Bed Wench immigrant & her racist “Zaddy” is reminiscing about the "sexual fun times" of slavery.

[HarlemHottie]

I'm not understanding how any of what you posted is evidence that any of these women wanted to have sexual intercourse with their owners. In almost every line it refers to the fact they were still slaves and were required to do work for no pay. They simply had a less harsh existence due the owner having some modicum of sympathy (albeit a very small amount) particularly for their children. No where does it say they picked what trade they were taught or what instrument they played, it was all dictated to them by the owner.

Freedom of choice is not being told if you have sex with me I might treat you and the resulting offspring a little better than I treat my other slaves.

I realize it's jarring to consider but I don't say these things lightly. Understand the extraordinary circumstances of not just Sally, which somewhat makes sense bc she was the master's concubine, but her entire extended family. Have you researched them? They all had lives that sound markedly different than the rest of Jefferson's slaves, much less slaves on other plantations. In a material sense, they did better than the majority of ADOS are doing today.

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For example, Sally's mother...

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Elizabeth Hemings occupied a single-room log house on the southern slope of Monticello mountain for the last decade of her life, when she was no longer an active member of the enslaved work force. She likely spent her time raising poultry, growing vegetables, and caring for young children. Archaeology indicates that she owned more than 30 pieces of Chinese and English ceramics, probably purchased in Charlottesville.

The Hemings Family | Thomas Jefferson's Monticello

Or her brother, John...

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After Hemmings became master craftsman of the Monticello Joinery,[5] he trained other slaves, including Thomas Jefferson's three sons by Sally Hemings. At the age of 14, Beverley, Madison and Eston each became apprenticed to Hemmings and learned to be highly skilled carpenters.[1][10]

Thomas Jefferson and John Hemmings developed a working relationship. They wrote letters to each other and shared drawings about woodworking and the work being done on both of Jefferson's houses; twelve of the letters survive.[5] Hemmings also informed Jefferson when Nace, a Poplar Forest slave, stole produce from the house garden.[5] Jefferson rewarded Hemmings with an annual bonus each year, beginning in 1811, of fifteen to twenty dollars, or about one month's wages.[2] When Jefferson became ill, Hemmings nursed him for two months and helped him to walk.[5]

On April 16, 1826, an ailing Thomas Jefferson prepared his will. In it, he stipulated that John Hemmings would be freed as of a year after his death, given all the tools of his trade, and gifted a life estate in a house and an acre of land, provided that he stayed close to his wife Priscilla and his likely next place of employment, the new University of Virginia.[3] Hemmings was one of five members of the Hemings family freed in Jefferson's will. Hemmings was also given the service of his two nephews and apprentices Madison and Eston Hemings until they turned twenty-one; as Madison was already of age when Jefferson penned his will, he was freed immediately upon Jefferson's death.[1]

Thomas Jefferson died on July 4, 1826. He was buried in a coffin that John Hemmings spent days, if not weeks, fashioning from wood he saved in the joinery for this purpose.[3] Jefferson's death made John Hemmings a free man at fifty-one years old.

Hemmings continued to live and work for wages at Monticello after Jefferson's death in 1826, until about 1831, when the house was sold.

John Hemings - Wikipedia

I can go on. These don't sound like victims to me. They were thriving. They don't even sound like slaves. They sound like collaborators. In case you don't believe me, though, here's a rather sordid tale of multi- generational enslaved concubines who I do consider victims.

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How two generations of concubines fared in their negotiations

For mother-daughter concubines Elizabeth Ramsey and Louisa Picquet, known to us through Picquet’s 1861 published narrative, the hurdles were formidable. Elizabeth, owned by the Randolph family of South Carolina, found her negotiating powers superseded by the financial and personal challenges of the white families she served. When she gave birth to James Randolph’s daughter Louisa, it did not take long for his white wife to figure out that the two-week-old baby looked like her husband. Elizabeth and Louisa were quickly sold.

