Austin Texas Kicks out Uber Lyft ..and predictably DWI and Crashes rise

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:francis: Crony capitalism at work...keeping you safe...

The taxi industry pushed prop one to mandate fingerprinting and background checks for all uber drivers..that is what happens when politicians are purchased to protect a dysfunctional incumbent industry with shoddy customer service from a better product.

The irony is the fingerprinting would have cost the taxpayer millions slowed down the process of getting drivers and likely not have been as effective as Ubers own background checks


A World Without Uber: Dispatches From Austin
What was life like before Uber and Lyft? Austin, Texas is finding out the hard way
Austin, Texas has become a ridesharing wasteland. One month ago, Uber and Lyft left the city, abandoning their 10,000 drivers—and leaving the city’s residents in a state of transportation chaos.

“Nobody really thought this was actually going to happen,” said driver Sarah Cooper, who spoke to Vocativ on a stormy afternoon in Texas. “There’s too much to lose in Austin, everybody said.” Cooper had been providing about 150 rides a week between Lyft and Uber before they left.

It’s been a month since Austinites narrowly voted down Proposition 1, which means rideshare drivers must now be subjected to a fingerprint-based background check in order to work for a ridesharing company. The defeat prompted the two Silicon Valley-based companies to leave Austin on May 9.

In their place, they left a patchwork of rogue Facebook groups, drivers struggling to find rides, bartenders terrified to over serve, and stranded drunks trying to get home.
On May 9, 10,000 Uber drivers effectively lost their jobs. So they did what anyone in 2016 does, they turned to Facebook to mobilize—and soon enough the passengers followed. In the month since Proposition 1, a “Request A Ride” group has more than 35,000 members and another underground page contains another 7,000 members.

The new system works like this: A prospective rider posts their pickup location within the group and within minutes several drivers usually comment with their contact information and screenshot of their Uber and/or Lyft profile. From there, the passenger and chosen driver negotiate a trip price privately. Forms of payment vary from driver to driver, but most people pay with cash, or with mobile apps Venmo, Square, or Paypal.
There have already been people who were not previously Uber or Lyft drivers just hopping on the page and giving rides,” said Cooper, who now serves as a driver in the Facebook group. “Who knows who they are? Who knows if they’re a felon or not?”There’s a few immediate red flags about this new Facebook-driven system. First and foremost, there’s the obvious concern of hundreds of people posting their exact locations and destinations to a group of 35,000 other locals. Equally alarming, there’s no way of knowing who’s actually picking you up. Anyone can join the group, make a Facebook profile, and photoshop a fake Uber profile to their liking.

Cooper said she saw a passenger in the group reporting a driver who had been drinking. The group’s admins immediately banned the accused drunk driver, “but still, one is too many,” she says.

Drivers assume the same risks, of course. Without a passenger rating system, drivers are essentially going off of a Facebook profile, which again, can be easily faked.
“With Uber and Lyft, you had to have a credit card. So that helped weed out some of the more dangerous people you’d run into,” Cooper, a former software developer, said.


The absence of ridesharing insurance is another safeguard that drivers miss. Uber and Lyft both charged passengers if they damaged the vehicle. Under the current system, that’s all gone. “For example if somebody vomits in your car, which is a very true, high-risk scenario—especially with college students—Uber gave you a cleaning fee,” Cooper said. “Now you just hope and pray that person will help clean it up or give you extra money.”

From the passenger perspective, the ease of summoning a ride nearby is mostly gone. Instead of hailing the closest cars, you’re posting to drivers all around the city.

A desperate driver could say she’s around the corner, even if she’s actually across town.

“The closest driver isn’t dispatched anymore, it’s really the driver who’s sitting on Facebook,” Morgan Taylor, a former Uber passenger said. “It’s great we have this option right now, but it’s not reliable.”

So has this system worked for former Uber and Lyft drivers, financially? Cooper says that while the volume of rides have drastically decreased, earnings have remained about the same thanks to passenger generosity and the realization that drivers are going farther out of their way than they used to. Another driver recently told Bloomberg he’s making “stripper money” through the group.

