Ayo...I think it's time we set the record straight with Black Feminism and Feminism once and for all

[Luke Cage]

its actually called womanism, not black feminism.
if you don't know that than you probably don't know what hell you're talking about.
google it or something. 1 star

 

[*L*E*G*A*C*Y*]

its actually called womanism, not black feminism.
if you don't know that than you probably don't know what hell you're talking about.
google it or something. 1 star

Lol. I know what I'm talking about breh. I actually took a couple of women's studies and gender studies courses in college (I was the only black man in all of them).

 

[bcrusaderw]

Very good thread.

 

[loyola llothta]

@Y2Dre how did this movement start "feminists"?

 

[Sk3ptical]

feminists they all need to shut the fukk up

 

[Elle Driver]

Most of you don't know what feminism is.

And black feminism is a new concept, the likes of Angela Davis and Bell Hooks believed in womanism.

 

[Y2Dre]

@Y2Dre how did this movement start "feminists"?

Based on what I've read a lot of people believe it was a ploy to take steam away from the civil rights/ black power movement. Split the Black man and the Black woman up.

 

[Medicate]

Yea, I said it.

I know alot of y'all would like to think that the majority of black feminists are black male hating crazies, but this is not the case. After being on tumblr and following many self-proclaimed black feminists I realize they are one of the greatest allies the black community has to offer. In the past couple of months black feminists and black women have shown the hypocrisy of modern day feminism (white feminism).

Feminism is a great concept...equality for women, respect of abilities, ending unfair wages and pay for women in the workforce, etc that I support 100%...the but modern day version of feminism is steeped in racism. Basically this form of feminism has no desire to even address that there is anything wrong with the system. It's just fine in their mind, they just want a seat at the white supremacist table and want to continue the legacy of white privilege. They have no interest in smashing the patriarchy they benefit from so they say...

Don't get it twisted. I know the game these birds be playing. Whenever they say, they want equality and support for women and all that stuff...they mean WHITE women. Because in their mind (the mind of the dominant society), the only real men and women are white...everybody else is just a secondary. So with that sentiment said, it's obvious that they have a reason why they purposely shun the opinions, words, thoughts, and fail to recognize the efforts women of color...especially black women have made towards the feminist movement.

By shunning black feminism..you are shunning the works and efforst of people like Angela Davis, member of the black panthers and an advocate of abolishing the current prison system. Harriet Tubman, the great mind behind the underground railroad that led many enslaved blacks to freedom in the north during slavery. Francis Cress Welsing, a prominent black female author that created the "Cress Theory Of Color Confrontation" which explored how white supremacy functions. Ida B Wells who was an early leader of the civil righst movement and was one of the first suffragists, Rosa Parks, the first lady of the civil rights movement (which led to giving the right to vote to everybody else other than white men and women) who refused to give up her seat on a bus for a white man when segregation was the law of the land, and many others.

What's the modern day version of (white) feminist representation? Sex In The City...a show about privileged white women having random sex with rich white men and buying shoes and purses. Girls. A show about a bunch of trust fund gentrifiers living in Brooklyn where the only people of color are casted as "the help" and the main character (Lena Dunham) admits in a book to secually molesting her sister from one years old to god knows when and doesn't receive any negative repurcussions from it (in fact, she won several awards after the fact). And other tripe.

Black feminism is necessary because black women are more than likely to be assaulted than any other group of people.
Black feminism is neccessary because black women make up the MAJORITY of female prisoners in America.
Black feminism is neccessary because black women are three times as likely to be unemployed than white women (whoohooo sisterhood!).


So when you say black feminists are whatever...you are negating the influence of those that are here to support and enrich not only black people...but the human race in general.

Happy Black History Month y'all.

This the only thing I need to see and know about what Black Feminism is about:

 

[A Real Human Bean]

Most of you don't know what feminism is.

And black feminism is a new concept, the likes of Angela Davis and Bell Hooks believed in womanism.

Black feminist organizations were around way before the term "womanism" was even coined.

