Barkley: LeBron can't crack my all-time top five

[Field Marshall Bradley]

Bruh, the Heat were a Ray Allen 3 away from LeBron being crucified for the entire summer. And just so your panties don't get in a bunch, Ron Artest saved Kobe in similar fashion in Game 7. But yea....that game was literally over without Ray and I knew the moment he flicked his wrist it was going in

Same can be said for Robert Bob and his game winning shots...Lakers and Spurs would probably have less titles if he misses........But that's the game, and people need to respect that instead of using it to marginalize someone's career

 

[Kill Dat Noize]

The HEAT were not leaps and bounds above Indiana or the Spurs.....Yall keep falling for the hype of Bosh and Wade when their contributions were overstated most of the playoffs....Especially Bosh

Bro just those 2 being on the floor is a contribution in itself. Having 3 guys who could create and make bail out plays is a luxury not many teams have, especially when one of them is the best player in the league.

I don't wanna hear that these guys were non factors. They're still Wade and Bosh and they still made plays. The defense still has to account for them.

 

[Kill Dat Noize]

I guess calling LeBron one of the 10 best players ever to play the game is an insult. I'm sorry for being a hater because I refuse to put him in the Top 5 and because I refuse to put him above guys who were more battle tested and won more championships.

LeBron fans can't even take a compliment. He can't just be "great". Either he's the GOAT or you're a hater.

 

[DaRock]

No doubt. And if in a few years time he keeps up at this pace and has a fistful of jewelry, I'll shut the fukk up and give the man his due. But RIGHT NOW, he ain't gettin put over Kobe. Or Duncan.



Would you rather read the cliffnotes or would you rather read the book?

I'm not tryna discredit what LeBron did. I'm tryna put what LeBron did into PERSPECTIVE. Remember, we're having an ALL TIME discussion here. Now if we're talkin talent? Then yea, LeBron is arguably #1. No player in history could do what LeBron could do.

But if we're talkin about the BEST? Which you know... involves winning? Then I'm sorry, I can't put LeBron in that conversation yet. Not in that Top 5. You could have all the talent in the world but if you're not winning then it don't matter. Is LeBron winning right now? Absolutely. Do I expect him win more in the future? Absolutely.

But if you look at what he's done so far... I mean really LOOK. Like I said we ain't talkin cliffnotes. We fans. We readers. We who watch the games. If you really LOOK at what this man has accomplished in terms of winning and HOW he's won thus far... can I say I'm MORE impressed by what he's done than what I saw guys like Kobe and Duncan do?

I'm gonna say NO. Not yet. He's yet to dominate on their level.

I was the one talking that HE's NOT DONE YET...I haven't mentioned him in the top 5...I was talking about how you pretty much were trying to down play his titles this far because he played with Bosh and Wade..and they only beat the Spurs, etc..,..so that's where the talk about do we go back and downplay what Kobe has done because he played with Shaq? Or because they beat the Nets? Or because Gasol/Artest had to bail him out in game 7? and I said NO we don't we just acknowledge their titles and don't go back and nitpick....

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

Bro just those 2 being on the floor is a contribution in itself. Having 3 guys who could create and make bail out plays is a luxury not many teams have, especially when one of them is the best player in the league.

I don't wanna hear that these guys were non factors. They're still Wade and Bosh and they still made plays. The defense still has to account for them.

D Wade couldn't even get to the cup for real in the Conference finals and Championship series and Bosh was forced to play Hibbert whom he can't defend for one, and it also neutralizes what he can do offensively...

Bosh was a lot better defensively in the Spurs series basically because of the change in physicality but he was not a threat offensively in that series either.....Hell, he didn't score not one single point in Game 7

 

[Jax]

SI.com: Where should we place LeBron James right now in a historical context? Is he a top 10 all-time guy right now on your list?
Barkley: I have him there. But he can't get any higher than where he is. I have Michael [Jordan] at No. 1. Oscar [Robertson] at No. 2. Then Wilt [Chamberlain], Kareem [Abdul-Jabbar] and [Bill] Russell. I have Kobe [Bryant], LeBron, Tim Duncan, Jerry West and Elgin Baylor after that. Those are my top 10. Those second five fluctuate, but who do I take off my top five? LeBron can get to No. 6 on my list, but here's the thing that bothers me about the whole LeBron debate: I want to know why y'all killed Kobe Bryant! Y'all don't even compare him to LeBron anymore. You are skipping him for LeBron and going right to Michael. I'm still going to take five [titles] over two. It makes me laugh with my friends -- the media just kills Kobe Bryant. Like he's dead! Five still is a lot more than two!

