Ayo, How would YOU have ended mass effect 3 .. or ME in general?

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HUGE SPOILER ALERT

If you haven't finished the game .. dont read on.

We all know ME3 ending was pure trash.

How would you have changed these events ..

For the ending they could've just found a sweet spot or something and blew it up. Maybe use the technology of a fallen reaper ship and run studies on it. They really could've did anything. That ending was unreal.

they could shut down the relays somehow, or blow them up. Didn't shepard travel outside a relay in me2 to kill a humanoid reaper? They could've fleshed that out more. Especially with whatever the illusive man was studying. He could have discovered something out there. As opposed to becoming one with the damn reapers himself or whatever bullshyt they was kicking.

I really like the idea of reverse engineering a reaper though. I mean the protheans being the collectors was pretty damn cool IMO. But they could've taken one of those reapers and did something with it. Ok i get it, reaper indoctrination. But, its technology right? It's not some magical shyt, its tech. Tech can be studied, and learned from. Its a signal. We can block signals .. refract signals ... all kinds of shyt. This whole, unbeatable godlike A.I creature shyt is ridiculous. What were the reapers doing? I gathered that they were harvesting species, and taking all natural resources .... increasing their forces .. and then going into hide mode so they didn't spend everything they gained because .... like normal things .. they had a recharge time. Or a sleep time. Or whatever. Anyway thats my opinion ..

Anybody wanna add or take away please do.
 

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I actually preferred the "Illusive Man is a Reaper" theory. The fact that he was so Pro-Human and made sure that humans excelled in the galaxy it coulda been spun that he did that so Humans could be cultivated by the Reapers. The way he went out was so lame imo.

I hate Deus ex machinas so the Star Child thing is really dumb to me, everything leading up to it was awesome. ME 3 technically took everything about ME2 and made it better and then they ended it like that. I woulda tied the Illusive Man in and made him the big bad, after the reveal that he is a Reaper that was behind both Sovereign and Harbinger. And brought Shepard back to rally the galaxy to the point of a joint war to exterminate everyone in one fell swoop. After beating that, being unsure of Shepard's future, we would have a epilogue of Tali (if she survived) or Garrus catching up with the crew months after the battle.

The after credits scene then shows Shepard waking up in the rubble of a the superweapon, and opens one eye and its the same eyes as the Illusive Man


*black screen*

:whoo:
 

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I actually preferred the "Illusive Man is a Reaper" theory. The fact that he was so Pro-Human and made sure that humans excelled in the galaxy it coulda been spun that he did that so Humans could be cultivated by the Reapers. The way he went out was so lame imo.

I hate Deus ex machinas so the Star Child thing is really dumb to me, everything leading up to it was awesome. ME 3 technically took everything about ME2 and made it better and then they ended it like that. I woulda tied the Illusive Man in and made him the big bad, after the reveal that he is a Reaper that was behind both Sovereign and Harbinger. And brought Shepard back to rally the galaxy to the point of a joint war to exterminate everyone in one fell swoop. After beating that, being unsure of Shepard's future, we would have a epilogue of Tali (if she survived) or Garrus catching up with the crew months after the battle.

The after credits scene then shows Shepard waking up in the rubble of a the superweapon, and opens one eye and its the same eyes as the Illusive Man


*black screen*

:whoo:

Now this here ... i DISAGREE but i LOVE it at the same time. That would be dope man. Im very happy to have read that shyt no bullshyt. Makes me happy.
ME3 really was the culmination ...

them hybrid enemies were FIRE.
Muhfukkas saw that Asari reaper and instantly hit the :lupe: :merchant: ..... :damn:
 

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HUGE SPOILER ALERT

If you haven't finished the game .. dont read on.

We all know ME3 ending was pure trash.

How would you have changed these events ..

For the ending they could've just found a sweet spot or something and blew it up. Maybe use the technology of a fallen reaper ship and run studies on it. They really could've did anything. That ending was unreal.

they could shut down the relays somehow, or blow them up. Didn't shepard travel outside a relay in me2 to kill a humanoid reaper? They could've fleshed that out more. Especially with whatever the illusive man was studying. He could have discovered something out there. As opposed to becoming one with the damn reapers himself or whatever bullshyt they was kicking.

I really like the idea of reverse engineering a reaper though. I mean the protheans being the collectors was pretty damn cool IMO. But they could've taken one of those reapers and did something with it. Ok i get it, reaper indoctrination. But, its technology right? It's not some magical shyt, its tech. Tech can be studied, and learned from. Its a signal. We can block signals .. refract signals ... all kinds of shyt. This whole, unbeatable godlike A.I creature shyt is ridiculous. What were the reapers doing? I gathered that they were harvesting species, and taking all natural resources .... increasing their forces .. and then going into hide mode so they didn't spend everything they gained because .... like normal things .. they had a recharge time. Or a sleep time. Or whatever. Anyway thats my opinion ..

