Beanie Sigel featuring Jay-Z - It's On

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I think its revisionist to say Beans dropped the ball

What exactly was Beans gonna do? He don't have the personality traits required to crossover like Jay, has never shown any interest in business etc

He is widely considered a HipHop legend with at least one universal classic album

Why is his career considered some missed opportunity or failed potential - how much bigger could he be than he was
 

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I think its revisionist to say Beans dropped the ball

What exactly was Beans gonna do? He don't have the personality traits required to crossover like Jay, has never shown any interest in business etc

He is widely considered a HipHop legend with at least one universal classic album

Why is his career considered some missed opportunity or failed potential - how much bigger could he be than he was

Nah.

I remember in real time when Jay was doing MTV's My Diary episode when he was getting visibly and vocally angry about Sigel's inability to just go to a club and not start some shyt. He was addressing the issue on songs at that time as well.

It took Jay a long time to crossover especially compared to rappers who were significantly younger than him. If anything, his crossover appeal is what is being revised here. Jay paid more dues than most so when he finally got the ball, he didn't take it for granted which made for some good decisions which made for some smart decisions but also for a level of artistic compromise.

Also Hov enjoys this myth that he did all on his own when he actually had Biggs, Dame, Irv, and Lyor helping him on the business end. Sigel by his own admission said he came in the majors basically overnight more so out of luck than paying dues.

He didn't know what to do with it. Jay on the other time was often too calculating and too careful. In terms of the work, there's pros and cons to each method or lack thereof.
 
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He did.

Or at least out did him.

Beans tends to when he's doing a track with Hov.

Name drop Ferris Bueller decades later.

Impress Matthew Brodrick's kids.

Though due to age range, it tracks.

Jay's last verse was the best on the track. Stop. :pachaha:
 

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You can tell nikkas was going straight off the head with this

Love this song....1st heard this shyt on dipset mixtape vol 4 I think
Yup that was my first time hearing it too. As much as I loved that mixtape once I heard this track that shyt was on repeat for a couple days. One of the sickest beats I've heard and then both of them floated on it.
 

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I'm just giving out daps and reps in this thread. Love this fukking song.

Because he doesn't have 3 classics in a row. He has 2 OK albums with classic tracks, and one really good-to-great album in B.Coming

B.Coming is a great album, maybe a classic. Damn near flawless

It’s a personal classic of mine, but I think what keeps it from being a bonafide classic is 3-4 songs being out a LONG time before the album actually came out

Sig is in my top ten rappers ever, but his first 2 albums are only ok to slightly above average. B. Coming is a personal classic for me, but a good portion of the album was out well before it dropped, so I can understand if someone has it a couple notches down...but I'm trying think back, I don't think there was a weak song on that album. shyt was fire front to back. 02-05 Rocafella was putting out heat...
No duds and they had all the best producers in the game doing those Hov, Cam, Sig, Bleek, SP, Ye albums.

Hov really rolled the red carpet for Beans to be his heir

I’m still SICK Beans fumbled that golden opportunity. It’s over for him
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I think its revisionist to say Beans dropped the ball

What exactly was Beans gonna do? He don't have the personality traits required to crossover like Jay, has never shown any interest in business etc

He is widely considered a HipHop legend with at least one universal classic album

Why is his career considered some missed opportunity or failed potential - how much bigger could he be than he was

Nah.

I remember in real time when Jay was doing MTV's My Diary episode when he was getting visibly and vocally angry about Sigel's inability to just go to a club and not start some shyt. He was addressing the issue on songs at that time as well.

It took Jay a long time to crossover especially compared to rappers who were significantly younger than him. If anything, his crossover appeal is what is being revised here. Jay paid more dues than most so when he finally got the ball, he didn't take it for granted which made for some good decisions which made for some smart decisions but also for a level of artistic compromise.

Also Hov enjoys this myth that he did all on his own when he actually had Biggs, Dame, Irv, and Lyor helping him on the business end. Sigel by his own admission said he came in the majors basically overnight more so out of luck than paying dues.

He didn't know what to do with it. Jay on the other time was often too calculating and too careful. In terms of the work, there's pros and cons to each method or lack thereof.

Beans definitely dropped the ball. You can see Hov and Dame were trying to make it easy for him, and I won't say he wasn't trying...but Sig was too much of a street nikka. It's the problem with most Philly rappers, they want to be so authentic that everything that they say is the absolute truth. Beans really ran the streets, scrapped with nikkas, shot at cops, still sold drugs while making albums...he needed to fall back from that.

I absolutely believe Rick Ross is having the career Beanie should've had and Hov wanted him to have.

Great analysis...Jay not popping until he was 28 or so definitely made for smarter business moves. Sig had everyone trying to sign him. Straight up, I don't know why because I never heard him until after he was signed.
 
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