Ben Simmons to have back surgery: Per Shams: Out 3 months will be available to start training camp.

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This is a common piece of rhetoric but how do you suppose this gets “prevented” in the next CBA... The situations are all a little different to begin with but we never hear the supposed solution from people claiming to be collective bargaining prognosticators
Stipulations that pay is tied to time on the court and preventing someone from getting paid and not playing absent an injury
 

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Stipulations that pay is tied to time on the court and preventing someone from getting paid and not playing absent an injury
Owners/Front Offices can already do that with any contract during negotiations so I'm not sure I get why the league would need to shut down for something they can already implement currently ..thats the exact kind of deal Joel Embiid had coming off of his foot problems.. And the same deal many speculate Zion will have offered to him by the pelicans.. Its literally already a thing... additionally how would that stop what Harden was alleged of doing? In your supposed fix..whats to stop a guy from suiting up and playing like shyt on purpose just so he passes the games played/in uniform clause:patrice:


Now if you're talking about that kind of games played language being unilaterally implemented without any actual just cause that would essentially be removing the guarantee in a guaranteed contract something that the NBAPA prides itself on as opposed to the NFLPA and additionally who would be determining what constitutes an “injury”??certainly couldn't be the team doctors as that conflict of interest would clearly violate any fair labor negotiation practices..so now you're left with an arbiter...which.... You guessed it...they already have this is what Ben is currently going through with the 6ers... His case is being brought to an independent arbiter to be judged...


There seems to be this fantasy that owners will ever be able to say that a player is faking an injury without having that proven independently... We’ll see tho...one of us will be right in a few months
 

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No it won't. The split will be about the same and the cap is gonna jump like crazy with the new TV deal. By the time Luka is extension eligible he will get like 5 for 450. The NBA is looking for 75 billion up from 25 billion currently with Amazon, Google, and Apple waiting to get in the game

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Yeah it will, owners are watching this story and will look to prevent future Ben Simmons no matter how high the cap goes

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Don't see how he'll get that money back either way lol.

He wasn't "injured" during the time he was a Sixer, Nets doctors somehow cleared him so he was physically fit to play basketball according to them and him, and these back problems didn't become a thing until the playoffs.
 

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Don't see how he'll get that money back either way lol.

He wasn't "injured" during the time he was a Sixer, Nets doctors somehow cleared him so he was physically fit to play basketball according to them and him, and these back problems didn't become a thing until the playoffs.

Not to mention the fact that he insinuated to Philly on more than one occasion that it was the mental issues that kept him from seeing the floor and not the back injury. One of this situations of where his previous comments could come back to hurt his argument.
 
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He ain't coming back till 2023 :heh:

Crazy thing is that I'm still holding a tiny bit of hope. Stay tuned good folks.
 

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This is a common piece of rhetoric but how do you suppose this gets “prevented” in the next CBA... The situations are all a little different to begin with but we never hear the supposed solution from people claiming to be collective bargaining prognosticators

Stronger policies to insure there is no back-n-forth of being out with determining whether it's paid or unpaid. All companies have such policies. Currently, there's the fine/suspensions for contract detrimental stuff like that..and everything else is pretty much on the honor system. With Ben, they had to pretty much establish ultimatums before they could dock him, which is how he was able to keep delaying his return. There's been plenty of issues like this, these are just the most current, but you pretty much always get your money, with very few anomalies. They are going to take measures to ensure that if you're cleared to play, you suit up, and anything else outside of conditional family emergency is an unpaid day. That will tighten this up. Bynum was another that went that route. Hell, it happened with AI his last go round in Philly. He used the his daughter was sick, so he rushed to be with her..and was granted leave from the team. Tawana came out like - He hasn't seen her in months, and she's been healthy for a while now. It turned out this was during his heavy drinking period, and he truly went MIA, so eventually he was waived, but he was paid for that entire time being out.
 

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how did he pass the physical for the trade if he's actually injured?

I'm still calling bullshyt. he ain't hurt.

Gotta see the lie all the way through at this point. He just trying to get dem checks he missed. Him and Klutch need to be ashamed of themselves
 

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somebody save this man

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shoulda never left the Dubs :yeshrug:

Shoulda just embraced the villain role.

listen to the fans and people yapping....and you end up being right wit em.
 
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