Barkley Says LeBron Not Up There With Jordan and Kobe

[JJ Lions]

This was posted in the other thread by @Rhakim, don't think he wanted to post the numbers since 2 and 3 were real close.

Anonymous poll of NBA players has LeBron far behind Jordan in GOAT debate


7. Who’s the best player of all time?
(117 votes)

1. 
   
   
   • Michael Jordan (73%)
   • LeBron James (11.9%)
   • Kobe Bryant (10.6%)
   • Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (1.7%)
   • Magic Johnson, Allen Iverson, Kevin Durant (1%)

2019 poll of current NBA players

 

[10bandz]

This was posted in the other thread by @Rhakim, don't think he wanted to post the numbers since 2 and 3 were real close.

Anonymous poll of NBA players has LeBron far behind Jordan in GOAT debate


7. Who’s the best player of all time?
(117 votes)

1. 
   
   
   • Michael Jordan (73%)
   • LeBron James (11.9%)
   • Kobe Bryant (10.6%)
   • Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (1.7%)
   • Magic Johnson, Allen Iverson, Kevin Durant (1%)

2019 poll of current NBA players

and thats 2019 where most players didnt even play against prime Kobe like that.....i'd figure LBJ would've been higher on a recent poll

 

[murksiderock]

First of all Chuck got to play most of his career with either multiple Famers, stacked rosters, or both. So the fact that so many of you feed into his bashing on "stacked Superteams" says everything we need to know about your knowledge of basketball history...

Charles Barkley is, and has been for years, clearly salty that he didn't win with any of his loaded rosters. And he should be, that's the competitor in him that'll never die, but it's inarguable this guy spent the bulk of his 16 years on loaded up squads or with multiple Famers. So he rely on hates this era because his squads weren't good enough in the end...

That, and the fact that he was 0-3 in the playoffs vs Mike. Is it a shocker he always blowing Mike's dikk as GOAT? He could never beat him when it mattered, even in years Mike's Bulls didn't win the title...

His bias is see-thru and So are you Anti-Bron's...

Didn’t Barkley go ring chasing with Houston

bruh thought he had an easy chip coming in

Barkley's tune would be different if he ever won with any of his several elite teams...

I honestly think this is what really burns Barkley's soul.

He sees Bron , KD etc. take control of their own destiny and win. The time he tried to it failed

Clearly lol...

In reality all real hoopers and basketball enthusiasts know MJ and Kobe are top 5 and Bron is just top 10. Brons “#2” status is and has always been some internet shyt. In real life even the Bron stans I know always admitted Kobe was better.

That’s why Kobe has the biggest worldwide fan base. Everyone from LA to London to Lagos identifies with how he played and dominated. Business execs across the world work vicariously through the Mamba Mentality. NFL and MLB players name Kobe as their standard over guys who actually played their sport.

like MJ, Kobe’s impact as an athlete is beyond basketball.

Get this fanatical shyt the fukk outta here lmao...

 

[murksiderock]

Nah, that was the biggest example. And it was Bron fans who originally started using Vegas odds as an excuse to justify his Finals L’s. So now we use the Vegas odds to prove he should’ve got to the Finals in the first Cavs stint.

He did get to The Finals during Round One in Cleveland...

WEIRD HOW U FAIL TO MENTION HE BROUGHT SUPERSTARS THERE WITH HIM

Neither Bosh nor Love were ever superstars, and furthermore and more importantly, the combo of Bosh, Love, Kyrie, and AD, had a combined 4 playoff berths in 23 combined seasons pre-LeBron, winning just one of those 4 series. This is a group of guys you dudes gas who never had any legacy of winning without him, these guys were putting numbers in on bad teams...

Wade had a winning legacy without Bron because he had another Top 10 GOAT next to him, his career without both Shaq and Bron shows us who he really was, in the Bosh/Kyrie/Love/Davis tier, except more like Davis, he wouldn't have done any high level winning but he and AD coulda been HOF-level players still because of talent. In and of himself he's no great winner....

Shaq and LeBron pre-Wade were big winners, their careers without Wade clearly shows he benefitted more from both of their presences than the other way around....

Bron been above kobe for a long time

At minimum a half-decade, the door was slammed shut on Kobe after the '16 Finals, a performance about 6 levels higher than Kobe's greatest hits, whichever series or game one wants to choose. And to be real most basketball heads had him over Bean well before '16, lest we forget there were people in real time taking Bron over Kobe when Bron had no rings to Kobe's 3, or 4, or 5...

 

[murksiderock]

This was posted in the other thread by @Rhakim, don't think he wanted to post the numbers since 2 and 3 were real close.


Anonymous poll of NBA players has LeBron far behind Jordan in GOAT debate



7. Who’s the best player of all time?

(117 votes)





Michael Jordan (73%)LeBron James (11.9%)Kobe Bryant (10.6%)Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (1.7%)Magic Johnson, Allen Iverson, Kevin Durant (1%)

2019 poll of current NBA players

You have guys who voted AI and Durant as GOAT, neither of which have a credible case. Kobe doesn't either, but his case more solid than AI's, but you're hanging your hat on a poll where people actually vote Iverson, in a league that built its present day popularity on doing everything it could to minimize every other GOAT in favor of sucking off Mike...

Go head and cook, fam lmao...

 

[10bandz]

He did get to The Finals during Round One in Cleveland...



Neither Bosh nor Love were ever superstars, and furthermore and more importantly, the combo of Bosh, Love, Kyrie, and AD, had a combined 4 playoff berths in 23 combined seasons pre-LeBron, winning just one of those 4 series. This is a group of guys you dudes gas who never had any legacy of winning without him, these guys were putting numbers in on bad teams...

