Back when LeBron often ended high school games in the first half...

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No one has gotten 4-5 rings since LeBron came into the league. No one has more than 3 rings since 2004.

And 3 Finals MVPs is tied for 2nd in league history. Only MJ has more. Saying that 3 Finals MVPs ain't enough is some stupid, stupid shyt, especially when he spent nearly 3/4 of his career in Cleveland.

LeBron had to play 11 years in Cleveland and STILL has 3 titles. That alone should cement him as top-3 all-time.
Semantics. We saw Shaq get his 4th after bron came in. We saw Kobe and Duncan get their 5th since lebron came in. Thats the point. You cant claim to be top3 all time when we've seen great players win more than you. He gets more credit all the time for shyt he didnt do yet. Everyone gets held to the highest standard except bron.
 

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breh he was playing against 5'7 white boys.

When he got to the NBA and everyone was athletic, he lost 6 times in the Finals, including 1-8 in the past 8 tries, and two sweeps.

He's 3-5 in the past 8 tries, the other loss coming against San Antonio in 07 in a series that was a foregone conclusion. The biggest Bron fans on the planet didn't give him a shot at winning.
 

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Semantics. We saw Shaq get his 4th after bron came in. We saw Kobe and Duncan get their 5th since lebron came in. Thats the point. You cant claim to be top3 all time when we've seen great players win more than you. He gets more credit all the time for shyt he didnt do yet. Everyone gets held to the highest standard except bron.


No one you named was more vital to their team's success than Bron was to his. Shaq and Kobe won their first 3 together. Duncan was on the greatest sports dynasty of the modern era for his entire career. Contributing team accomplishments or failures to 1 player is a corny and dated argument.
 

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I remember when he was getting ready to be drafted, some commentator claimed that his passing was overrated and he wasn't making any passes that any decent forward in college couldn't make.

That guy was a full-blown idiot.





That game was so hyped and NO ONE thought it was gonna go down like that. Oak Hill was #1 in the country, had D1 prospects coming in as their 8th and 9th men while LeBron was playing with little guys....and then he comes in and damn near outscores Oak Hill on his own, just to toss dimes to the little guys left and right too.

Low-key early sign of what he was able to do in the 2007/2015/2018 playoff runs.




LeBron's first NBA game ever, 18 years old, had NEVER played a game that counted above the high school level....somehow goes 12-20 for 25-6-9 and 4 steals and is the best player on the court. Who da fukk has ever been the best player on the court in their first NBA game coming straight out of high school????

Jumpers from all over the court, dimes to everyone, jumping passing lanes for steals, finger-rolls with both hands, changing hands or double-clutching in mid-air....in his first NBA game.




Later that season, playing the Nets who had been to the Finals the previous year....goes for 41 points and 13 assists and has the game-winning steal and layup with 15 seconds left.

Just a stupid dominant game. As a rookie. Out of high school. Against the defending ECF champs.

LeBron imo is the best player ever, Jordan is the greatest because of 2 3 peats and his overall impact on not only the game but also pop culture

But LeBron was made to be the best basketball player ever man, Mike worked his ass from childhood to halfway into his pro career to get to that level while LeBron just had it, not to say he didn’t work hard too but you could just see Bron’s intangibles was on a whole nother level in HIGH SCHOOL
 

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The first time I remember seeing LeBron in person was at IS8 in Queens playing on the same team as Bassy Telfair. LeBron only had 2 or 4 points (seriously look it up) but was by far the best player on the court and he was doing some of the same passes we see in this video. He had dropouts looking like high level talent because he kept getting people the ball in the perfect position to score. I never saw someone so big physically be that fast or pass the ball like that in person (Too Young to remember peak Magic).

I have nothing but love and respect for LeBron. He surpassed all expectations in my opinion.
 

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breh he was playing against 5'7 white boys.

When he got to the NBA and everyone was athletic, he made the finals more than any other great player since Magic, won more MVPs than any player since MJ, and won as many finals MVPs as Tim Duncan, Magic, and Shaq...and he’s still in the league
Fixed.

Lebron definitely lived up to the hype.
 

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No one has gotten 4-5 rings since LeBron came into the league. No one has more than 3 rings since 2004.

And 3 Finals MVPs is tied for 2nd in league history. Only MJ has more. Saying that 3 Finals MVPs ain't enough is some stupid, stupid shyt, especially when he spent nearly 3/4 of his career in Cleveland.

LeBron had to play 11 years in Cleveland and STILL has 3 titles. That alone should cement him as top-3 all-time.
The game these clowns play is to downplay everything Lebron does while holding him to a higher standard than anyone they're actually fans of. Makes no sense but that's mental illness for ya.
 

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No one you named was more vital to their team's success than Bron was to his. Shaq and Kobe won their first 3 together. Duncan was on the greatest sports dynasty of the modern era for his entire career. Contributing team accomplishments or failures to 1 player is a corny and dated argument.
The Spurs never won anything before Tim Duncan, probably won’t win anything for a long time without him.

The Spurs weren’t really a dynasty, just a consistently great team/organization.
 

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LeBron imo is the best player ever, Jordan is the greatest because of 2 3 peats and his overall impact on not only the game but also pop culture

But LeBron was made to be the best basketball player ever man, Mike worked his ass from childhood to halfway into his pro career to get to that level while LeBron just had it, not to say he didn’t work hard too but you could just see Bron’s intangibles was on a whole nother level in HIGH SCHOOL

I don't get how Bron can be greater than Jordan? Passing is great, but is it the right move in crunch time if you pass to an inferior player under the guise of making the right play? Constantly having to twist and turn rosters over to get the perfect fit for your play style? Big time turnovers late in games. Cramps under pressure from anxiety. Dallas choke. Free throw chokes. The player you guard in the finals gets finals MVP more times than you have over your career (KD 2x, Iggy, Kawhi) vs Bron 3. Finals games win/loss record 18-31.
 
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