“The community as a whole has been very receptive to us. For a ride that would cost $6 or $8 on Uber, people were giving us $20 just because they were so thrilled to have a ride,” Cooper said.

Even more troubling than the late-night pedestrian concern is Austin’s rampant drunk driving problem—last year the city had more than 5,800 DWI arrests, according to police data. Back in December the city’s Police Chief Art Acevedo expressed concern for how an Uberless Austin would affect the road safety. “If we take away the (ride-hailing firms) here and in other cities, it definitely will impact DWI,” he said. “There’s no doubt about it.”


Recent data obtained from the Austin Police Department would seem to support Acevedo’s narrative. In the first three week after Uber and Lyft left Austin, DWI arrests were up 7.5 percent over the same time last year. City police made 359 DWI arrests from May 9, 2016 (the day Uber and Lyft shut down) to May 31, 2016. During that same period in 2015, Austin police made 334 DWI arrests. Whether ridesharing services actually affect the rate of drunk driving in cities remains up for debate. Some studies cite a drastic drop off in DWIs, while others claim there’s no correlation between the two at all. Regardless, local Austin drivers say they’ve seen more alarming behavior downtown than ever before.

“You can literally hear people leaving the bars saying ‘just forget it, I’ll drive, it’s not that far,’” she said of the bar crowd frustrated by the late-night transportation limitations.

With the limited number of ways to get home, Morgan Taylor, who works as a bartender, says the situation has not only caused a noticeable drop in sales but also changed the way she serves her customers. Should someone leave her bar, decide to drive drunk, and cause an accident, the Texas Beverage Code holds both the bar and individual bartenders responsible in civil suits.

“I used to say ‘hey are you taking an Uber or Lyft home?’ now it’s just three drinks and ‘I’m sorry I have to cut you off.’”
There’s this confusion [on the Facebook page] of what’s the standard on Arcade City,” said Nick Fowler, a longtime Uber driver who recognizes that its founder, entrepreneur Christopher David, is doing his best to get its app out quickly. “The riders aren’t very informed about the page and it’s making it difficult for drivers to service their requests.”

When the Arcade City app does eventually launch, it’ll give drivers the option to undergo an Austin-mandated fingerprint screening and attach it to their profile. “Our drivers are entrepreneurs, free to make their own choices about how they want to comply (or not) with government regulations,” the company states on its website. “Some of our drivers want to get fingerprinted and comply with the Austin regulations. Some do not. We respect their choices.” Arcade City will face a decision early next year though, when rideshare companies are forced to fall in line with the new ordinance on Feb. 1, 2017.

On the other hand, other apps like Fare, Fasten, and GetMe are more than happy to comply with the new fingerprinting policy. The problem, Fowler says, is that the slow registration process has prevented companies from properly scaling their driver force.

I respect what these other apps are doing but they cannot onboard fast enough because of the fingerprint background check,” he said. “You’re seeing these apps struggle because you can’t onboard 10,000 drivers since the city has to be involved in these checks.”


:smugfavre: A big hand for Liberals...Hard at work protecting you from efficiency,choice and low prices with onerous regulations...where would we be without them?
 

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Believe or not Austin is more conservative than liberal. This was a push by business to have Uber out of Austin. They tried it in DFW area but City of Dallas and Dallas County is headed by liberals and they said naw Uber can operate here. The taxi industry is mainly fighting against Uber and other providers. This new technology and app industry is changing how old business models conducts business.

I dont get it. Texas promotes liquor, beer, and bbq everyday, all day. Why wouldnt u give citizens that options to make it home safe.
 

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Believe or not Austin is more conservative than liberal. This was a push by business to have Uber out of Austin. They tried it in DFW area but City of Dallas and Dallas County is headed by liberals and they said naw Uber can operate here. The taxi industry is mainly fighting against Uber and other providers. This new technology and app industry is changing how old business models conducts business.

I dont get it. Texas promotes liquor, beer, and bbq everyday, all day. Why wouldnt u give citizens that options to make it home safe.

