Jeezy brought it to more mainstream at one point but gucci’s take on trap music is far more influential on current rappers AND MAINSTREAM music than jeezy’s at the moment and thats facts. You cant tell me future, rae sremmurd, and the migos sound more like jeezy than gucci mane, cause that aint true at all.
ATL breh's, Why do these new artist dikk ride gucci but act like jeezy doesn't exist?
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Gucci has been around longer then everybody you named and has fans in the same age bracket and older.
SwagmundFreud
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I don’t think Gucci ever put out any album better than Jeezys first two
CanesMiamiLakers
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Idk but in Miami and broward we love Jeezy. Even though Gucci lives out here he can’t bring them out like Jeezy can.
chosenaledge13
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Prolly already been said but being from here and working with so many artists in the past 10 yrs, Gucci has always put on for the young artists, and every producer to come out of here is influenced by him/worked with him in some way. He ain't never been out of touch with the young kids coming up either, and they all wanna work with the producers that sprouted from what he was doing so it's just the way it is. I fukk with Jeezy too btw, but you can't name multiple producers/artists that pay homage in the same way they do with Gucci for putting them on
bc Jeezy made/makes Dope Dealer music which was trendy/hot in rap from around 98-2008
Gucci made/makes junkie music which is still trendy right now.
Even tho they came out around the same time....the youngsters look at Jeezy as a old head...kinda like Tip, while they view Wop as a current generation rapper
Gucci made/makes junkie music which is still trendy right now.
Even tho they came out around the same time....the youngsters look at Jeezy as a old head...kinda like Tip, while they view Wop as a current generation rapper
murksiderock
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•I think Gucci more relatable to the younger era, for reasons others have mentioned, but I don't know about realer. They both real, I always felt relatable to both but slightly more Jeezy on this side...
•the streets fukked with both, in NY, Cali, everywhere you could find people who fukked with both...
•Jeezy music is more relatable to a nikka who ever was a trafficker. I'm not into the phrases "plug" or kingpin and I'm not talking that level, but if you ever dealt on a high trafficking level, Jeezy shyt is for you. Gucci music reaches most street nikkas cause most nikkas not trafficking like that, most nikkas in the hood are robbing and hitting dummy licks and corner boys. That was Gucci so he was easier to identify with...
•Gucci has proven to be more savvy about music...
This is a great thread, by the way!
Gucci's more relevant to the evolution if modern hip hop because he was a bigger artist for longer and he connected with the generation after his in a way Jeezy didn't. Keep in mind, I'm more of a Jeezy guy. Jeezy's 2005 is one of the greatest one year runs in rap history and a bigger single year than Gucci ever had. I also think Trap Or Die and 101 are legendary in a way no single Gucci project ever touched. But let's be honest, once the promo and hype from 101 started fading (so we're into 2006 now), Jeezy started fading...
His second album was nowhere near as impactful, his features were largely unmemorable (besides the Everyday I'm Hustlin remix), and there was no gravitas to the CTE movement. He started off with stronger momentum than Gucci and couldn't sustain it. The Recession was a really strong comeback, but again he couldn't maintain momentum. He tended to disappear from public eye after his drops, most of his artists had no pull, etc. By 2010, Jeezy was done, which is remarkable given his GOAT-level entrance. He still dropped music this decade of course and had a handful of moments we fukked with, but he never meshed with this era...
His mixtape/underground rise from 2002-2004 is legendary too. This nikka built himself from basically a chitlin circuit of southern hole in the walls in SC, GA, FL, Bama. Rinsed and repeated for two years, in a part of the US nobody checking for on a hip hop tip, and word of mouth built him. That shyt is legendary...Jeezy is a legend in his own right, but mostly for his rise. Outside of that his sound is largely forgettable...
The point everyone misses
Why didn't Gucci's influence translate on the charts? Jeezy sold very consistently
murksiderock
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By contrast, Gucci was a trash rapper from jump who got better with age and experience. I'll never forget first hearing dude in '05 and thinking he was garbage. So Icy was dope but his voice and his other songs were trash...
Then when you account for how his first single basically coincided with Jeezy's explosion, he was starting from behind. I will say this, though:
I always noticed a cult following with Gucci, always, even when he wasn't as popular as Jeezy. I turned 16 in summer 2005 and moved to Fayetteville, NC to be with family, and that's when I first heard of Gucci (I first saw Air Forces on Rap City or some BET show around Nov/Dec 2004 so i was already aware of Jeezy)...
There was always a contingent of people who fukked with Gucci. I didn't get it, but in retrospect I think Gucci was always easier to touch. I remember he wore glasses early on and this girl told me I looked like him lol...
Gucci had a bunch of legal trouble and his career was almost over before it started. The Jeezy beef definitely helped him more than it helped Jeezy's career. And when Gucci came back in '07 he was still ass to me, but he was different...
