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I’d say get a demo version of fl studio to play around with

You can programme drums manually in the piano roll and they layout will help you visualise the breakdown between bars, beats, steps, etc

practice enough and you’ll be able to ‘see’ a drum pattern when you listening to it
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One trick you can use to create bounce with the hats, which is an art, and not a perfect science, is to vary the volume levels. You can select every other hat and turn the volume down to a certain level so the levels are alternating between each hat. Or you select random parts of the hi hat pattern and mess with levels for a more random variation. It’s a subtle technique that the ear won’t detect but can help create bounce
 

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New Yawk where I’m from / Bahston where I’m at
Im using Reason and an Akai MPK Mini 3.

Anyways I’m trying to I wouldn’t say recreate since I want to add my own spin on the drum programming.

Damn Timbaland snapped :wow:

I got the sample and decent drums too so I’m not using stock drums.

I understand kick starts on the 1 and goes to the 4 afterwards.
Snare on the 3.
When it comes to hi hats, even quantized it don’t sound tough. Sounds trash. Advice please.

Tag any producers please.



Try programming kicks and snares in a modified 3:2 clave pattern at 65 - kick on 1, 4, and 6, snare on 3 and 7. EDIT and hats following the kicks, transition from 1/32 to 1/16T to get that fast to slightly off slow transition
 
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One trick you can use to create bounce with the hats, which is an art, and not a perfect science, is to vary the volume levels. You can select every other hat and turn the volume down to a certain level so the levels are alternating between each hat. Or you select random parts of the hi hat pattern and mess with levels for a more random variation. It’s a subtle technique that the ear won’t detect but can help create bounce

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Levels.

I do this with all my drum sounds not just the hats. It takes away that robotic sound and makes the drums feel alive
 

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Try programming kicks and snares in a modified 3:2 clave pattern at 65 - kick on 1, 4, and 6, snare on 3 and 7. EDIT and hats following the kicks, transition from 1/32 to 1/16T to get that fast to slightly off slow transition
First thanks for your patience and dedication.

Does this I have to change the signature of 4/4?
130 is the bpm, idk how to change the bpm without fukking up the sample.
6 and 7 means do it on the next bar right? (2 and 3).
So kicks are 1/16T, what about snares?
 
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First thanks for your patience and dedication.

Does this I have to change the signature of 4/4?
130 is the bpm, idk how to change the bpm without fukking up the sample.
6 and 7 means do it on the next bar right? (2 and 3).
So kicks are 1/16T, what about snares?

it is a little confusing but keep 130 bpm and 4/4 signature, 8 beats over two bars - so yes, 6 and 7 on the second bar. The way it works out is the drums sounding in half time or 65. This is more or less the 3:2 clave which formed the basis for the NO bounce style and a lot of modern beats. And meant the hats on 1/32 for a beat then 1/16T for a beat.
 

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I mean it's hard to give you pointers without hearing what you got so far.

Based on what you said it seems like you gotta double the tempo and rebuild it. Also play with the velocity on drums. Hope that helps. Again, post what you got and we can give advice based on that.
 

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it is a little confusing but keep 130 bpm and 4/4 signature, 8 beats over two bars - so yes, 6 and 7 on the second bar. The way it works out is the drums sounding in half time or 65. This is more or less the 3:2 clave which formed the basis for the NO bounce style and a lot of modern beats. And meant the hats on 1/32 for a beat then 1/16T for a beat.
Ok so I did what you said.
Kick on 1, 4 and 6.
Snare on 3 and 6.
Hi hats on bar 1 it’s quantized to 1/32 and bar 2 quantized to 1/16T.
I don’t even hear the difference on the hi hats.
None of it sounds good.
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I mean it's hard to give you pointers without hearing what you got so far.

Based on what you said it seems like you gotta double the tempo and rebuild it. Also play with the velocity on drums. Hope that helps. Again, post what you got and we can give advice based on that.
Ok so I did what you said.
Kick on 1, 4 and 6.
Snare on 3 and 6.
Hi hats on bar 1 it’s quantized to 1/32 and bar 2 quantized to 1/16T.
I don’t even hear the difference on the hi hats.
None of it sounds good.
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I’m gonna take a break tonight out of frustration. Will continue tmrw, thank you everybody for the help
 

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Ok so I did what you said.
Kick on 1, 4 and 6.
Snare on 3 and 6.
Hi hats on bar 1 it’s quantized to 1/32 and bar 2 quantized to 1/16T.
I don’t even hear the difference on the hi hats.
None of it sounds good.
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The sample in timbos version is slightly chopped which adds to the bounce. If you chop it the same way your drums will land better. If you want to keep your sample as is, you probably have to come up with a different groove on the drums (imo)


Edit i relistened.its not chopped but different speed from yours i think
 
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The sample in timbos version is slightly chopped which adds to the bounce. If you chop it the same way your drums will land better. If you want to keep your sample as is, you probably have to come up with a different groove on the drums (imo)


Edit i relistened.its not chopped but different speed from yours i think
Ok I can take care of that. What about the drums?
 

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Ok I can take care of that. What about the drums?
Best way i could explain the drims is if you want to recreate the drums from timbo, you make the tempo double time.

For the hi hat, timbo goes 1-1-1-3-1-3/1-1-1-2-3-4 and starts on the one

Yours goes something like 2-3-4-1-2-3-4-1-2/2-3-4-1-2-3-4-1-2...

I don't know how to write notation but you have a different drum pattern.
 
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