Benny the Butcher - Tana Talk 4 (Discussion Thread)

[Khadafi1982]

I’m not saying you gotta rank him higher. I get your point. It’s a fair one. He’s in my top 5.

My main point is that in 1993-1997 it was objectively easier to make fake changing and pioneer groundbreaking level shyt like what RZA was doing. 30 years later almost every sound and style has been done.

It’s so much harder to break new ground in 2022. Madlib and Alc are doing about a good job as any producer can do.

I need you to explain this statement that "it was objectively easier to make fake changing and pioneer groundbreaking level shyt like what RZA was doing".
If we apply the law of averages the proportion of producers that are ground breaking should be the same throughout hip hop history, if we consider 5-10 periods. Even with the easy access to beatmaking software.
I think that these new sounds/techniques get lost in the sheer amount of music you are exposed to. I am not up on the new trends but when I heard that Pop smoke "Welcome to the party", I knew that the beat making technique was different and groundbreaking as I have never heard anything like that before.

 

[DaveyDave]

You got Bang for that, and look what he did with it. Had to get super technical to make himself look cool. If he’s gonna do that rappity shyt to these beats it’s better he stays off them. The last alchemist beat he rapped on he was talking about playing dikk swords with the Jonas brothers

i wish something would happen where Em would just chill the fukk out and make some songs instead of just trying to spaz out on EVERY verse and not caring about content or riding the beat or anything else he just tries to squeeze as many forced multis and corny punchlines into a quadruple time flow as possible.

 

[FunkDoc1112]

I will say, I would love to hear Eminem over beats like these. How does he have a relationship with Alc and can't make a lil 6 song mixtape

Man get off Marshall's dikk already. He would spit his usual Inspector Gadget ass bullshyt.

 

[DaveyDave]

I need you to explain this statement that "it was objectively easier to make fake changing and pioneer groundbreaking level shyt like what RZA was doing".
If we apply the law of averages the proportion of producers that are ground breaking should be the same throughout hip hop history, if we consider 5-10 periods. Even with the easy access to beatmaking software.
I think that these new sounds/techniques get lost in the sheer amount of music you are exposed to. I am not up on the new trends but when I heard that Pop smoke "Welcome to the party", I knew that the beat making technique was different and groundbreaking as I have never heard anything like that before.

There’s nothing groundbreaking about that beat I’m listening to it right now. It’s just different for the US. A bunch of cats have tried to bring that garage/drum&bass/grime style to the states for decades now but it never caught on until UK Drill starting poppin off. Thumbs up to Pop for using this style but it’s not that groundbreaking outside of the US.

 

[BK The Great]

i wish something would happen where Em would just chill the fukk out and make some songs instead of just trying to spaz out on EVERY verse and not caring about content or riding the beat or anything else he just tries to squeeze as many forced multis and corny punchlines into a quadruple time flow as possible.

He had some moments with his last album but the beats ain’t all that as much

 

[AAKing23]

Had to quit blazin' cigarettes
Was two-timin' my dame, I'm a bigamist
But the gang half of the blame, I live with regret
My brain a bit of a wreck
All this stress and strain left a disconnect
Cheffin' up all the 'caine in that kitchenette
Acquainted with big execs who filthied up my name just to split a check
Feel like I been betrayed by my silhouette
Mistakes was made to correct
How I deal with the fame made me get upset
Treat it the same way that I lived with death, shyt weighin' a nikka down
Refrainin' from different stages of self-neglect
Give me chills in my veins, takin' whatever's left
From everything that was tooken in blatant disrespect
For good, better, best, wouldn't trade it for less
Took everything that came with it, and that came with a check
But yet and still a nikka rich off pain and depressed
Chasin' a letterhead, ain't got a case to catch
David Blaine with the press, tame the dog and made it fetch
What else?

Effortless

Disgusting bruh

 

[Dolo]

Why Tyson vs Ali sound like a Biscotti Biscuits remix?

One of my favorite Conway songs

 

[DaveyDave]

He had some moments with his last album but the beats ain’t all that as much

he has the perfect opportunity on the EPMD remix to show that he could still do that style. Ride the beat instead of trying to flow to the hi hats.

But I’ll leave it there, I’m not here to side track a Benny thread

 

[Ty-Fife]

Vinyl

Benny The Butcher - Tana Talk 4 Vinyl

Copped off principle

 

[Stone]

Why Tyson vs Ali sound like a Biscotti Biscuits remix?

Surprised nobody immediately thought of this one from Curren$y when that one came on


pretty much the same beat

 

[BK The Great]

he has the perfect opportunity on the EPMD remix to show that he could still do that style. Ride the beat instead of trying to flow to the hi hats.

But I’ll leave it there, I’m not here to side track a Benny thread

He went too technical on that song. But it was already a uptempo track so he had no choice.

 

[BlackMagnus514]

10 More Commandments is fukking insane. Like next level drug rap. Excellent beat.

 

[Aquarius Snake]

Surprised nobody immediately thought of this one from Curren$y when that one came on


pretty much the same beat

I have this track on my Jet Life playlist and didn’t even think of that. Good point.



Now I gotta make a new playlist around these 3 tracks. Might throw them bytches on the Stem Player.

 

[Pack2]

Had to quit blazin' cigarettes
Was two-timin' my dame, I'm a bigamist
But the gang half of the blame, I live with regret
My brain a bit of a wreck
All this stress and strain left a disconnect
Cheffin' up all the 'caine in that kitchenette
Acquainted with big execs who filthied up my name just to split a check
Feel like I been betrayed by my silhouette
Mistakes was made to correct
How I deal with the fame made me get upset
Treat it the same way that I lived with death, shyt weighin' a nikka down
Refrainin' from different stages of self-neglect
Give me chills in my veins, takin' whatever's left
From everything that was tooken in blatant disrespect
For good, better, best, wouldn't trade it for less
Took everything that came with it, and that came with a check
But yet and still a nikka rich off pain and depressed
Chasin' a letterhead, ain't got a case to catch
David Blaine with the press, tame the dog and made it fetch
What else?

Effortless

When that verse ended I just sat back like

Where we at?....

 

[dizzy4111]

Don't know how the fukk they did it but this better than TT3

This is top tier Griselda