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Yeah, there is. They in for a rude awakening when debating a Progressive.
No. Theres not.

Kamala Harris was an Attorney General of the most influential state in the union. She's a cop. You can't not be a cop and be a cop.

And Cory Booker did the right thing by defending high skilled jobs that employ a lot of people in his state. Bernie wanted to import drugs that undermines the leadership of the USA in being the innovative capital of pharmaceuticals in the world.
 

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In 2016, that shyt was cute.

In 2020, thats not gonig to fly.

Join the party or run independent.

The DNC fought hard to win back seats and raise money. That shyt isn't easy.

It takes effort and investment and long term forecasting.

who do you think should run or is the dems best chance?
 

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and you won't debate whatever yours is

if I cared about respect, i'd have stop posting here years ago.

Reply with some substance or block me.

:umad: I offer substance to those that I can have a genuine discourse with. Not to clowns who can't construct arguments without a twitter thread to borrow the ideas from.
 

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:umad: I offer substance to those that I can have a genuine discourse with. Not to clowns who can't construct arguments without a twitter thread to borrow the ideas from.
I haven't posted a single tweet...

I have legit beefs with Bernie, his tactics, and his disposition. if you want a sycophant who wont question Bernie, then let me know.

You all have a perpetual tendency to dismiss anyone who questions, challenges, or disagrees with anything Bernie does.

I'm not having it. He has legitimate flaws and criticism.
 

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No. Theres not.

Kamala Harris was an Attorney General of the most influential state in the union. She's a cop. You can't not be a cop and be a cop.

And Cory Booker did the right thing by defending high skilled jobs that employ a lot of people in his state. Bernie wanted to import drugs that undermines the leadership of the USA in being the innovative capital of pharmaceuticals in the world.
But she failed to prosecute Steven Mnuchin and gave no explanation. How does that play with the anti-Trump stances of the party?
Why did he say it was about safety standard then when he didn't vote for importing cheaper drugs? He didn't mention what you're talking about. Should he stick with the safety standards story or adopt your counter-point? lol
 

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But she failed to prosecute Steven Mnuchin and gave no explanation. How does that play with the anti-Trump stances of the party?
Why did he say it was about safety standard then when he didn't vote for importing cheaper drugs? He didn't mention what you're talking about. Should he stick with the safety standards story or adopt your counter-productive? lol
She's not the first or last AG to not prosecute a banker who did something deemed dubious. Do you know who Lanny Breuer is?

But you know what 2008 revealed? That a lot of what they did was legal. Dubious, immoral, and unscrupulous? Sure. Illegal, often times not.

Cory Booker is right. No other country invests in the same standards and measures we do for our drugs. And I don't care what his argument was, frankly. I can read sub-text. So can you. Its not popular to say "i'm opposing drug imports to protect american jobs" because the average american doesn't think about the pharma industry as needing protection and defense because of how large it is physically and financially.

Bernie just half-asses policies. You cant just flood the market with drugs that americans invested in with academics, research dollars, and financial incentive (not to mention the risk associated with failure) with generics from a neighbor who did barely a fraction of that just to give cheaper drugs to patients...that wont even be that much cheaper.

If you want to fix our healthcare system, you'd do that by fixing it. Not undermining it by a neighbor who would exploit american industry. Get government to negotiate drug prices...like Canada does, ironically.
 

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The Two Faces of Kamala Harris

In case people are genuinely unaware of what progressives mean when they take issue with some of Harris' decisions. Again, we're talking about the progressive persepective, you could argue she's evolved on these issues but rationalizing them from a center-left approach doesn't change how people to the left look at these moves. There's more in the full article too...

Harris’s concern about mass incarceration similarly failed to come up when California Governor Jerry Brown reacted to a Supreme Court order to reduce prison overcrowding by announcing a $730 million plan to move inmates to private prisons and vacant county jails. One would expect Harris may have had some words of criticism, especially as California’s senate president had an alternative, better plan that focused on getting inmates mental health and drug treatment. But she was silent. San Jose’s Mercury News criticized her inaction, rightly pointing out that “she wrote a book about” the issue.

The limits of Harris’s approach are likewise evident in her actions on police shootings. She did back a bill that required reports on officer-involved shootings to be posted publicly online and mandated bias training and that justice department agents wear body cameras. But as district attorney, she refused to hand over the names of police officers whose testimonies had led to convictions despite the officers’ arrest records and histories of misconduct. As attorney general, she also opposed instituting police body cameras statewide and stood against a bill requiring her office to investigate fatal police shootings.

Members of California’s Legislative Black Caucus (who are fellow Democrats) criticized her over the latter, as did Melina Abdullah, a Black Lives Matter activist and professor of pan-African studies, who commented: “This is not the time for timidity. … Martin Luther King said if you tell black people to wait, that means never.”

