Besides C.R.E.A.M, what other megahits did Wu Tang Clan have as a group?

[dora_da_destroyer]

Really, solos shouldn't be compared. The allure of bone was them as a group and their harmonies, that didn't get captured on solos, the allure of wu was the fact that as a group it was fukkin 9 of them as well as specific mc's who had more star potential which is why their solo work stands out much more. Group for group, they both are prolific but it comes down to preference, wu didn't make music that translated to multiple facets of life. You had to sit down and really want to hear some hip hop shyt with non-melodic beats. Bone had more diversity in their music which made them have bigger hits. I don't know why Wu stans (specifically those in the northeast) can't accept the fact that its not consensus that they're the greatest rap group. ATCQ, Kast, Bone, Mobb, EMPD, etc stans don't seem to have this dismissive chip on their shoulders.

 

[Wacky D]

Couldn't we say the same for Bone then? their last platinum plaque came in 2000. Now again, whether you personally liked the W or Iron Flag isn't the point, it's about the charts. I feel like the W definitely had tracks worth mentioning as did Iron Flag but those are subjective arguments which we will never see eye to eye on

For a group that's only released three group albums since 97, I feel like a platinum plaque and a gold plaque is nothing to sneeze at. No matter how much of a Wu fan I am, 8 diagrams is meh at best so I can't even begin to speak on that one

they've done plenty of things of relevance since 2000. wutang hasn't.

also, resurrection trumps The W by far.

 

[Billy Ocean]

Really, solos shouldn't be compared. The allure of bone was them as a group and their harmonies, that didn't get captured on solos, the allure of wu was the fact that as a group it was fukkin 9 of them as well as specific mc's who had more star potential which is why their solo work stands out much more. Group for group, they both are prolific but it comes down to preference, wu didn't make music that translated to multiple facets of life. You had to sit down and really want to hear some hip hop shyt with non-melodic beats. Bone had more diversity in their music which made them have bigger hits. I don't know why Wu stans (specifically those in the northeast) can't accept the fact that its not consensus that they're the greatest rap group. ATCQ, Kast, Bone, Mobb, EMPD, etc stans don't seem to have this dismissive chip on their shoulders.

You wanna create a poll on who people believe is a greater group in hip hop? Don't think so. Cut it out my nikka. Don't be relegated to co-signing Wacky D and the troll who started this thread.

And BTW...if you have to describe listening to Wu music like "You had to sit down and really want to hear some hip hop shyt with non-melodic beats" like it's having to prepare yourself while on line to be guillotined, than your opinion on hip hop matters should be disregarded. fukking silly.

 

[MartyMcFly]

they've done plenty of things of relevance since 2000. wutang hasn't.

also, resurrection trumps The W by far.

If that's how you feel, that's how you feel, man. I disagree but no sweat off my back.

 

[mobbinfms]

Bone's Solo albums just aren't up to par with Wu. They both have 2 Classics as far as Group albums so Wu wins cause of solos.

Bone has two classics? I am a huge Wu fan, but I don't think the general consensus is that Forever was a classic.

 

[Wacky D]

You wanna create a poll on who people believe is a greater group in hip hop? Don't think so. Cut it out my nikka. Don't be relegated to co-signing Wacky D and the troll who started this thread.

why don't you try replying to the last post I threw at you?

Bone has two classics? I am a huge Wu fan, but I don't think the general consensus is that Forever was a classic.

creepin on ah come up
and
art of war is arguable.

 

[Billy Ocean]

why don't you try replying to the last post I threw at you?

Wacky, I try not to pay too much attention to your posts cause you're a known retard.

 

[MartyMcFly]

Bone has two classics? I am a huge Wu fan, but I don't think the general consensus is that Forever was a classic.

Yeah I think the general consensus and by that I'm thinking hip hop magazines and sites, not message boards, is that Wu Forever is a better album in retrospect than it was in 97. In 97 it was seen as a disappointment, too bloated and too different from 36 chambers, which is why for the W, all of the promo for that album was about taking it back to the original sound etc.

 

[mobbinfms]

Da fukk is a hood mega hit breh? Cause I can promise you none of those songs were getting major play on the radio 3 months after release in any hood outside of New York.....And you mention Ol Dirty Rae and Method Man carrying the Wu brand as solo albums but this just proves my point that as a group there brand wasnt that strong musically as everyone on the coli likes to hype.... Great solo efforts out of the Wu Tang crew but they only had 2 solid group joints and only 1 classic out of that bunch (36 Chambers)... so with that said As a GROUP to me they just dont have enough material to warrant GOAT status

There was a time when radio play or billboard numbers was not the sole determining factor in whether a rapper was the shyt. There was a time when the hip hop community had standards and recognized the wheat from the chaff. You think Eric B and Rakim were going quadruple platinum? I miss those days. From this post I am getting the sense that you are young.

 

[Billy Ocean]

Yeah I think the general consensus and by that I'm thinking hip hop magazines and sites, not message boards, is that Wu Forever is a better album in retrospect than it was in 97. In 97 it was seen as a disappointment, too bloated and too different from 36 chambers, which is why for the W, all of the promo for that album was about taking it back to the original sound etc.

Not only that, but Art of War ain't looked at as a universal hip hop classic. These green eyed Bone stans kill me when they try to sneakily slide that it in. When the last time you ever heard Art of War mentioned with the greats? I'll give you a minute...

 

[Rapmastermind]

Wu Classics: 36 Chambers and Forever
Bone Classics: Creepin on the Come Up and E 1999

 

[mobbinfms]

So you took ONE album from each group that have MULTIPLE albums to justify that? You don't see how that's myopic?



Ah, but those albums are solo albums - not albums by the group "Wu-Tang Clan", which is why singles from those weren't included.
That's what some of y'all don't get. The question is: what singles were 'megahits' where the artist was "Wu-Tang Clan"?

The only gray area here is what defines "mega-".

I took the highest selling album from both groups. When they were at the peak of their popularity. If you have a way of distinguishing the fact that Bone sold twice as much as Wu - let us know.

This mega hit thing is the OP's criteria. My statement was that Wu was far better. I backed up my statement with facts.

 

[mobbinfms]

Id listen to Thug Mentality '99, Heaven's Movie, and The Gift before any Wu Solo personally but thats just me

That's your opinion. I personally don't really like Bone outside of the classic singles. But our personal opinions are irrelevant - we are talking about the general consensus of the hip hop community.

 

[MartyMcFly]

That's your opinion. I personally don't really like Bone outside of the classic singles. But our personal opinions are irrelevant - we are talking about the general consensus of the hip hop community.

I don't think he's going off of the hip hop community though, I think the argument is based on billboard and single sells or chart positions. If we got it from the hip hop community, it would probably be a different discussion entirely and would go in so many different directions. Shook Ones part 2 is a HUGE song by hip hop standards and definitely a classic in the genre and even outside of it to a degree, but it's not a big billboard song so that would be the difference

 

[Taadow]

You wanna create a poll on who people believe is a greater group in hip hop? Don't think so. Cut it out my nikka.

Challenge accepted...