“Automation should be liberating humanity from mundane repetitive jobs.”

[Wildin]

I disagree. There will and should always be work for unskilled labor. Someone has to mop the floor. Someone has to drive the bus. Someone has to take out the trash and someone has to give orders. Not everyone can be a chief.

Roombas.

Commercial roombas.

Tesla buses that have the bus route and stops programmed in.

Tesla garbage trucks that have the route programmed in.

In my city the truck drives up, an arm reaches out, grabs the can, lifts it up and over and shakes it, then sets the can back down and goes to the next house. No guy hanging on the back of the truck, no guy getting out and walking over.

Super simple job and these guys are getting 30 an hr. They aren't going home smelling like garbage needing to bathe and get the stench off them. He sits in a truck with heat and a/c and drives up to a curb and pushes a button and maybe moves a lever.

That guy hanging on the back of the truck or that hopped out and grabbed the can got fired at least a decade ago.

 

[RARI_Godwind]

Automation would be more expensive than hiring people. Automation is far from perfect and is generations away from even being possible to implement en masse.

America in particular is a hyper-consumerist economy. Which means it needs people with money to constantly be spending that money. If their jobs are automated to the point large numbers of people are perpetually unemployed, starved, and homeless they won’t even have money to spend. They still need food, shelter, and purpose so good luck with figuring that equation out. It’s gonna be gta fr fr out this btch.

But lemme guess how you’d solve that, we’ll have fukkin robocop outside of every McDonald’s and a T1000 inside every Walmart




Also notice the rhetoric around automating the workforce is always aimed at “unskilled jobs” and not jobs that require precision and objectivity like surgeons, radiologists, managers, pilots, etc.

Shouldn’t have to spell it out but obviously the conversation revolves around weaponizing automation not around automation itself.

If hypothetically we can automate anything, why not automate everything? I’d much rather have a machine carry out my procedure than have a doctor show up drunk and leave utensils inside of my body

Not to mention the human elements of innovation, fairness, religion, moral quandary, and satisfaction. It’s not an easy sell at all nor a possible one.

Y’all dystopian automation fantasies are so weird but luckily they’re impossible.

 

[Jekyll]

I don’t know what the hell that first guy was talking about but that tech is advancing at a scary rate. It’ll work because capitalism will make it work. $50 billion spent on AI initiatives last year and the vast majority of projects are still behind closed doors. Its coming.

Even in the tech industry automation just means shifting that work to someone in India

Ehh not really. It means you have to know alot of BASH/PS, know the Cloud APIs/CLIs, K8S, infrastructure toolsets etc before you get hired for alot of roles.

Alot of companies hate outsourcing overseas. The time differences and language barriers piss everybody off and make working with them alot harder than usual. There’s such a huge talent hole in the US that it’s basically necessary but its usually a last resort for alot of companies I’ve work for.


Tech will probably be hit the hardest by automation to be honest. Its just the easiest place to do it. Everything is early now but once a lot of these systems mature then there will only be a need
for operators of them. They are already heavily consolidating positions in the industry. Automation is just the final push.

 

[chineebai]

I don’t know what the hell that first guy was talking about but that tech is advancing at a scary rate. It’ll work because capitalism will make it work. $50 billion spent on AI initiatives last year and the vast majority of projects are still behind closed doors. Its coming.



Ehh not really. It means you have to know alot of BASH/PS, know the Cloud APIs/CLIs, K8S, infrastructure toolsets etc before you get hired for alot of roles.

Alot of companies hate outsourcing overseas. The time differences and language barriers piss everybody off and make working with them alot harder than usual. There’s such a huge talent hole in the US that it’s basically necessary but its usually a last resort for alot of companies I’ve work for.


Tech will probably be hit the hardest by automation to be honest. Its just the easiest place to do it. Everything is early now but once a lot of these systems mature then there will only be a need
for operators of them. They are already heavily consolidating positions in the industry. Automation is just the final push.

I have the opposite experience being in various tech companies. They have gangs of engineers to help with automating stuff, whatever that is, coding to automate shytty processes, analyze, build dashboards, etc, but nobody ever lost their job because of the automation. I've seen people lose jobs because it's cheaper in India.

 

[Freedman]

Nah just going to shift the mundane work. Instead of flipping burgers min wage worker will Monitor a machine flipping burgers maybe do some basic troubleshooting and small repairs when necessary

 

[Mowgli]

I can see the headlines already. What happened to all the jobs that no one wanted

 

[Jekyll]

I have the opposite experience being in various tech companies. They have gangs of engineers to help with automating stuff, whatever that is, coding to automate shytty processes, analyze, build dashboards, etc, but nobody ever lost their job because of the automation. I've seen people lose jobs because it's cheaper in India.

Yeah we’re a ways off since modern AI systems are still so new but it feels like the writing is on the wall. Depending on your workload and tech stack you can automate yourself out of a job pretty easily. Or make it so that only your job as the one who built the automation is safe. The amount of skillsets you need from what used to be separate positions to work one role is crazy compared to when I started 12 years ago. And it almost always centers around being able to code/script something.

Alot of places won’t be able to transition without completely overhauling their codebase and work processes. But once that work is done then its done and you just have to iterate over it. As far as the outsourcing, I’ve never really worked for a place that had money issues. I just know generally whenever we have to work with someone in an Asian country that alot of people complain and would rather work with a native english speaker.

 

[Turbulent]

Also, i think the less jobs there are, the less money is spent which in turn leads to deflation.

 

[Diondon]

These robots gone whup y'all ass

 

[BEN23]

It’s gonna be like welfare - coli republican