Elizabeth, about 20 years old, then became concubine to her new owner, David Cook of Georgia, even though he too was married and had a family. Together, they produced three children. But after Cook incurred debts and lost his property, he sent his wife and children to live with relatives while he fled to Alabama with his concubine and her daughter. By the time Louisa was 14 years old, Cook forced himself on her. When she resisted, she suffered severe whippings. The family was separated and sold when Cook’s debts caught up with him. Ramsey tried to negotiate for them to be purchased together, but she and her son were sold to an enslaver from Texas, while Louisa went to a Mr. Williams of Louisiana.

Of the last goodbye, Louisa said her “Mother was right on her knees, with her hands up, prayin' to the Lord for me. She didn't care who saw her: the people all lookin' at her,” knowing she would likely never see her daughter again.

Mr. Williams, who was in his late 40s, let Louisa know right away that he intended to spend the rest of his life with her. She resisted and tried to negotiate with him, but he was relentless. Reflecting on this painful experience, she “wished he would sell me…because I had no peace at all. I rather die than live in that way.” But Williams “got awful mad and said nothin' but death should separate us; and, if I run off, he'd blow my brains out.” Louisa’s life with Williams was so miserable, she longed for her mother and prayed for his death.

When her second prayer was answered, she was freed and spent time trying to find her mother. Picquet moved to Ohio, married a mulatto man and became active in the church. She exchanged letters with her mother—who, she discovered, had been negotiating her own price so that Louisa could come to Texas and purchase her. In the first letter Louisa received, Elizabeth wrote: “Col. Horton would let you have me for 1000 dol. or a woman that could fill my place; I think you could get one cheaper where you are that would fill my place than to pay him the money; I am anxious to hav [sic] you to make this trade.” As negotiations continued, Louisa wrote directly to her mother’s enslaver, requesting he lower the price since Elizabeth was aging. He responded by telling Louisa that she had no bargaining power and that while Elizabeth was getting old, “she carries her age well, and looks as young as she did 20 years ago.” He did, however, volley back that he was willing to participate in a direct trade of “another [enslaved woman] of her quality and qualifications in her stead.”

For nearly two years, the mother-daughter duo continued negotiating with Elizabeth’s enslaver while Louisa went on a fundraising tour throughout Ohio and New York, seeking money to purchase her mother. At one point, Horton lowered Elizabeth’s price to $900, but both women were heartbroken to learn that Louisa’s brother John and Elizabeth’s husband were not for sale. In the end, Louisa successfully completed the transaction and purchased her mother. The two were elated to be together, but disappointed that the family was not intact.

https://www.history.com/news/slavery-negotiations-freedom-concubines-thomas-jefferson-sally-hemings

It's important, in the #metoo era, to be honest with ourselves about relationships between men in power and the women under their control. Those women have varying degrees of agency. Many slave women resisted. Many were sold any ol kinda way, or had their kids sold in wretched public scenes. My original thesis was that the entire Hemmings family was 'special' in some way and I've proven it several times over. I could lay out more, but I think that's enough for TLR.
Ofc they didn't pick the instrument; they were taught the instrument their father played.

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

In Fairfax near GMU.

Most of the black people in fairfax county are of foreign origin and/or there to be around white people. If you lived in PG you'd be saying something.

 

[sanityovar8ted]

Your customers probably have requested this from you

No they have not plus im retired

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

I realize it's jarring to consider but I don't say these things lightly. Understand the extraordinary circumstances of not just Sally, which somewhat makes sense bc she was the master's concubine, but her entire extended family. Have you researched them? They all had lives that sound markedly different than the rest of Jefferson's slaves, much less slaves on other plantations. In a material sense, they did better than the majority of ADOS are doing today.

Spoiler

For example, Sally's mother...

Or her brother, John...

I can go on. These don't sound like victims to me. They were thriving. They don't even sound like slaves. They sound like collaborators. In case you don't believe me, though, here's a rather sordid tale of multi- generational enslaved concubines who I do consider victims.

