Barkley Says LeBron Not Up There With Jordan and Kobe

[10bandz]

They were either All-Stars or not, it's not a debate. Were they All-Stars?

They were all stars on SHAQs team while Kobe was 19 and getting hated on by Del Harris. Those aren’t Kobe’s nikkas you can’t attribute Eddie Jones and NVE to Kobe when he coming off the bench and a teenager. The fukk was Kobe supposed to do with NVE and Eddie Jones you nikkas love leaving out context like I said the other four are fair game

 

[10bandz]

Good thing Jordan didn't hand pick none of them nikkas or he might have Zero rings, My nikka Ewing 2nd best player was John Starks all them years . Bron had to dip on Cle, him and Mo William's not beating Garnett,Pierce,Allen and Rondo.

Sources: Raptors would OK Bosh deal with Cavs

He could’ve stayed on the Cavs and had Chris Bosh and competed. Bosh said no cuz Bron already had the plan to team with Wade. If Bron wanted to he could e stayed in Cleveland and had a star teammate. Instead of recruiting Bosh to Cleveland he plotted with Wade and Bosh fell in line.

Kobe + Bosh in Cleveland beats the Celtics, magic, whoever.

 

[HabitualChiller]

Lebron most likely doesn't see that many Finals playing the Eastern Conference teams during the Jordan era. What I said earlier, when faced with real competition 4-6. The Eastern Conference was easy for Lebron, it was a weak conference. Any Bron stans actually disagree with that?

That depends on what team you put him on. If you put him on those late 80's-early 90's Cavs teams, then he would likely have a few rings. Big RIP to Jordan and the Bulls if you put that nikka on the Knicks or Heat

LeBron and Reggie Miller.

Putting Bron in Jordan's era never works out well because Bron is a Jack-of-all-trades that would be better in that era due to young-Bron's weakness (Zone defense) being outlawed. Bron would probably fukk around and average 28-32PPG on ultra-high efficiency (52+%), and that's with the league pace being much slower.

 

[JJ Lions]

They were all stars on SHAQs team while Kobe was 19 and getting hated on by Del Harris. Those aren’t Kobe’s nikkas you can’t attribute Eddie Jones and NVE to Kobe when he coming off the bench and a teenager. The fukk was Kobe supposed to do with NVE and Eddie Jones you nikkas love leaving out context like I said the other four are fair game

They're all on the same team.

Goes back to post #1:

“The reason I put Michael up there before those other guys. LeBron has stacked his teams. Let’s be realistic.”

True statement. Lebron's teams easily more stacked than Jordans. And easier path to the Finals compared to Jordan.

 

[TrapParis]

You dont become the GOAT, either you are or you aren't... The moment there is discussion about it you lose right to the goat status

 

[Osmosis]

Grant good player, Rodman good player. They weren't all-stars tho when playing on the Bulls.

And again, the Eastern Conference was a much tougher road during Jordan's years than Lebron's

Lebron won a championship by defeating 5 all-NBA players in 3 of his 4 championships. Jordan did that for 1 of his 6. Lebron played in a weak East but Jordan played in a weak league

In 2016, Lebron won without an All-NBA teammate. Jordan never did that in his career and neither did Kobe

 

[10bandz]

Lebron won a championship by defeating 5 all-NBA players in 3 of his 4 championships. Jordan did that for 1 of his 6. Lebron played in a weak East but Jordan played in a weak league

In 2016, Lebron won without an All-NBA teammate. Jordan never did that in his career and neither did Kobe

Disingenuous as hell

 

[JJ Lions]

Lebron won a championship by defeating 5 all-NBA players in 3 of his 4 championships. Jordan did that for 1 of his 6. Lebron played in a weak East but Jordan played in a weak league

In 2016, Lebron won without an All-NBA teammate. Jordan never did that in his career and neither did Kobe

Again, you like to pretend Lebron was all alone in those 4 championships, forget the other all-stars he was playing with. Forget Bosh, Wade, AD, Kyrie, Love..... And forget the 6 Finals losses. And in 2016 he had Kyrie and Love, did he not? Kyrie averaged 25 points in that series, more than Pippen averaged.

And whatever era you're playing in, you're playing against the best, it's the NBA. 6-0

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Not to mention the 2008 nba finals getting blown out by 40 and shooting 7-22 in the closeout game.

Elimination game against Jazz in 1998
Elimination game against Spurs in 2003
Elimination game against Pistons in 2004
Elimination game against Suns in 2006
Elimination game against Suns in 2007
Elimination game against Celtics in 2008
Elimination game against Mavs in 2011


Kobe was ass in so many elimination games and he had the nerve to say Bron looking bad on the biggest stage once disqualifies him.


Kobe's best Finals series performance wouldn't even make Bron's top-5.