To respond to the OP: I definitely agree that feminists movements and those involved in them can be great allies for the black community and, really, for oppressed peoples globally. That was the goal for many of the early black feminist organization in the 60's. They aimed to address not only the problems of black women in the U.S. but the problems of marginalized groups every where. They were very class conscious and well aware of the greater class struggle, along with their individual struggles for rights as black women.

And it's should worthwhile to note that those movements back then faced the exact same criticism from the black community that black feminist movements face today. Though we've seen a lot of positive change in our society due to the effects of woman's rights movements of the 60's and 70's, I think there's still a lot of work to do.

 

[Elle Driver]

Black feminist organizations were around way before the term "womanism" was even coined.

To respond to the OP: I definitely agree that feminists movements and those involved in them can be great allies for the black community and, really, for oppressed peoples globally. That was the goal for many of the early black feminist organization in the 60's. They aimed to address not only the problems of black women in the U.S. but the problems of marginalized groups every where. They were very class conscious and well aware of the greater class struggle, along with their individual struggles for rights as black women.

And it's should worthwhile to note that those movements back then faced the exact same criticism from the black community that black feminist movements face today. Though we've seen a lot of positive change in our society due to the effects of woman's rights movements of the 60's and 70's, I think there's still a lot of work to do.

Not really, womanism was created to combat the idea of feminism which was not inclusionary at all. This was during the time when the feminist movement came around, and black women did not feel included, so womanism was created to intersect the idea of black womanhood and race.

 

[marcuz]

Not really, womanism was created to combat the idea of feminism which was not inclusionary at all. This was during the time when the feminist movement came around, and black women did not feel included, so womanism was created to intersect the idea of black womanhood and race.

so its the same movement as white feminism, but with their own name because the whites wouldn't include black women. correct? much like the freshly coined term "misogynoir"

 

[Elle Driver]

so its the same movement as white feminism, but with their own name because the whites wouldn't include black women. correct? much like the freshly coined term "misogynoir"

Not really. It address racism as well as black womanhood, which comes with it's own struggles.

 

[marcuz]

Black women have always been pillars in the community standing by and fighting for black men and families, even when their husbands were being beaten and sold and their kids torn from their arms.

But guess who told black men that black women should matter to them as much as white women matter in their own society? And by many of the responses here you can see a few black men bought it. They think a working black woman is their enemy. Historically black people have been poor and have had no economic power in the western world. If you look at successful immigrant populations most of them have both men and women working, from shop keepers to doctors and scientists, to make it to the top. Yet some black men here believe a working black woman is manly, an intellectual black woman is too uppity and nonsubmissive, and a woman who makes more money and isn't working at McDonalds at 25 is emasculating. Again, who told black men this? Because this wasn't the consensus in my dad's generation. Who taught men this? And why? To keep you in your place socially, economically and other ways that you all already know.

the pillars and backbone of the community nonsense isn't reall true at all. most black men dont have a problem with women making more money. in fact, i'd argue that the opposite is closer to the truth. a lot of BW are scared to get into relations with BM that are economically their superior. chicks are so use to dating down that you've convinced yourselves guys are intimidated by your success.




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[marcuz]

Not really. It address racism as well as black womanhood, which comes with it's own struggles.

whats some examples of womanist groups tackling racism outside of colorism and beauty standards. everytime i check out these black feminist sites, most of the articles are attacking black men or WW


edit: example: http://www.forharriet.com/#axzz3R69kjFN6

just checked this site,most of the articles are about black men or white feminism

 

[Blackking]

Most women who actually did things for our communities..

Ida b wells, assata shaukur, corrta king, betty shabazz, harriat tubman... queens in Ancient Africa...

Feminism is a sign of an inferior or broken people..... we only needed that when we feed into white supremacy. Their women were never respected. We learned the disrespected our women outside of their systems..


Their women use ours to gain traction... and our black feminists are largely tools of white supremacy. There are very few feminists who aren't damaged