Bad Luck Barrett Injured Again.

[THEREALBRAND]

the matches are so much more wreckless and fast paced now, probably a lot harder to execute and time things.

between all the suicide dives, table spots, ladder spots, super high spots, etc... it's not surprising to me that guys go down on the regular.

Yeah, guys are having the types of matches on Raw and Smackdown that use to be exclusively for PPVs. Everybody has the mentality of going out to "steal the show" with move after move, but they don't understand that using psychology and slowing the pace down can be just as effective.

 

[DaylitoJames]

Have Wade do more WWE movies and bring back the "Bad News" segments and call it a career... hell make him General Manager and guest panelist on the pre-shows

 

[Osmosis]

the matches are so much more wreckless and fast paced now, probably a lot harder to execute and time things.

between all the suicide dives, table spots, ladder spots, super high spots, etc... it's not surprising to me that guys go down on the regular.

That was more true 10-15 years ago

 

[Golayitdown]

Damn. Hate that for him. Dude has some of the worst luck I can ever remember

 

[T'Challa Trillmonger]

That corporate work schedule. Averaging 200 matches a year is par for the course, and that's simply dangerous.

The worst part is that they could have more expansive wrestling, and healthier wrestlers...if they would simply make jobbers out of their underutilized talent.

Instead of having the same guys fight five matches before the PPV, cannibalizing the midcard, and getting nothing out of contracts...they could avoid running their value into the ground.

I don't think it's a drug policy issue, they can get that shyt even easier legally than back in the day. The main issue with legal medication is being careful to monitor and avoid opiate addiction.

They simply undermanage and overwork their talent. It's why the Indies will continue to thrive, simply because you will find fantastic wrestlers who refuse to work that schedule, regardless of fame or fortune.

cosign

thats why i find it funny when people talk about bryan's injuries, as if he wasnt dealing with all this + the fact that he worked longer/more matches than anyone on the roster, and his style is based on him taking crazy bumps and a high octane stiff style

the injury was bound to happen when someone is overworked like that, moreso when it is a worker who takes pride in being great everytime

 

[Jmare007]

That corporate work schedule. Averaging 200 matches a year is par for the course, and that's simply dangerous.

The worst part is that they could have more expansive wrestling, and healthier wrestlers...if they would simply make jobbers out of their underutilized talent.

Instead of having the same guys fight five matches before the PPV, cannibalizing the midcard, and getting nothing out of contracts...they could avoid running their value into the ground.

I don't think it's a drug policy issue, they can get that shyt even easier legally than back in the day. The main issue with legal medication is being careful to monitor and avoid opiate addiction.

They simply undermanage and overwork their talent. It's why the Indies will continue to thrive, simply because you will find fantastic wrestlers who refuse to work that schedule, regardless of fame or fortune.

Yeah, guys are having the types of matches on Raw and Smackdown that use to be exclusively for PPVs. Everybody has the mentality of going out to "steal the show" with move after move, but they don't understand that using psychology and slowing the pace down can be just as effective.

It's 2002 all over again. I remember a bunch of dudes going down with big injuries and WWE forcing the roster to tone down the style. Back then it was more about gimmick matches so it was kinda easier to cut things from the get go, nowadays it's a real style issue. But hey, if Sasha and Bailey can have compelling matches based mainly on psycology then sure as fukk the rest of the roster can, it's not as if fans don't react to that kinda thing anymore, they just need to be more dedicated to the story instead of the spots. They need to smarten up

 

[AquaCityBoy]

Hes good as the manager of the League of Nations. Easily the best talker of the group.

Rusev

 

[mrken12]

Rusev

People overrate Barrett's mic skills. They're OK but not good enough where they make you ignore his mediocre in-ring skills.

 

[mrken12]

cosign

thats why i find it funny when people talk about bryan's injuries, as if he wasnt dealing with all this + the fact that he worked longer/more matches than anyone on the roster, and his style is based on him taking crazy bumps and a high octane stiff style

the injury was bound to happen when someone is overworked like that, moreso when it is a worker who takes pride in being great everytime

Rollins and Cesaro being other examples.

 

[Project Downtime]

That corporate work schedule. Averaging 200 matches a year is par for the course, and that's simply dangerous.

