B-Real: 'Insane in the Brain' was a Kid Frost & Chubb Rock Diss, Vlad was in the Video

[pawdalaw]

Yeah I'm talking about high school because the year was 1991.

Unless you're pushing 60, when are you talking about?

I'm talking in real time, nobody gave a fukk about Chubb Rock outside of a couple singles. People fukked with whole Cypress albums.

Not really getting why this is so hard to understand. All that "but Chubb is a superior lyricist"....cool. That's internet talk. I'm telling you how the music was received in real time.

Fred.

And Im telling you that Cypress Hill is not held in high esteem within Hip Hop. So pardon me (and others) if we take offense to B Real dissing someone of Chubb's caliber.
You're using the same logic that applies to groups like Kriss Kross and Black Eyed Peas. Cypress Hill relied heavily on a gimmick and when Muggs could no longer carry them the fell off.

 

[delnegro]

I'm going to show my age here but it seems like everyone mentions Treat Em Right while forgetting Ya Bad Chubbs..."I am NOT Robo cop, I am Chubb Rock". shyt had NYC on fire that summer.

Also there's a video Chubb shot around the way, that never came out. Biggie before the deal, MC Serch are both in it & it was shot on St.James betw Fulton & Gates, BIGS block. A young delnegro tried to get some camera shine too, always wanted to know if I made the cut. You could be in a video for a millisecond in the 90s...If shorties recognize you?! Guaranteed satisfaction. SN- this was the 2nd time in my teens seeing Serch in a NYC hood on some regular shyt.

 

[OGBobbyJohnson]

La Raza is a classic tho

 

[Waterproof]

The Booth is some fukkin weirdos, Cypress Hill Is fukkin legends, Their First 4 Albums can hang with anybody, Elephant's On Acid is one of last year's best album and Soul Assassin's still one of the dopest crews in hip hop

 

[Waterproof]

And Im telling you that Cypress Hill is not held in high esteem within Hip Hop. [/B]So pardon me (and others) if we take offense to B Real dissing someone of Chubb's caliber.
You're using the same logic that applies to groups like Kriss Kross and Black Eyed Peas. Cypress Hill relied heavily on a gimmick and when Muggs could no longer carry them the fell off.

Your hip hop pass is revoked

 

[pawdalaw]

The Booth is some fukkin weirdos, Cypress Hill Is fukkin legends, Their First 4 Albums can hang with anybody, Elephant's On Acid is one of last year's best album and Soul Assassin's still one of the dopest crews in hip hop

Your hip hop pass is revoked

You don't even get half a bar.

 

[SleezyBigSlim]

The B in B Real must stand for bytch! Ice Cube ended this dude's career

 

[Walt]

I’m late to this thread but GOOD MOTHERfukkING LORD what happened to hip hop discourse on this site and what is this historical revision????

And some of you cats who initially went along with this insanity damn sure know better.

Cats said Kid Frost was >>>> than a group with a classic HOOD album (before they rode the prep school stoner wave) helmed by a legendary producer who birthed Alchemist and is still working with cutting edge talents!!!!! Kid Frost is a low key racist with a gimmicky Mexican anthem (which I like).

Then, on some bizarre Black Excellence mixed with nostalgia nonsense, cats said Chubb Rock’s corny ass was more significant to the culture than a group with.... see above.

I’m from Harlem and grew up in the so-called Golden Age, with a famous rapper as my blood relative. Treat Em Right was a very cool part jam, but GTFOH with the Chubbster and his hip house party trash albums. Yabba Dabba Doo was fukkin trash and a beat bite. He made mad embarrassing music and was a fat ivy league dork. You new nikkas be playing doofy faux militant politics, and you older nikkas def done lost your minds trying to pander to doofuses.

HAHAHHAHHAHAHAHA @ Chubbster having mad songs better than the best Cypress song. On no fukkin planet ever, lame nikkas. In the words of Cube (when he was still on the level): “I leave that to the brothers with the funny haircuts.”

 

[BronxFleeZ]

1:46 mark is why they dissed Chubb Rock, to B-Real he mockingly used their cadence on How I Can Just Kill A Man, and instead of "time for some action" he says "time for some lyrics". But I don't think he was dissing them.

This nikka biggie literally mastered rock’s flow

 

[Robbie3000]

Cypress def more important to the culture, but Chubb is washing B-Real lyrically.

 

[Walt]

Cypress def more important to the culture, but Chubb is washing B-Real lyrically.

Dog, all due respect - that fat corny nikka was aight. That's about it. Never ever ever did anyone have a convo about Chubb Rock being ill like that. I was there. In real time. My cuzzo was cool with dude. I used to see him picking his kids up from school in Chelsea. He had a couple classic NY party jams - Treat em Right and Ya Bad Chubbs - but he was not a noteworthy MC on any level like that. And nikkas used to consistently say he had the weakest verse on Crooklyn Dodgers II. Jeru was the obvious standout there. Chubb Rocks albums are uneven at best, and honestly borderline wack. B Real has classic songs, classic verses, and lines that have been samples for mad rap joints over the years. It's not even a conversation for me.

 

[Walt]

For every jam Chubbster gave us there are 5 songs like this:



and this:

 

[Yaboysix]

1:46 mark is why they dissed Chubb Rock, to B-Real he mockingly used their cadence on How I Can Just Kill A Man, and instead of "time for some action" he says "time for some lyrics". But I don't think he was dissing them.

Bruh, I’ve never heard of these guys!

who’s the first cat?

 

[DANJ!]

Wow... I really missed some wild-ass, cap-ass threads... the revisionism is NUTS...

Chubb was dope... but the hype train goin' on in the thread is some other shyt. In real time, fukk all this talk about "bars" and "superior lyricism" and all that, Cypress Hill definitely had a stronger vibe in the early part of their run than some of y'all are on here claiming. Y'all who are saying they were just some pop group that made stoner cac shyt... YOU nikkaS WERE LATE. Because before that happened, that first Cypress album was a street level smash first and foremost. The MTV crew got on board with "Insane In The Brain" and all that, that's later down the line.

And this is not to discount Chubb, because he definitely scored his hits, made dope shyt... but this shyt like he was one of the elite is some fantasy talk. That didn't happen.

The Biggie comparisons are weird AF too- because the only similarities they have are being from Brooklyn and being fat. Outside of that, I have never heard any comparisons between BIG and Chubb except here.

And Kid Frost... come on now...

 

[Threnody]

This nikka biggie literally mastered rock’s flow

Word

Biggie sounded like Chubb's thugged out little brother on his demo tape