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you realize that europe saves most of its GDP to spend on other shyt? And the US fills in the rest, including defense which is incredibly expensive?
Such faulty logic. Who is Europe being defended against? Is this drone massacre for global defense? iraq war cost a trillion, should Europe chip in to its defense? afghanistan? Pure bullshyt. Further, if Europe had a collective army with the forces they have now, theyd be the second most powerful army easily.
 

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Such faulty logic. Who is Europe being defended against? Is this drone massacre for global defense? iraq war cost a trillion, should Europe chip in to its defense? afghanistan? Pure bullshyt. Further, if Europe had a collective army with the forces they have now, theyd be the second most powerful army easily.
You realize, European countries don't invest in their own defense industry, right? Because the US handles it.

Thats simply the point.

You're overthinking this.

Europe spends less on defense thanks to the USA and spends more on other shyt.
 

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You realize, European countries don't invest in their own defense industry, right? Because the US handles it.

Thats simply the point.

You're overthinking this.

Europe spends less on defense thanks to the USA and spends more on other shyt.
This is falsehood and a pure hypothetical. If there was no USA, hypothetically speaking Nigerian would be a super power. Such nonsense... Why are the next biggest defense spenders after America russia and China, UK and France?
 

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This is falsehood and a pure hypothetical. If there was no USA, hypothetically speaking Nigerian would be a super power. Such nonsense... Why are the next biggest defense spenders after America russia and China, UK and France?

He's right that America directly and indirectly subsidizes the EU allowing certain EU countries to provide social programs rather than spend on military defense.

Even just looking at NATO, the US provides a large amount of the funds.
Funding NATO
 

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He's right that America directly and indirectly subsidizes the EU allowing certain EU countries to provide social programs rather than spend on military defense.

Even just looking at NATO, the US provides a large amount of the funds.
Funding NATO
Look at what Germany, UK and France spend combined... The EU is the second largest defense spender so what in the world is being subsidized? I dont understand this concept.
 

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This is falsehood and a pure hypothetical. If there was no USA, hypothetically speaking Nigerian would be a super power. Such nonsense... Why are the next biggest defense spenders after America russia and China, UK and France?
Fam, you're not understanding it.

The US doesn't have the largest Air Force, followed by the Navy's "air force" for nothing. Not to mention a navy that kicks ANY nation's ass.

This is to secure shipping lanes in ANY piece of water.

You mean to tell me nations that ruled the high seas no longer do? And why? Because of the USA

The US is the single largest guarantee of defense in the world for most of the world.

NATO's largest contributors are: US, UK, France, Greece, and Albania. The last two don't even count.

So you've got ALL these free-wheelers not contributing to the very thing they depend on...and the money they save (cause we all know taxes are high as fukk over there) goes towards social programs.

The US also invents most of this shyt too...so its even MORE expensive.
 

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Look at what Germany, UK and France spend combined... The EU is the second largest defense spender so what in the world is being subsidized? I dont understand this concept.
You can't combine nations like that.

We're talking about the fact that individually, none of them remotely spend as much of a percentage of their GDP's individually on defense as much as the US does, which allows them to fund shyt like socialized healthcare and all the goodies that Europeans wag over everyone's heads.
 

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He's right that America directly and indirectly subsidizes the EU allowing certain EU countries to provide social programs rather than spend on military defense.

Even just looking at NATO, the US provides a large amount of the funds.
Funding NATO
Not to mention all the R&D that the US subsidizes in all the tertiary and related industries that capitalist enterprises export products for. Including medicine
 

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Fam, you're not understanding it.

The US doesn't have the largest Air Force, followed by the Navy's "air force" for nothing. Not to mention a navy that kicks ANY nation's ass.

This is to secure shipping lanes in ANY piece of water.

You mean to tell me nations that ruled the high seas no longer do? And why? Because of the USA

The US is the single largest guarantee of defense in the world for most of the world.

NATO's largest contributors are: US, UK, France, Greece, and Albania. The last two don't even count.

So you've got ALL these free-wheelers not contributing to the very thing they depend on...and the money they save (cause we all know taxes are high as fukk over there) goes towards social programs.

The US also invents most of this shyt too...so its even MORE expensive.
how the fukk are they free wheeling? I just explained they have the second largest defense budget. Its not like America is running a defense charity as you seem to be indicating. Of course they defend shipping etc because they have the largest economy. They benefit the most. And their own interests are what they spend on. South china sea, korea all major US bases benefits Germany How? Only some neocon bullshyt containment ideology would say that. Israel getting billions benefits france? Again pure nonsense.
 

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You can't combine nations like that.

We're talking about the fact that individually, none of them remotely spend as much of a percentage of their GDP's individually on defense as much as the US does, which allows them to fund shyt like socialized healthcare and all the goodies that Europeans wag over everyone's heads.

Again, YOU combined the nations by saying europe... And they combined them with the EU. And they still pay LESS per capita for healthcare than america??? America still pays more per capita for those goodies than europe does.
 

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how the fukk are they free wheeling? I just explained they have the second largest defense budget.
WHEN YOU ADD UP LIKE 4 NATIONS!

Fam, you can't add 3 + 2 + 3 + 1 and then get mad that the US only comes out to 7!



Its not like America is running a defense charity as you seem to be indicating.
Yeah, they absolutely are. NATO is basically the USA. The UN peace keeping force is basically always the USA.
Of course they defend shipping etc because they have the largest economy. They benefit the most. And their own interests are what they spend on. South china sea, korea all major US bases benefits Germany How? Only some neocon bullshyt containment ideology would say that. Israel getting billions benefits france? Again pure nonsense.

These nations all once ruled the seas...and theres a reason they're not building tons of ships anymore

Go read about the lead up to WW1. It seems you don't understand how global projection works right now.
 
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