their sound where Gucci pretty much stayed making trap music. He tried his hand at it, but people weren't feeling the polished up Gucci making songs like "Spotlight" with Usher and "Gucci Time" with Swizz as much as they loved the trap god mixtapes series Gucci.
 

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Well, to put into perspective, T.I. is written out of that history in the same respect. A lot of people will not acknowledge what he did for Trap music becoming popular and point to Jeezy because they heard Jeezy first or liked his iteration of Trap music more than T.I.'s. Both T.I. and Jeezy diversified their sound where Gucci pretty much stayed making trap music. He tried his hand at it, but people weren't feeling the polished up Gucci making songs like "Spotlight" with Usher and "Gucci Time" with Swizz as much as they loved the trap god mixtapes series Gucci.
TI popularized the phrase but he wasn’t making trap music
He opened the door for others tho
 

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Gucci is an artist that real hiphop heads that are mostly consumed by 90s east coast rap bias dorks and white hiphop fansdon’t listen too

His niche fan base is southern black men

That recipe doesn’t get you to superstar level

This isn't true. Plenty of Southern artists blew off making street music that eschewed the East Coast sound and that they frowned upon.

Gucci doesn't sell records because he's essentially a mixtapes artist. His tapes go way harder than the retail. I rarely see any talk about any of Gucci's albums. It's the mixtapes that get love. It makes no sense for someone to pay for an inferior product when they are getting something more potent for free.
 

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TI popularized the phrase but he wasn’t making trap music
He opened the door for others tho

And you're rewriting history with that. If it wasn't for T.I., we wouldn't even be discussing Jeezy nor Gucci as trap rappers. Pull up a song from Jeezy pre T.I.'s Trap Muzik and listen to a Jeezy song that came after. The change in style is obvious and night and day. Gucci tried his hand at the sound back in the early 2000's, but didn't pop off until after T.I. Before T.I., trap music or rappers who rapped like T.I. and talked about what T.I. was talking about didn't pop off here. Cool Breeze and Witchdoctor were doing it and bricked. A lot of you don't even know who Ghetto Mafia or Kilo are and they had followings, but never went mainstream with it.
 

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And you're rewriting history with that. If it wasn't for T.I., we wouldn't even be discussing Jeezy nor Gucci as trap rappers. Pull up a song from Jeezy pre T.I.'s Trap Muzik and listen to a Jeezy song that came after. The change in style is obvious and night and day. Gucci tried his hand at the sound back in the early 2000's, but didn't pop off until after T.I. Before T.I., trap music or rappers who rapped like T.I. and talked about what T.I. was talking about didn't pop off here. Cool Breeze and Witchdoctor were doing it and bricked. A lot of you don't even know who Ghetto Mafia or Kilo are and they had followings, but never went mainstream with it.
I said he opened the door. I was talking about rappers and producers

Mainstream was not fukking with ATL on that level until TI
 

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I said he opened the door. I was talking about rappers and producers

Mainstream was not fukking with ATL on that level until TI
This is a lie too. Mainstream was fukking wit ATL before T.I. U had Luda and DTP. Youngbloodz. The whole crunk movement fam. Lets not even speak on OutKast. Was all before T.I really blew up. And they all sold more as well. T.I sales aint really get crazy till like his 3rd or 4th album. Trap Musik went Gold. shyt aint even go Plat until like 4 years after it dropped.
 

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This is a lie too. Mainstream was fukking wit ATL before T.I. U had Luda and DTP. Youngbloodz. The whole crunk movement fam. Lets not even speak on OutKast. Was all before T.I really blew up. And they all sold more as well. T.I sales aint really get crazy till like his 3rd or 4th album. Trap Musik went Gold. shyt aint even go Plat until like 4 years after it dropped.
Not the same thing at all
 

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It's almost sad that this generation doesn't embrace Jeezy like that.

I dont care what anyone says...I was there, Gucci was never as big as Jeezy was in '04-'05. He one of the handful of rappers I will say that really changed the direction of Hip Hop in the 00s. Thug Motivation 101 sent a seismic shift through the streets to the point everyone and they mama was bumping it.

But as the 00s came to a close when hipsters started getting more into Hip-Hop culture, they were championing Gucci Mane and began dikkridin him because of his antics, his nursery rhymes, and having a ice cream tattoo on his face.:francis:

Jeezy didn't get accepted by the hipster/culture vultures that are pretty much in control of Hip hop media now.

Jeezy not embracing the youth hardbody definitely played a major factor also. Gucci was still knee deep in the streets/underground while Jeezy was more into the industry and slowly making that transition into becoming a businessman.

Every ATL trap rapper with some buzz? Gucci linked up with quick and kept him cool in the eyes of the youth.

Gucci work ethic also makes him more visible to the public. This is a fast food adhd ass generation where nikkas will say a rapper fell off because he didn't put out an album or mixtape in 3 months:francis:
 

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Gucco didn't have high sales because he was the mixtape king and was the most burned artist alongside Boosie. If streaming was avaialable he'd be doing bigger numbers than Youngboy and them are doing now digitally.
Wiz Khalfas mixtapes are like 5 times bigger, still went plat:patrice:
Jeezy mixtapes as big on or two unknown even bigger, even the ones from before when Datpiff was just founded, still went plat :patrice:
Same with Weezy F, add a few digits after the x for him though :patrice:


Something is not adding up. If you are a fan, why would you download a mixtape but not get the album. Either it's cause the albums were trash, large portion of his perceived fanbase not real fans or enough or too many kids. I believe it's the two latter. I mean he did sell like 500k actual cds once at the peak of his buzz, it's not like he was non-existent.
 
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Wiz Khalfas mixtapes are like 5 times bigger, still went plat:patrice:
Jeezy mixtapes as big on or two unknown even bigger, even the ones from before when Datpiff was just founded, still went plat :patrice:
Same with Weezy F, add a few digits after the x for him though :patrice:


Something is not adding up. If you are a fan, why would you download a mixtape but not get the album. Either it's cause the albums were trash, large portion of his perceived fanbase not real fans or enough or too many kids. I believe it's the two latter. I mean he did sell like 500k actual cds once at the peak of his buzz, it's not like he was non-existent.
He talking about in the hood my baby. There’s no doubt Gucci was the mixtape King from 2007-till the end of 09. If you wasn’t there you wouldn’t understand.
 

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Yo to me Gucci aint blow up till Waka Flocka and its a party its a party song ....

:mjlol:


Do you hear these young nikkas music? It sounds just like the trash gucci was makin back in 08 :pachaha:

:comeon:






some of his most classic shyt came out in 08 stop it slime. just say you dont know shyt bout Gucci



but to answer the OP

Gucci a real Atlanta nikka you could have seen him anywhere in DeKalb County. He was the hood superstar. nikkas here still ride around bumping old Gucci. Every time im out I hear someone listening to some old Gucci. Plus like other said he really embraced younger artist unlike Jeezy.


Gucci is loved in every hood..went to Macon in Jeezy old hood and did a diss song



back when the eastside was the eastside




them 05-10 Primetime, Obsessions, Libra days :banderas:

ima southside nikka but everyone went to the eastside to party and catch Gucci back then
 
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