It's important, in the #metoo era, to be honest with ourselves about relationships between men in power and the women under their control. Those women have varying degrees of agency. Many slave women resisted. Many were sold any ol kinda way, or had their kids sold in wretched public scenes. My original thesis was that the entire Hemmings family was 'special' in some way and I've proven it several times over. I could lay out more, but I think that's enough for TLR.
Ofc they didn't pick the instrument; they were taught the instrument their father played.

Quiet as kept there's an elephant in the room related that would shatter perceptions, but...I'mma leave it.
Hint: That same class of women also make up most of white people's favorite slavery talking point, despite there being evidence of subversion within said practice.

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

I realize it's jarring to consider but I don't say these things lightly. Understand the extraordinary circumstances of not just Sally, which somewhat makes sense bc she was the master's concubine, but her entire extended family. Have you researched them? They all had lives that sound markedly different than the rest of Jefferson's slaves, much less slaves on other plantations. In a material sense, they did better than the majority of ADOS are doing today.

Spoiler

For example, Sally's mother...

Or her brother, John...

I can go on. These don't sound like victims to me. They were thriving. They don't even sound like slaves. They sound like collaborators. In case you don't believe me, though, here's a rather sordid tale of multi- generational enslaved concubines who I do consider victims.

It's important, in the #metoo era, to be honest with ourselves about relationships between men in power and the women under their control. Those women have varying degrees of agency. Many slave women resisted. Many were sold any ol kinda way, or had their kids sold in wretched public scenes. My original thesis was that the entire Hemmings family was 'special' in some way and I've proven it several times over. I could lay out more, but I think that's enough for TLR.
Ofc they didn't pick the instrument; they were taught the instrument their father played.

If breh is "progressive" you just wasted time speaking facts and presenting info to him like you would a man. Think "ballroom" and go on from there.

 

[HarlemHottie]

Quiet as kept there's an elephant in the room related that would shatter perceptions, but...I'mma leave it.
Hint: That same class of women also make up most of white people's favorite slavery talking point, despite there being evidence of subversion within said practice.

 

[HarlemHottie]

If breh is "progressive" you just wasted time speaking facts and presenting info to him like you would a man. Think "ballroom" and go on from there.

But I'm not trying to change is mind. This is for the rest of yall. I had to figure the shyt out on my own. The whole thing is really an object lesson on the potential future of our race. Bw (and men) are making these very same decisions today with much the same logic.

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

But I'm not trying to change is mind. This is for the rest of yall. I had to figure the shyt out on my own. The whole thing is really an object lesson on the potential future of our race. Bw (and men) are making these very same decisions today with much the same logic.

Hence the ballroom.
A lot of brehs all up in THEIR video, being "here for it", "dragging", and "reading"...
A shift has occurred. The mainstream breh population infected itself with weirdo subculture to prove how "in tune" they are.
How did this happen

 

[HarlemHottie]

A shift has occurred. The mainstream breh population infected itself with weirdo subculture to prove how "in tune" they are.
How did this happen

I see it, breh.

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(as I was typing this, TBA said "They're trying to destroy our warrior class.")

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

I see it, breh.

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(as I was typing this, TBA said "They're trying to destroy our warrior class.")

Synchronicity.

 

[Akae Beka]

Most of the black people in fairfax county are of foreign origin and/or there to be around white people. If you lived in PG you'd be saying something.

lol Breh, I knew this was coming. So I guess you know more than what I've seen, witnessed Theyre plenty of AA with big money in Fairfax. Plenty of black government workers, IT business owners etc. Years ago I worked at Northrup Grumman, a lot of the top guns were honourable African Americans from fairfax or the county. Even the white chic, who was secretary to the CEO, had a baby with Rayful Edmonds brother. Shyt, Jordan use to have a house here when he was running operations with the Wizards.
There are foreigners no doubt who swirl but the most of the black foreigner who live in the county live areas like falls church or route one Alexandria which I dont live. Northern Va is generally known to be swirl central. I dont judge, do you, but just be aware that people of all backgrounds do mostly everything everyone else does

