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Bernie and the Black Vote
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You can do that without blanketing the entire first page in Bernie Sanders deserves this, Bernie Sanders deserves that and etc.
Disgusting how the black vote is so easily gained...No way that the black community should blindly support Hillary the way they do especially after the campaign she ran in 08...this is one of the things that bothers me the most about this election cycle
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They do sound just like how a
would try to shut down discussion they don't like. Could easily just up their own threads, but that anger and attack instinct. But no, they're not house negros.
Blacks are hardly "misinformed". The black vote has gotten every presidential hopeful right for decades. Were we better off with Dukakis or Bush Sr? Clinton or Bush Sr./Dole? Better off with Gore/Kerry or Bush Jr.? Better off with Obama or McCain/Romney? Odd that voters who are apparently so poorly informed are so consistently accurate in their selections.
While faith is important to black folks, our voting pattern clearly demonstrates that we distinguish our faith and social leanings from our vote. If not, then blacks would be hypnotized by the "party of Jesus", the GOP, and fall sway to the evangelical pandering of right wingers.
The black vote centers on economics, and is consistent with the global community who understand the importance of a strong social safety net and how it is an inequality suppressor and mobility stimulator. Black folks dont believe in tax cuts for the wealthy paying for themselves, and that wealth will trickle down if we give in to each and every demand of the ruling class. Blacks have voted against the body politic that has created such vast gulfs in wealth and power.
So then you ask, why arent black folks rallying around Sanders who promises to dismantle the system?
Black folks have 20/20 when it comes to common sense. Not idealism. Black folks understand that next to muslim, poll after poll suggests that the "socialist" label carries the highest negatives in the minds of the American voter when it comes to candidates. So how plausible is a Sanders presidency? If he emerged from the primaries, he would be very vulnerable to the republican offering. Are black folks willing to gamble?
On a somewhat smaller scale, this is what happened in 2000. Liberals went for the more ideologically pure option in Nader, and opened us to Bush who cratered the economy, sent black folks off to fight an illegal war, and allowed NYC to get blown up. Black folks dont want a liberal white savior, they just dont want to lose it all.
And even if Sanders did somehow manage to win the presidency...what then?? You think the republican house is going to cooperate with a socialist? The same group of jackals that shut down the govt. and fukked up our credit rating over centrist policies? How does Sanders address this? By saying nebulous, mythical nonsense about starting a "political revolution" within the house....How is this realistic?
The working theory here is that Sanders wins on the issues, but Clinton is the plausible candidate. Im not going to turn this post into a clinton commercial, but she's poised, experienced, can handle herself, and promises to continue the steady, stable leadership from the Obama admin. Her platforms have become more progressive and refined, she understand the national and global political game, and she has gone on record rejecting some of the policies of her husband that have resulted in anti-black consequences.
All Im saying is there are solid reasons to vote for Clinton in the minds of the voter, outside of the condescending racist explanations Ive read in this thread.
When it come to Sanders v Clinton is the Rolling Stones line: "Cant always get what you want..but if you try sometimes...you get what you need"
MrSinnister
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The above post says that we just go with whomever the media picks, no more or less. Makes even a worst case for us actually, as Blacks have never suffered Socialism. Because we refuse to learn shyt for ourselves, according to the post, we go with our fears, superstition, and intuition. Given the achievement gap, why do I not trust emotional voting, huh?
The above post says that we just go with whomever the media picks, no more or less. Makes even a worst case for us actually, as Blacks have never suffered Socialism. Because we refuse to learn shyt for ourselves, according to the post, we go with our fears, superstition, and intuition. Given the achievement gap, why do I not trust emotional voting, huh?
I respect your comment. However, I'm against the establishment.
I've said this before at length
Bernie took WAAAAAAAY too long to get in the race. All that fukking around waiting on Warren fukked him.
He didn't start taking this shyt seriously until fukking july/august...by then, it was TOO late.
Bernie should have BEEN positioned himself back in 2014...i'm talking radio, news, articles, videos, etc....dude had no concept of what it would take to seriously challenge HRC.
OH...and Bernie was an independent. Welp. Thats a problem. You can't just switch sides for the fukk of it and expect people who are Dem insiders ...aka... DELEGATES to just jump out supporting you. Even though he caucused with Dems. Thats why HRC is killing dude in the super delegates
Then no one knew Bernie. I did. I've always known about dude...but if my parents don't know Bernie, Bernie doesn't exist. And all these internet stans forgot they had to log off and spread the word about Bernie like they did Obama.
Too late...Bernie only gained traction when votes were tallied a few weeks ago. Thats not good enough.
I've known people working for HRC since fukking EARLY 2015...maybe even late 2014. She's BEEN ready.
Bernie needed more time to address his flaws of familiarity and access....HRC was not going to let another 2007 happen to her...Bernie didn't come prepared.
He's raised money now...but damn near all the votes are gone...we're in the height of the primaries.
Has there been a new poll on that labeling since the spring?
Nader didn't cost Gore 2000. Gore cost Gore 2000.
bingoA lot of black voters are essentially conservative "evangelicals" who vote Democrat because the Republicans are overtly racist. A Hillary Clinton is appealing to that demographic in the same way Republicans are appealing to conservative evangelical whites. Liberals are now treating black evangelicals with the same scorn they treat white evangelicals -- it wasn't an issue before because liberals and black evangelicals were mostly behind the same candidate. Anyways, the scorn is somewhat deserved, because it is absolutely true that most conservative evangelicals vote against their interest, and more true than ever now that blacks have joined the trend.
The black left is a very small demographic, unfortunately
I've said it before...i'm probably more liberal than all of my friends (who are mostly black)...black people really aren't that liberal.
I criticize HRC more for 2007 than I do the crime bill of the 90s. Michelle Alexander was wrong for that.
I heard on the radio (I think Tom Joyner) last week about Bernie "possibly" being an atheist. You can kiss the black woman (especially older) vote goodbye with that kind of rumor.
tell us why you so mad breh