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nb...ey-on-lebron-james-kobe-bryant-jason-collins/

Just Chuck bein' Chuck

This gay ass nikka just last year was saying Bron was about to dispose MJ of the top1

 

[Malik]

I have acknowledge both situations( Allen/Artest).. and even in this post I stated "he probably thought we were in deep shyt", because they were...but I will ask you the same thing I just asked him, what does that have to do with them ACTUALLY winning it? Does this title NOT count or will be diminished once he retires?

No. Miami won. 30 years from now, that's what the books will say. Some people will never give Bron his just due though. The fact Bron could mess up and still have somebody like Ray hit a finals winning three in the closing seconds is to alot of people who already feel he has it easy in Miami. That's the price Bron gotta pay. Kobe has 5 rings but, he'll always have to live with the criticism that he played 2nd man to Shaq. People will never let Kobe forget that. Bron gonna get multiple rings too but, he gonna have to deal with the criticism that he won it with a superteam. I used to get pulled into these Jordan/Bron/Kobe convos but, none of these nikkas are paying me to stan....

 

[DaRock]

No. Miami won. 30 years from now, that's what the books will say. Some people will never give Bron his just due though. People don't like that he has a superteam. That's the price Bron gotta pay. Kobe has 5 rings but, he'll always have to live with the criticism that he played 2nd man to Shaq. People will never let Kobe forget that. Bron gonna get multiple rings too but, he gonna have to deal with the criticism that he won it with a superteam. I used to get pulled into these Jordan/Bron/Kobe convos but, none of these nikkas are paying me to stan....

Exactly what I was saying to the other poster..

 

[Malik]

Same can be said for Robert Bob and his game winning shots...Lakers and Spurs would probably have less titles if he misses........But that's the game, and people need to respect that instead of using it to marginalize someone's career

Robert Horry man....that's a bad boy right there

 

[McPiff]

No magic? nor bird?





and barkley is one of my fav all time but cotdamn get the entire fukk out of here with this wack ass list.

 

[Malik]

Bro just those 2 being on the floor is a contribution in itself. Having 3 guys who could create and make bail out plays is a luxury not many teams have, especially when one of them is the best player in the league.

I don't wanna hear that these guys were non factors. They're still Wade and Bosh and they still made plays. The defense still has to account for them.

People play stupid with the bolded. If Bron gets tired or tripled team, he has two other guys he can pass to that would be first options on nearly every team in the NBA. And he has another guy to pass to that's probably the most skilled 3rd point shooter in history. That's a fukkin nightmare.

 

[Swagnificent]

This gay ass nikka just last year was saying Bron was about to dispose MJ of the top1

no.....he just said what everyone who has watched basketball knows

Lebron has unseen before physical talent and abilities. He's the fastest, strongest dude ever at his position and can jump the highest. Add that to his insane basketball IQ and vision, he should be the GOAT.

But that doesn't mean he's already there. You gotta earn the top spot, not just be given it. If just phsical ability and talent rather than accomplishments warranted being top 10, then T-Mac and Vince would be in the top 3.

Talent alone ain't enough. You need to win. And right now Bron only has 2 rings. Guys like Kobe, Shaq, and Duncan all have 4-5 titles. Win the rings and then you'll earn the props. Till then all it is talk about what could be rather than what is.

 

[Eternal Tecate]

Chuck's an idiot and Kobe's not top 10

 

[OG_StankBrefs]

People play stupid with the bolded. If Bron gets tired or tripled team, he has two other guys he can pass to that would be first options on nearly every team in the NBA. And he has another guy to pass to that's probably the most skilled 3rd point shooter in history. That's a fukkin nightmare.

But what difference does any of dat make if one of those 2 is injured and da other been strugglin to pull his own weight during da whole series doe breh?

 

[Bolzmark]

-I understand Wilts dominance, but I just cant have a player in my top 5 of ALL TIME if you only shot 51% from the free throw line.

-Magic must be in the top 5.

-I got Kobe over Bron too but its not because of rings. Championships are a team achievement, and is heavily dependent on owners and general managers. Surprised Barley relies on this so much since he has none.