The mayor is a democrat though if im not mistaken
 

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:francis: Crony capitalism at work...keeping you safe...

The taxi industry pushed prop one to mandate fingerprinting and background checks for all uber drivers..that is what happens when politicians are purchased to protect a dysfunctional incumbent industry with shoddy customer service from a better product.

The irony is the fingerprinting would have cost the taxpayer millions slowed down the process of getting drivers and likely not have been as effective as Ubers own background checks





:smugfavre: A big hand for Liberals...Hard at work protecting you from efficiency,choice and low prices with onerous regulations...where would we be without them?
:mjlol: trying to blame this on liberal smh
 

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Ubers background check is a joke. I have a buddy who got a job with them two months after he got out of federal for narcotics trafficking. :russ:
:sas2: Sounds like ya boy cut a deal....CIs get their records whitewashed.......just dont do anything illegal around him

Realistically its not like the citys overwhelmed bureaucracy would do any better

Austin's Fingerprint Regime For Uber & Lyft Will Harm Minority Drivers
Lost in the public debate was a real discussion of the central issue: the often life-altering consequences of relying on the FBI fingerprint database. It is important to understand why Uber and Lyft fought so hard on the issue, and realize the ramifications of fingerprint requirements on the future of ridesharing in the United States.


To begin with, the fingerprinting ordinance is a solution in search of a problem. The companies have been operating safely and successfully in Austin using their own extensive background checks, which are often more stringent than those required of traditional taxis. Not to mention the fact that users are provided the name, photo, and ranking of their driver, the license plate number of the vehicle, and real time GPS tracking which can be shared with friends and family.

The ordinance imposed by the city council mandates that all 10,000-plus drivers, and all future applicants, “provide a complete set of fingerprints” and “any applicable fee” and waiver forms to a city-approved entity. The waiver forms authorize the government to send the fingerprints to the FBI. The FBI database search results then make their way back to the city, which uses the information “to determine whether an individual is prohibited from driving for a TNC.”
The sheer size of the FBI database is staggering. As reported by the Wall Street Journal in 2014:

Over the past 20 years, authorities have made more than a quarter of a billion arrests, the Federal Bureau of Investigation estimates. As a result, the FBI currently has 77.7 million individuals on file in its master criminal database—or nearly one out of every three American adults.

Between 10,000 and 12,000 new names are added each day.

The accuracy of the database can be described as abysmal. Local governments often fail to submit follow-up information after an arrest. “50 percent of the FBI’s records fail to include information on the final disposition of the case. The missing information is frequently beneficial to job seekers,” according to a 2013 report from the National Employment Law Project.
 

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:sas2: Sounds like ya boy cut a deal....CIs get their records whitewashed.......just dont do anything illegal around him

Realistically its not like the citys overwhelmed bureaucracy would do any better

Austin's Fingerprint Regime For Uber & Lyft Will Harm Minority Drivers

Lol there was no deal to cut. He got indicted by the feds for trafficking weed, steroids, and pain pills. Even if he wanted to talk, they wouldn't let him cuz they followed him around the country for three years and knew literally everything he was doing. shyt was comical to a point. When the feds finally moved in they told my buddy that he was one of the more fun people to follow cuz he'd always have dope girls around. :mjlol:


But anyway, this kid is generally scum and if he can get through Uber's background check then somethings wrong with their system.
 

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Lol there was no deal to cut. He got indicted by the feds for trafficking weed, steroids, and pain pills. Even if he wanted to talk, they wouldn't let him cuz they followed him around the country for three years and knew literally everything he was doing. shyt was comical to a point. When the feds finally moved in they told my buddy that he was one of the more fun people to follow cuz he'd always have dope girls around. :mjlol:
:pachaha:

But anyway, this kid is generally scum and if he can get through Uber's background check then somethings wrong with their system.
:manny: He would probably get through the citys system too bruh..the Advantage Uber has is there is constant feedback from the customers so a dope peddling scumbag would be eliminated quicker.since all it would take was a few bad ratings
The govt system would take a year to catch up to someone at their annual renewal time
 
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