His 2008-2010 run elevated him, tape after tape of heat, and outside of Wayne, you can make the argument Gucci was the biggest southern rapper at the time and a borderline Top 5 rapper in that stretch. The work ethic was something we never saw Jeezy do after his rise, the run of consistent heat was something Jeezy didn't have, etc. To be fair, alot of Gucci shyt was saturated and sounded the same, but he had plenty of classics...
I honestly think Guc was destined for bigger stardom but by 2010-2011 he was junkie'd out. Which again made him more appealing to the masses cause alota nikkas is junkies. Gucci was more marketable, had a more cohesive roster than CTE and better music, and birthed a hot new artist in Waka that Jeezy never had...
Gucci's late 00s sound was the blueprint for the present hip hop sound. This isn't to say Jeezy, Tip, Troy, or anyone else didn't lay the foundation, because they all did, but Gucci had the benefit if timing and particularly a crossover appeal that Jeezy and Troy never had. He was more marketable...
Hence, why so many of the youngsters cited him as an influence. And yeah, he connected with the youth rather than distancing himself....
Then when you account for how his first single basically coincided with Jeezy's explosion, he was starting from behind. I will say this, though:
I always noticed a cult following with Gucci, always, even when he wasn't as popular as Jeezy. I turned 16 in summer 2005 and moved to Fayetteville, NC to be with family, and that's when I first heard of Gucci (I first saw Air Forces on Rap City or some BET show around Nov/Dec 2004 so i was already aware of Jeezy)...
There was always a contingent of people who fukked with Gucci. I didn't get it, but in retrospect I think Gucci was always easier to touch. I remember he wore glasses early on and this girl told me I looked like him lol...
Gucci had a bunch of legal trouble and his career was almost over before it started. The Jeezy beef definitely helped him more than it helped Jeezy's career. And when Gucci came back in '07 he was still ass to me, but he was different...
His 2008-2010 run elevated him, tape after tape of heat, and outside of Wayne, you can make the argument Gucci was the biggest southern rapper at the time and a borderline Top 5 rapper in that stretch. The work ethic was something we never saw Jeezy do after his rise, the run of consistent heat was something Jeezy didn't have, etc. To be fair, alot of Gucci shyt was saturated and sounded the same, but he had plenty of classics...
I honestly think Guc was destined for bigger stardom but by 2010-2011 he was junkie'd out. Which again made him more appealing to the masses cause alota nikkas is junkies. Gucci was more marketable, had a more cohesive roster than CTE and better music, and birthed a hot new artist in Waka that Jeezy never had...
Gucci's late 00s sound was the blueprint for the present hip hop sound. This isn't to say Jeezy, Tip, Troy, or anyone else didn't lay the foundation, because they all did, but Gucci had the benefit if timing and particularly a crossover appeal that Jeezy and Troy never had. He was more marketable...
Hence, why so many of the youngsters cited him as an influence. And yeah, he connected with the youth rather than distancing himself....
murksiderock
Superstar
At least part of it is oversaturation. Gucci released 19 tapes and 3 albums from 2008-2010. This was his hottest period, he followed the Wayne model of flooding the market with your music, but this was excessive. Too much filler, some were basically regurgitations. The people fukked with Gucci but there was so much Gucci floating around it deincentivized the value of buying an actual album...
CanesMiamiLakers
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I think Gucci wants to be in the industry more so than Jeezy. If we go mixtapes Jeezy has the bigger ones if we go albums Jeezy has the biggest ones. I fw both but Jeezy took trap music to a level that allowed Gucci and these new artist to make the music they make. Like others have said though Gucci made it a point to make fun turn up music while Jeezy always tried to put substance in his.
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Jeezy was the foundation. Like I said. Gucci took it and ran wit it but he wouldnt have been able to do that without Jeezy. ATL nikkas be on some dikkridin shyt anyway. I seen nikkas turn on Luda when T.I got hot. Turn on Jeezy when Gucci started poppin. Etc etc. nikkas will claim a nikka. And when another nikka come along act like the first nikka aint shyt. And disregard the shyt the first nikka did for the city. This is what happened to Jeezy. shyt. I remember when I used to go down south to visit my fam and speak on Outkast and everybody would always show Big Boi love. I seen more love for Big Boi than Andre 3K honestly. I remember arguing wit nikkas about how nice 3K was on the mic. The nikka 3K got all this hype in the mid 00s and now some of them same people act like Big Boi aint nowhere fukkin wit 3K. Which is why I always try to rep for Big Boi and wont let nikkas rewrite history like he wasnt shyt to the group.
The Connoisseurs
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Lol ya’ll too concentrated on record label albums let’s be honest since the 2000’s only
a handful of record label albums Shifted the game
Blueprint
GRDT
College dropout
TM101
Graduation
808’s
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I can name you street tapes that started movements and waves with massive receptions.
* (really this shouldn’t count it’s really mixtape weezy’s run that shifted things just like wop and others )
a handful of record label albums Shifted the game
Blueprint
GRDT
College dropout
TM101
Graduation
808’s
Carter 3*
Take care
I can name you street tapes that started movements and waves with massive receptions.
* (really this shouldn’t count it’s really mixtape weezy’s run that shifted things just like wop and others )