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

lol Breh, I knew this was coming. So I guess you know more than what I've seen, witnessed Theyre plenty of AA with big money in Fairfax. Plenty of black government workers, IT business owners etc. Years ago I worked at Northrup Grumman, a lot of the top guns were honourable African Americans from fairfax or the county. Even the white chic, who was secretary to the CEO, had a baby with Rayful Edmonds brother. Shyt, Jordan use to have a house here when he was running operations with the Wizards.
There are foreigners no doubt who swirl but the most of the black foreigner who live in the county live areas like falls church or route one Alexandria which I dont live. Northern Va is generally known to be swirl central. I dont judge, do you, but just be aware that people of all backgrounds do mostly everything everyone else does

This is true.

 

[Donny]

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[UberEatsDriver]

nah she definitely fukks with white boys.

No such thing as "tried" to get with her.

They DID get with her and probably fukked which is why they were comfortable enough to even express their feelings about black dikks.

She probably lied to them too and said there's no difference. The bw who don't fukk with cacs, have no interaction with them about sexual shyt.

The bed wenches I fukked, try to down play white boys to me, "they're possessive, insecure, smaller dikks etc", but that doesn't stop them from dating wm. The whiteness makes up for all of that.

Well she’s with me, and secondly she’s an engineer. Barely any black people in her field. Her ex man who she was with for 5 years was black.

The father of her son is black man from Trinidad



Also white men tend to be thirsty for black women on a sexual level. White people in general fetishize black folks so it actually didn’t surprise me that a white man asked her this question.

Idk what your definition of fukking with whiteboys is, but my definition of fukking with whiteboys is having them as a preference first and consistently dating them.

I don’t even consider having sex with a whiteboy as “fukking with whiteboys” cause humans are curious and will always fukk around and have sex with someone that is not their ethnic group or racial group.

 

[xoxodede]

I realize it's jarring to consider but I don't say these things lightly. Understand the extraordinary circumstances of not just Sally, which somewhat makes sense bc she was the master's concubine, but her entire extended family. Have you researched them? They all had lives that sound markedly different than the rest of Jefferson's slaves, much less slaves on other plantations. In a material sense, they did better than the majority of ADOS are doing today.

Spoiler

For example, Sally's mother...

Or her brother, John...

I can go on. These don't sound like victims to me. They were thriving. They don't even sound like slaves. They sound like collaborators. In case you don't believe me, though, here's a rather sordid tale of multi- generational enslaved concubines who I do consider victims.

It's important, in the #metoo era, to be honest with ourselves about relationships between men in power and the women under their control. Those women have varying degrees of agency. Many slave women resisted. Many were sold any ol kinda way, or had their kids sold in wretched public scenes. My original thesis was that the entire Hemmings family was 'special' in some way and I've proven it several times over. I could lay out more, but I think that's enough for TLR.
Ofc they didn't pick the instrument; they were taught the instrument their father played.

No sis.

First -- she was not a woman.

Sally was a underage girl when this man was raping her. And his late wives half-sister.

That little girl did not WANT to sleep with him NOR did she have a choice. They claim she had a choice when he took her out the country. She didn't -- she wanted to be with her family -- and the only way to do so is continue being raped and enslaved.

And even though her children got treated a little better -- there still were enslaved - and he still treated his children like shyt/slaves. He kept them enslaved till they turned a certain age --- and it's not like they got anything when they were freed. Other than being able to pass for White for many.

Who cares what her mom owned or anyone else -- she was enslaved too...

They are doing better -- cause many went on and passed for White and married White -- therefore they are White. MANY of them. Sally was a quarter Black.

You need to read Annette Gordon-Reed's book -- she is the premier scholar on Jefferson and Sally Hemings.