These are just a few of a large group of civil rights advocates and activists who criticized her on the matter, including San Francisco public defender Jeff Adachi and Phelicia Jones, an organizer with the Justice for Mario Woods Coalition and a former Harris supporter, who wondered “how many more people need to die” before Harris stepped in, and accused her of “turn[ing] your back on the people who got you to where you are.” Although Harris’s defenders have singled out a small number of her critics who are white, complaining that it’s “the same three people” criticizing of her, it’s not hard to find a range of people who criticize her record, many of whom are people of color.

In fact, despite being well-placed to reshape California’s criminal justice system, Harris has something of a reputation in the state as a marginal figure on the issue. As the Orange County Register put it, she was viewed by some as a “too-cautious and often calculating politician” who has avoided hot-button issues.

Harris tried to dismiss a suit brought by California inmates over the state’s use of solitary confinement, with her office insisting “there is no ‘solitary confinement’ in California prisons” (despite this, the case ultimately turned into a landmark settlement that struck a blow against the practice). She tried to block a transgender inmate’s request for gender reassignment surgery. When a prosecuting attorney inserted a falsified confession into the transcript of a defendant’s confession, committing what an appeals court called “outrageous government misconduct,” Harris appealed the case, arguing that it wasn’t “outrageous” because it didn’t involve physical brutality.
 

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She's not the first or last AG to not prosecute a banker who did something deemed dubious. Do you know who Lanny Breuer is?

But you know what 2008 revealed? That a lot of what they did was legal. Dubious, immoral, and unscrupulous? Sure. Illegal, often times not.

Cory Booker is right. No other country invests in the same standards and measures we do for our drugs. And I don't care what his argument was, frankly. I can read sub-text. So can you. Its not popular to say "i'm opposing drug imports to protect american jobs" because the average american doesn't think about the pharma industry as needing protection and defense because of how large it is physically and financially.

Bernie just half-asses policies. You cant just flood the market with drugs that americans invested in with academics, research dollars, and financial incentive (not to mention the risk associated with failure) with generics from a neighbor who did barely a fraction of that just to give cheaper drugs to patients...that wont even be that much cheaper.

If you want to fix our healthcare system, you'd do that by fixing it. Not undermining it by a neighbor who would exploit american industry. Get government to negotiate drug prices...like Canada does, ironically.
In Mnuchin and his bank's case they violated laws so that explanation won't work. Easy to have her juelzing on the debate stage. lol
Well, his safety standards shyt doesn't hold much weight either since Canadians seem to be living just fine. So he can say what he wants but it won't be too convincing. And he already has a problem coming off as genuine.
 

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The Two Faces of Kamala Harris

In case people are genuinely unaware of what progressives mean when they take issue with some of Harris' decisions. Again, we're talking about the progressive persepective, you could argue she's evolved on these issues but rationalizing them from a center-left approach doesn't change how people to the left look at these moves. There's more in the full article too...
police reform didn't become a thing until 2015-16.

Lets not rewrite history now.
 

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In Mnuchin and his bank's case they violated laws so that explanation won't work. Easy to have her juelzing on the debate stage. lol
Well, his safety standards shyt doesn't hold much weight either since Canadians seem to be living just fine. So he can say what he wants but it won't be too convincing. And he already has a problem coming off as genuine.
1. Mnuchin's case LOOKS bad. But i haven't seen enough to implicate actual crime. In 2008, the same thing happened. No one could ever be held really liable for that shyt. Nothing would stick

2. The safety standards thing was a cover for the real argument. IDGAF what you think, personally, i'm defending my stance and my interests. Take it or leave it. Booker MADE THE RIGHT MOVE in defending a massive industry in his state.
 

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I haven't posted a single tweet...

I have legit beefs with Bernie, his tactics, and his disposition. if you want a sycophant who wont question Bernie, then let me know.

You all have a perpetual tendency to dismiss anyone who questions, challenges, or disagrees with anything Bernie does.

I'm not having it. He has legitimate flaws and criticism.

I was actually careful to make sure my post wasn't about Bernie or defensive of him in any way. I've only mentioned Bernie once in my posts in this thread and that was grouping him with Warren, Booker and Harris as potential candidates who have given us better indication of their policy goals. My remarks have been focused on providing a bit of leftist perspective on Beto and progressives' scrutiny toward candidates as a whole. I'm happy to dismiss your opinion on a multitude of topics.
 

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1. Mnuchin's case LOOKS bad. But i haven't seen enough to implicate actual crime. In 2008, the same thing happened. No one could ever be held really liable for that shyt. Nothing would stick

2. The safety standards thing was a cover for the real argument. IDGAF what you think, personally, i'm defending my stance and my interests. Take it or leave it. Booker MADE THE RIGHT MOVE in defending a massive industry in his state.
No, there are actual violations in his case. I know you want to wish them away but it doesn't work that way. lol
Right move for America? I disagree. Right move for his presidential aspirations? I don't think so either but we'll see.
 
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