Anybody wanna add or take away please do.

The OG ending would've tied into the stars dying from "ME2". You know, Tali's loyalty mission where the sun fukks up your shields? And all the scientists are like :lupe: "why is this happening?"....that was supposed to be the Reaper's big plan. Use dark matter to kill off all the stars or some shyt.

If I remember correctly the original writer was moved to that wack ass "Star Wars" online game Bioware made, so they had to change the story.

Anyway, the ending we got (The Reapers trying to prevent a technological singularity) would've been fine without Star Kid and the 3 more or less same choices.

If you really want to get pissed off read what they originally had planned for the ending. A Bioware writer named Patrick Weekes posted it on the Penny Arcade forums under a secret account, but got exposed. Bioware denied it was him but the user name Takyris was tied to Patrick Weekes for years:

I have nothing to do with the ending beyond a) having argued successfully a long time ago that we needed a chance to say goodbye to our squad, b) having argued successfully that Cortez shouldn’t automatically die in that shuttle crash, and c) having written Tali’s goodbye bit, as well as a couple of the holo-goodbyes for people I wrote (Mordin, Kasumi, Jack, etc).

No other writer did, either, except for our lead. This was entirely the work of our lead and Casey himself, sitting in a room and going through draft after draft.

And honestly, it kind of shows.

Every other mission in the game had to be held up to the rest of the writing team, and the writing team then picked it apart and made suggestions and pointed out the parts that made no sense. This mission? Casey and our lead deciding that they didn’t need to be peer-reviewe.d

And again, it shows.

If you’d asked me the themes of Mass Effect 3, I’d break them down as:

Galactic Alliances

Friends

Organics versus Synthetics

In my personal opinion, the first two got a perfunctory nod. We did get a goodbye to our friends, but it was in a scene that was divorced from the gameplay — a deliberate “nothing happens here” area with one turret thrown in for no reason I really understand, except possibly to obfuscate the “nothing happens here”-ness. The best missions in our game are the ones in which the gameplay and the narrative reinforce each other. The end of the Genophage campaign exemplifies that for me — every line of dialog is showing you both sides of the krogan, be they horrible brutes or proud warriors; the art shows both their bombed-out wasteland and the beautiful world they once had and could have again; the combat shows the terror of the Reapers as well as a blatant reminder of the rachni, which threatened the galaxy and had to be stopped by the krogan last time. Every line of code in that mission is on target with the overall message.

The endgame doesn’t have that. I wanted to see banshees attacking you, and then have asari gunships zoom in and blow them away. I wanted to see a wave of rachni ravagers come around a corner only to be met by a wall of krogan roaring a battle cry. Here’s the horror the Reapers inflicted upon each race, and here’s the army that you, Commander Shepard, made out of every race in the galaxy to fight them.

I personally thought that the Illusive Man conversation was about twice as long as it needed to be — something that I’ve been told in my peer reviews of my missions and made edits on, but again, this is a conversation no writer but the lead ever saw until it was already recorded. I did love Anderson’s goodbye.

For me, Anderson’s goodbye is where it ended. The stuff with the Catalyst just… You have to understand. Casey is really smart and really analytical. And the problem is that when he’s not checked, he will assume that other people are like him, and will really appreciate an almost completely unemotional intellectual ending. I didn’t hate it, but I didn’t love it.

And then, just to be a dikk… what was SUPPOSED to happen was that, say you picked “Destroy the Reapers”. When you did that, the system was SUPPOSED to look at your score, and then you’d show a cutscene of Earth that was either:

a) Very high score: Earth obviously damaged, but woo victory

b) Medium score: Earth takes a bunch of damage from the Crucible activation. Like dropping a bomb on an already war-ravaged city. Uh, well, maybe not LIKE that as much as, uh, THAT.

c) Low score: Earth is a cinderblock, all life on it completely wiped out

I have NO IDEA why these different cutscenes aren’t in there. As far as I know, they were never cut. Maybe they were cut for budget reasons at the last minute. I don’t know. But holy crap, yeah, I can see how incredibly disappointing it’d be to hear of all the different ending possibilities and have it break down to “which color is stuff glowing?” Or maybe they ARE in, but they’re too subtle to really see obvious differences, and again, that’s… yeah.

Okay, that’s a lot to have written for something that’s gonna go away in an hour.