Wade had a winning legacy without Bron because he had another Top 10 GOAT next to him, his career without both Shaq and Bron shows us who he really was, in the Bosh/Kyrie/Love/Davis tier, except more like Davis, he wouldn't have done any high level winning but he and AD coulda been HOF-level players still because of talent. In and of himself he's no great winner....

Shaq and LeBron pre-Wade were big winners, their careers without Wade clearly shows he benefitted more from both of their presences than the other way around....



At minimum a half-decade, the door was slammed shut on Kobe after the '16 Finals, a performance about 6 levels higher than Kobe's greatest hits, whichever series or game one wants to choose. And to be real most basketball heads had him over Bean well before '16, lest we forget there were people in real time taking Bron over Kobe when Bron had no rings to Kobe's 3, or 4, or 5...

u know what i meant im talkimg about 09 and 10.....no one holds 2007 against him

and no, "real basketball heads" were never taking Bron over Kobe, you nikkas just make up shyt . All the people taking Bron over Kobe "in real \time" when Bron had no rings were internet dorks and random nikkas dispersed around the country following that shyt and staying quiet in real life ball discussions

 

[JJ Lions]

You have guys who voted AI and Durant as GOAT, neither of which have a credible case. Kobe doesn't either, but his case more solid than AI's, but you're hanging your hat on a poll where people actually vote Iverson, in a league that built its present day popularity on doing everything it could to minimize every other GOAT in favor of sucking off Mike...

Go head and cook, fam lmao...

Your post made no sense. First, I'm not hanging my hat on 1 poll, it's just a poll stating the obvious, Jordan is GOAT.

Then you mention Iverson, Durant, it's literally 1%. You don't think 1% of current NBA players might think Durant is GOAT? You don't think it's possible 1% of NBA players, he's their favorite?

 

[Sccit]

Neither Bosh nor Love were ever superstars,

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[Ozymandeas]

Barkley just saying what most of these dudes thinking Stay butthurt though Bron Stans. Y’all gonna be butthurt for the next 50 years.

 

[Everythingg]

Shaq and LeBron pre-Wade were big winners,

How Bron a big winner pre Wade when he ain’t win shyt?

 

[smitty22]

Yall just 32 pages in ? Coli fallin off

 

[Majestic]

lebron has also won championships with 3 different team. something jordan and kobe aint do. he dont need to win 6 rings just so he can be mentioned alongside jordan. id argue winning a championship with 3 different teams is a bigger achievement than winning it 5 or 6 times with the same team. and i don't care how much finals lebron has lost.

 

[Dwight Howard]

lebron has also won championships with 3 different team. something jordan and kobe aint do. he dont need to win 6 rings just so he can be mentioned alongside jordan. id argue winning a championship with 3 different teams is a bigger achievement than winning it 5 or 6 times with the same team. and i don't care how much finals lebron has lost.

Not when you handpick stacked squads each time. It ain't like he going to teams and building from the ground up. He literally just goes to teams with assets so he can team up with other all-stars when his current team starts to fall off/can no longer contend. Left Cleveland for Miami to build a team he thought would win 6 or 7 rings with ease. Left Miami for Cleveland once Wade declined and they were strapped of assets. Then left Cleveland for LA once kyrie demanded out and he could no longer contend cause he stripped the team of assets with win-now moves. You see the pattern? How is that more impressive than a dude that guts it out with his team through thick and thin?

 

[Majestic]

Not when you handpick stacked squads each time. It ain't like he going to teams and building from the ground up. He literally just goes to teams with assets so he can team up with other all-stars when his current team starts to fall off/can no longer contend. Left Cleveland for Miami to build a team he thought would win 6 or 7 rings with ease. Left Miami for Cleveland once Wade declined and they were strapped of assets. Then left Cleveland for LA once kyrie demanded out and he could no longer contend cause he stripped the team of assets with win-now moves. You see the pattern? How is that more impressive than a dude that guts it out with his team through thick and thin?

listen great players often have stacked teams. lionel messi did very well when he had iniesta and xavi and neymar around him, ronaldo had kroos and modric to assist him. it's just how sports is. other great players can allow the star player to achieve phenomenal feats. all great players in history in team sports have had other great players around them. And he's smart for leaving teams when people around him are declining. why waste your prime trying to build others up which may take a long time, instead go to teams with already great players that will augment your skills.

that's like wanting messi to sign with eibar just so he can prove to everyone that he can build a team of mediocre players up. when he's already great stacked team or not. no great player can do everything themselves.

 

[Peruvian Connect]

First of all Chuck got to play most of his career with either multiple Famers, stacked rosters, or both. So the fact that so many of you feed into his bashing on "stacked Superteams" says everything we need to know about your knowledge of basketball history...

Charles Barkley is, and has been for years, clearly salty that he didn't win with any of his loaded rosters. And he should be, that's the competitor in him that'll never die, but it's inarguable this guy spent the bulk of his 16 years on loaded up squads or with multiple Famers. So he rely on hates this era because his squads weren't good enough in the end...

That, and the fact that he was 0-3 in the playoffs vs Mike. Is it a shocker he always blowing Mike's dikk as GOAT? He could never beat him when it mattered, even in years Mike's Bulls didn't win the title...

His bias is see-thru and So are you Anti-Bron's...



Barkley's tune would be different if he ever won with any of his several elite teams...



Clearly lol...



Get this fanatical shyt the fukk outta here lmao...

Word up. Mike Gminkski, Ben Coleman, Scott Brooks, Hersey Hawkins, Johnny Dawkins, Jeff Rulands Corpse. Them Sixers teams were loaded boy!!