The worst part is that they could have more expansive wrestling, and healthier wrestlers...if they would simply make jobbers out of their underutilized talent.

Instead of having the same guys fight five matches before the PPV, cannibalizing the midcard, and getting nothing out of contracts...they could avoid running their value into the ground.

I don't think it's a drug policy issue, they can get that shyt even easier legally than back in the day. The main issue with legal medication is being careful to monitor and avoid opiate addiction.

They simply undermanage and overwork their talent. It's why the Indies will continue to thrive, simply because you will find fantastic wrestlers who refuse to work that schedule, regardless of fame or fortune.

Agree.

Yeah, guys are having the types of matches on Raw and Smackdown that use to be exclusively for PPVs. Everybody has the mentality of going out to "steal the show" with move after move, but they don't understand that using psychology and slowing the pace down can be just as effective.

Yes, they understand but they cannot do it. How many times have we heard via shoots and interviews on how they are pretty much encourage to one up their colleague in the ring to get the attention of Vince for how ever long?

The "compete at all cost" mindset that has been cultivated backstage is costing these performers.

It's 2002 all over again. I remember a bunch of dudes going down with big injuries and WWE forcing the roster to tone down the style. Back then it was more about gimmick matches so it was kinda easier to cut things from the get go, nowadays it's a real style issue. But hey, if Sasha and Bailey can have compelling matches based mainly on psycology then sure as fukk the rest of the roster can, it's not as if fans don't react to that kinda thing anymore, they just need to be more dedicated to the story instead of the spots. They need to smarten up

How, when Vince, Dunn and creative is dumbing down everyone and everything on the main roster. Notice that some of the best matches with the best psychology and/or in-ring storytelling does not occur on RAW or SD.

 

[Here Comes the Pain]

Add another one to the list.

 

[Jmare007]

How, when Vince, Dunn and creative is dumbing down everyone and everything on the main roster. Notice that some of the best matches with the best psychology and/or in-ring storytelling does not occur on RAW or SD.

Because I think the change in style - to a more indy based "moves+nearfalls over anything else" - has more to do with talent thinking that's what fans want and react the most to (because a huge portion of the roster worked in the indys, loathing "WWE style") when the truth is that that kind of wrestling has an expiration date for fans AND wrestler's bodies. If they smarten up watching what Sasha and Bailey (and guys like Cesaro) are doing and adapt indy style to more conventional storytelling they will realize fans will still react big to those type of matches and that going out there doing a bunch of shyt and kicking out of everything twice a week on TV isn't necessary.

 

[Mikael Blowpiff]

His primary care doctor's prolly a wild a$$hole. You know every time Woy goes in he pulls out an X-Ray and says "AHM AFRAID AH GAWWH SOME BAD NEEWS STEWWW!"

 

[patscorpio]

Wtf is up with all of these injuries I see on here so often? Are the workers far more careless now or is it because the drug policy is so strict they can't abuse shyt to get through pain anymore?

Seriously Vince might want to slow shyt down going into 2016

 

[Project Downtime]

Because I think the change in style - to a more indy based "moves+nearfalls over anything else" - has more to do with talent thinking that's what fans want and react the most to (because a huge portion of the roster worked in the indys, loathing "WWE style") when the truth is that that kind of wrestling has an expiration date for fans AND wrestler's bodies. If they smarten up watching what Sasha and Bailey (and guys like Cesaro) are doing and adapt indy style to more conventional storytelling they will realize fans will still react big to those type of matches and that going out there doing a bunch of shyt and kicking out of everything twice a week on TV isn't necessary.

Except indy stars are sent to development to "kill" their indy way of working a match so they can adept to working the "WWE style". Plus, those televised matches are heavily scripted.

No point of watching and trying to emulate Sasha and Bayley in NXT knowing full well the NXT working style (especially for the Divas) is definite no go on the main roster. It very difficult to tell a great story in the ring when the script is straight garbage and there always some unnecessary last minute change in the structure of the match.

Honestly, the WWE just need to stop doing so many working dates per year. 13 PPVs, house shows, WWE sponsored events, and the constant traveling is putting a great deal of wear and tear on performers bodies.