I still teared up at the ending myself, but really, I was tearing up for the quick flashbacks to old friends and the death of Anderson. I wasn’t tearing up over making a choice that, as it turned out, didn’t have enough cutscene differentiation on it.

And to be clear, I don’t even really wish Shepard had gotten a ride-off-into-sunset ending. I was honestly okay with Shepard sacrificing himself. I just expected it to be for something with more obvious differentiation, and a stronger tie to the core themes — all three of them.

Fred.
 

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This thread is already better than the ending lol.

I was cool with them being zombies... like they came from nowhere ... they are everything ... and we gonna stop them...

Shyt that coulda gave them a platform to just buss an all out action rpg game if they wanted to.
I still remember sovereigns original speech and the feeling i got from it ...

Like yo. .. this nikka is for real! :lupe: ... shyt is real!! :krs:
 

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The Leviathan should have never been DLC and should have been part of the original game and the ending. Everything from indoctrination to the AI to the actual Reapers came from them. It should have went like this:

- Story of the Leviathans and DLC stay in tact
- Leviathans join fight against Reapers, provide incredible intel and even capture some Reapers
- The Batarians hate the Leviathans and Shep must weigh option of having Batarians on his side
- Reapers are on verge of defeat but Leviathans want to keep them as slaves instead of destroy them
- Illusive Man is up on this plan and joins Leviathans
- Shepard gets word of plan and confronts Illusive Man and Leviathans in finale
- Leviathans still consider themselves apex race and lets Shepard know he is either with them or against them. Illusive Man concurs...in a way.
- When Leviathans went into hiding they destroyed anything that showed they existed
- Shepard must weigh option of wiping out existing Leviathans and also killing Illusive Man
 

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The ending of this game and the complete fukking disaster of Dragon Age 2 has made me not want to buy anymore games from Bioware and EA.
 

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The Leviathan should have never been DLC and should have been part of the original game and the ending. Everything from indoctrination to the AI to the actual Reapers came from them. It should have went like this:

- Story of the Leviathans and DLC stay in tact
- Leviathans join fight against Reapers, provide incredible intel and even capture some Reapers
- The Batarians hate the Leviathans and Shep must weigh option of having Batarians on his side
- Reapers are on verge of defeat but Leviathans want to keep them as slaves instead of destroy them
- Illusive Man is up on this plan and joins Leviathans
- Shepard gets word of plan and confronts Illusive Man and Leviathans in finale
- Leviathans still consider themselves apex race and lets Shepard know his either with them or against them. Illusive Man concurs...in a way.
- When Leviathans went into hiding they destroyed anything that showed they existed
- Shepard must weigh option of wiping out existing Leviathans and also killing Illusive Man

Breh .. them batarians would have to :camby: :
:heh:
 

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Your words are as empty as your future
I am the vanguard of your destruction
This exchange... is over.



"Commander i dont know what you did but that thing that just pulled a turn that would tear any of our ships in half"
 

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Another ending I think would've been cool:

First off for this ending to work they would've had to add the Prothean Javik to the regular game. No DLC shyt. Make you find him part of the story.

Anyway The Reapers destroy everything, wrecking shyt, all Shepard's friends die, but he makes his way to the cryochamber that he found Javik in. The lid closes, the screen goes black....end of game.

The next "Mass Effect" game would have all new characters....whole new setting. Nothing from the previous game....but as the game goes on you find the cryochamber, and Shepard....and then you realize this is 50,000 years in the future, and Shepard is basically the new Prothean trying to warn people about the Reapers. shyt would be crack cocaine status.

Fred.
 

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Another ending I think would've been cool:

First off for this ending to work they would've had to add the Prothean Javik to the regular game. No DLC shyt. Make you find him part of the story.

Anyway The Reapers destroy everything, wrecking shyt, all Shepard's friends die, but he makes his way to the cryochamber that he found Javik in. The lid closes, the screen goes black....end of game.

The next "Mass Effect" game would have all new characters....whole new setting. Nothing from the previous game....but as the game goes on you find the cryochamber, and Shepard....and then you realize this is 50,000 years in the future, and Shepard is basically the new Prothean trying to warn people about the Reapers. shyt would be crack cocaine status.

Fred.
lol i love the creativity but i can't get behind this b.
How shepard gonna put in all this work ... only to throw himself in a cage and call it a day :heh:
 

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lol i love the creativity but i can't get behind this b.
How shepard gonna put in all this work ... only to throw himself in a cage and call it a day :heh:

It's not a good ending, it would obviously have to be one of the worst ones. The downside to this whole deal is Bioware still has to pick a canon ending anyway unless the next game somehow completely ignores the massive galactic war that just happened. Which would be another :snoop: in a string of them for Bioware.

Fred.
 
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