Beli not calling timeout when Seatle was on the goaline

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Seattle definitely was expecting a Pats timeout there , everyone was

all the sudden the Hawks had 25 seconds left on the clock and the script was flipped

Hawks thought NE was going to make that TD easy on them ... NOPE

I agree that Seattle was expecting NE to call a timeout, but I don't see why that would've made them panic. 25 seconds and one (or 2?) timeouts is more than enough time. Time wasn't an issue.

I think Beli is a great coach, but I don't think he was playing mind tricks with Seattle, I think he was showing faith in his D.
 
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Brady carved up that defense on short, quick passes

that shyt wasnt going to get them into FG range with 40 seconds left and no timeouts

Beli knew they wouldnt be able to throw down field and stop the clock like they needed too


Wait, so if you see this, why are you questioning why Beli didn't take that timeout? :dwillhuh:
 

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Something caused Seattle to get out of character, and yes, I think Beli not calling a timeout threw them off

It definitely felt like a contributing factor

that clock ran down from 1 min to 25 seconds REAL quick

These nikkas was down 12 with 5 minutes left two weeks ago and their QB had just thrown his 4th pick of the day and they didn't get out of character or thrown off and kept running the ball. They ran the ball with BeastMode on the next play after Beli didn't call the time out. If they were so thrown they would have thrown it then. If Lynch scores on that play, which he damn near did, it's ":mindblown: What was Beli thinking? Why didn't he take the timeout there and give his team some time? Has Beli lost it?". I hate this circumstantial :skip:esque, "everything the winner did was some masterstroke" analysis. If anything threw them, it was the fact that my man actually made the catch and they went from trying to figure out how to get the ball down field to "Oh shyt we are right here" in a matter of seconds with the play clock running. But like I said they ran the ball with Lynch on the next play just like normal.
 

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These nikkas was down 12 with 5 minutes left two weeks ago and their QB had just thrown his 4th pick of the day and they didn't get out of character or thrown off and kept running the ball. They ran the ball with BeastMode on the next play after Beli didn't call the time out. If they were so thrown they would have thrown it then. If Lynch scores on that play, which he damn near did, it's ":mindblown: What was Beli thinking? Why didn't he take the timeout there and give his team some time? Has Beli lost it?". I hate this circumstantial :skip:esque, "everything the winner did was some masterstroke" analysis. If anything threw them, it was the fact that my man actually made the catch and they went from trying to figure out how to get the ball down field to "Oh shyt we are right here" in a matter of seconds with the play clock running. But like I said they ran the ball with Lynch on the next play just like normal.

Seattle called a TO after the catch though, they caught their bearings and made the right call rushing with Marshawn ... they were feeling comfortable and thought NE would call a timeout

Im not saying it was a masterstoke move, it just worked out to look that way

Either way, Beli betting on his defense and not praying Brady could get into FG range with 40 seconds and no timeouts WAS great coaching / decision making

Higher probability of the defense getting stops than the offense connecting on a big play against that defense
 

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Seattle called a TO after the catch though, they caught their bearings and made the right call rushing with Marshawn ... they were feeling comfortable and thought NE would call a timeout

Im not saying it was a masterstoke move, it just worked out to look that way

Either way, Beli betting on his defense and not praying Brady could get into FG range with 40 seconds and no timeouts WAS great coaching

Higher probability of the defense getting stops than the offense connecting on a big play against that defense

And that's my point. If Seattle runs it in with Lynch or Wilson or even if they complete that pass then it looks completely different so how about we just call it what it is? :ld: shyt just worked out for the Pats. They played well and they were fortunate...both things can be true. It's not like he had a whole lot of options at that point.
 

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Herm Edwards said if they run a read option to the left side of the field Wilson walks in the endzone.
 

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And that's my point. If Seattle runs it in with Lynch or Wilson or even if they complete that pass then it looks completely different so how about we just call it what it is? :ld: shyt just worked out for the Pats. They played well and they were fortunate...both things can be true.
I feel you on all of this

I wouldnt have shyt on Beli if Seattle won and he explained he made the decision to ride the game on his defense rather than praying for a big play on offense with 40 seconds on no timeouts

He made a very good judgement call with the stakes the highest and the clock running with less than a minute to go

I will give him credit for that

If the Pats call a timeout, I think Seattle assess the situation more clearly and they run the ball there
 

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I feel you on all of this

I wouldnt have shyt on Beli if Seattle won and he explained he made the decision to ride the game on his defense rather than praying for a big play on offense with 40 seconds on no timeouts

He made a very good judgement call with the stakes the highest and the clock running with less than a minute to go

I will give him credit for that

If the Pats call a timeout, I think Seattle assess the situation more clearly and they run the ball there

That's the thing, what is there to assess? You have the best active short yardage back in the league. You have a dynamic runner at QB. You only threw the ball 20 times all game and were at the bottom of the league in pass attempts per game. And you are on the one yd line with 30 sec left. They needed the Pats to take a timeout in order to do what they have done all season...for the last 3 seasons really?

Beli had two options....call the timeout or save the timeout. There is something to be said for either choice and people would be finding a way to herald him as a genius for either choice after a win.
 

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That's the thing, what is there to assess? You have the best active short yardage back in the league. You have a dynamic runner at QB. You only threw the ball 20 times all game and were at the bottom of the league in pass attempts per game. And you are on the one yd line with 30 sec left. They needed the Pats to take a timeout in order to do what they have done all season...for the last 3 seasons really?

Beli had two options....call the timeout or save the timeout. There is something to be said for either choice and people would be finding a way to herald him as a genius for either choice after a win.
Yes, I really do believe Seattle assess the situation differently if the Pats call a timeout there and slows down the final minute

If the Pats call a timeout with 45-50 seconds left .. its 2nd down on the 2 yard line, Seattle still has a timeout, and I believe they run the ball

Thats just me :yeshrug:
 

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Maybe he was thinking if they scored they needed to timeout for when the offense gets the ball back.
 

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That's the thing, what is there to assess? You have the best active short yardage back in the league. You have a dynamic runner at QB. You only threw the ball 20 times all game and were at the bottom of the league in pass attempts per game. And you are on the one yd line with 30 sec left. They needed the Pats to take a timeout in order to do what they have done all season...for the last 3 seasons really?

Beli had two options....call the timeout or save the timeout. There is something to be said for either choice and people would be finding a way to herald him as a genius for either choice after a win.


word seattle was scared to run it with marshawn because the pats didn't call timeout:beli:
 

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Yes, I really do believe Seattle assess the situation differently if the Pats call a timeout there and slows down the final minute

If the Pats call a timeout with 45-50 seconds left .. its 2nd down on the 2 yard line, Seattle still has a timeout, and I believe they run the ball

Thats just me :yeshrug:

I respectfully disagree :manny:. I just don't think time or timeouts is an issue for the team that has the ball on the 1 with less than a minute to go. Certainly not an issue to the point where you abandon the philosophy that has gotten you to this point and try to transform into the Broncos in an instant.
 
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