 

[Ojinnocent420]

Sources: Raptors would OK Bosh deal with Cavs

He could’ve stayed on the Cavs and had Chris Bosh and competed. Bosh said no cuz Bron already had the plan to team with Wade. If Bron wanted to he could e stayed in Cleveland and had a star teammate. Instead of recruiting Bosh to Cleveland he plotted with Wade and Bosh fell in line.

Kobe + Bosh in Cleveland beats the Celtics, magic, whoever.

Sources: Raptors would OK Bosh deal with Cavs

He could’ve stayed on the Cavs and had Chris Bosh and competed. Bosh said no cuz Bron already had the plan to team with Wade. If Bron wanted to he could e stayed in Cleveland and had a star teammate. Instead of recruiting Bosh to Cleveland he plotted with Wade and Bosh fell in line.

Kobe + Bosh in Cleveland beats the Celtics, magic, whoever.

Bosh's Slight Another Blow To Lowly Cleveland

Kobe ain't winning nothing with Mike Brown coaching, we all know that. Big difference between Los Angeles, Chicago and Cleveland. Only way back then Bron was winning in Cleveland is if they luck up and got a few number one picks or if they got a fortunate break Like Giannis did this year and Garnett & Kobe were hurt during the post season or something

Lebron career is graded the same way Floyd Mayweather's career is graded, it's always a "but" added to the accomplishments.

 

[10bandz]

Elimination game against Jazz in 1998
Elimination game against Spurs in 2003
Elimination game against Pistons in 2004
Elimination game against Suns in 2006
Elimination game against Suns in 2007
Elimination game against Celtics in 2008
Elimination game against Mavs in 2011


Kobe was ass in so many elimination games and he had the nerve to say Bron looking bad on the biggest stage once disqualifies him.


Kobe's best Finals series performance wouldn't even make Bron's top-5.

This nikka said 1998 when Kobe came off the bench and played 18 minutes

the airballs were in 1997 goofy and he was 18….and the only game we won that series rookie Kobe was the leading scorer

 

[Professor Emeritus]

This nikka said 1998 when Kobe came off the bench and played 18 minutes

the airballs were in 1997 goofy and he was 18….

Sorry about the typo, you knew I mean '97 not '98.

Was that your only response to Kobe sucking ass in elimination games in '03, '04, '06, '07, '08, and '11 too?


And you completely ignored that Kobe's best Finals series doesn't even make Bron's top-5.

 

[10bandz]

Bosh's Slight Another Blow To Lowly Cleveland

Kobe ain't winning nothing with Mike Brown coaching, we all know that. Big difference between Los Angeles, Chicago and Cleveland. Only way back then Bron was winning in Cleveland is if they luck up and got a few number one picks or if they got a fortunate break Like Giannis did this year and Garnett & Kobe were hurt during the post season or something

Lebron career is graded the same way Floyd Mayweather's career is graded, it's always a "but" added to the accomplishments.

Bron Wade and Bosh had it planned out for years that’s why Bosh fronted on Cleveland. If Bron was committed to Cleveland he could’ve recruited a star

Kobe and Bosh win with Mike Brown no problem. shyt Kobe would’ve won with MB in 2012 but the owners rejected the CP3 trade cuz that’s how scared they were of Kobe

 

[JJ Lions]

Again, you like to pretend Lebron was all alone in those 4 championships, forget the other all-stars he was playing with. Forget Bosh, Wade, AD, Kyrie, Love..... And forget the 6 Finals losses. And in 2016 he had Kyrie and Love, did he not? Kyrie averaged 25 points in that series, more than Pippen averaged.

And whatever era you're playing in, you're playing against the best, it's the NBA. 6-0

Just did a quick check, Pippen was averaging under 20 during the Playoffs in the years they won the Finals. That's Jordan's other All-Star. Lebron's 2nds were averaging more.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Again, you like to pretend Lebron was all alone in those 4 championships, forget the other all-stars he was playing with. Forget Bosh, Wade, AD, Kyrie, Love..... And forget the 6 Finals losses.

And whatever era you're playing in, you're playing against the best, it's the NBA. 6-0

How can you say teammate quality matters but opponent quality doesn't? You realize that's disingenuous as hell, right?

Bron and MJ both had to put up similar performances to win their titles. And Bron and MJ both were putting up huge #'s while still getting beat by dominant teams when they weren't winning titles. The only big difference is that MJ only had to face the Celtics and Pistons and then didn't face another dominant team for his entire prime (unless you count the Magic who beat him in '95 before succumbing to injuries in '96). Whereas Bron had to face an entire string of dominant title teams across his entire career with the Pistons, Spurs, Celtics, and then Warriors.


Kobe's career doesn't even come close to comparing cause on his teams he never once had to put up Bron/MJ quality performances to win.