Better Artists/MC's Than Kanye West

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Is 2pac better than Canibus?
In what ways? They both have their strengths and are top calibre emcees. I enjoy 2pacs albums more though and go back and listen to his work more often than I do canibus. Canibus was technically a better emcee than 2pac but I feel 2pacs lyrics had a more raw and to the point feel. Using a larger vocabulary and fitting more syllables into a bar though does not necessarily make you a more talented rapper.
 

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In what ways? They both have their strengths and are top calibre emcees. I enjoy 2pacs albums more though and go back and listen to his work more often than I do canibus. Canibus was technically a better emcee than 2pac but I feel 2pacs lyrics had a more raw and to the point feel. Using a larger vocabulary and fitting more syllables into a bar though does not necessarily make you a more talented rapper.
So basically u just said 2pac being able to make music that moves u makes him more talented right?

U sound exactly like what Kanye stans say

So in other words u are no different than Kanye fans
 

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So basically u just said 2pac being able to make music that moves u makes him more talented right?

U sound exactly like what Kanye stans say

So in other words u are no different than Kanye fans

Ridiculous lmao. You sink to new lows each time, and are manipulative and predictable.

Being a better MC doesn't SOLELY mean you are a better artist, but it does normally give an advantage. Also there are several aspects, many of which Kanye lacks, lyrics, content, which are 2 very important qualities, flows which is obviously an important quality. There's many areas artistically where he is surpassed by many.

P.S Both Canibus and 2 Pac are better than Kanye. I will say I like Kanye overall better than Aseop Rock, and part of it IS artistically in terms of making music because Aseop is a better lyricist, but Aseop is quite an acquired taste and an abstract rapper. Is Aseop a better MC in terms of lyrics etc? Yes, but Kanye might be the better artist.
 

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Saying that though, this is a classic song and just this song alone is better than many Kanye albums...

 

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In what ways? They both have their strengths and are top calibre emcees. I enjoy 2pacs albums more though and go back and listen to his work more often than I do canibus. Canibus was technically a better emcee than 2pac but I feel 2pacs lyrics had a more raw and to the point feel. Using a larger vocabulary and fitting more syllables into a bar though does not necessarily make you a more talented rapper.

exactly besides pac is a better mc then canibus in terms of rhyme schemes vocab etc imo but it don't mean shyt if u your music is wack at the end of the day.
 

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Ridiculous lmao. You sink to new lows each time, and are manipulative and predictable.

Being a better MC doesn't SOLELY mean you are a better artist, but it does normally give an advantage. Also there are several aspects, many of which Kanye lacks, lyrics, content, which are 2 very important qualities, flows which is obviously an important quality. There's many areas artistically where he is surpassed by many.

P.S Both Canibus and 2 Pac are better than Kanye. I will say I like Kanye overall better than Aseop Rock, and part of it IS artistically in terms of making music because Aseop is a better lyricist, but Aseop is quite an acquired taste and an abstract rapper. Is Aseop a better MC in terms of lyrics etc? Yes, but Kanye might be the better artist.
Kanye lacks lyrics?

Okay lets examine that statement..

WHat do u mean he lacks lyrics?

Lyrics by definition means the words said over instrumentation...

Now since Kanye is a rapper its safe to say u are not referring to that definition

Okay so next...when u say "lyrics"...what type of lyrics are u accusing Kanye of lacking? What elements is he missing when it comes to lyrics when compared to other rappers?

Now u say he lacks content? Compared to whom? Cuz Kanye's content ranges from women, to family, to religion, to, slavery, etc. So what exactly do you mean when u say he lacks "content" in his discography.

Elaborate sir
 

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So basically u just said 2pac being able to make music that moves u makes him more talented right?

U sound exactly like what Kanye stans say

So in other words u are no different than Kanye fans
:dahell:

I said Canibus is technically a better emcee than Pac. Does that mean Pac can't make better music?

Immortal Technique is great lyrically he's not in my top 20 though
 

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Kanye lacks lyrics?

Okay lets examine that statement..

WHat do u mean he lacks lyrics?

Lyrics by definition means the words said over instrumentation...

Now since Kanye is a rapper its safe to say u are not referring to that definition

Okay so next...when u say "lyrics"...what type of lyrics are u accusing Kanye of lacking? What elements is he missing when it comes to lyrics when compared to other rappers?

Now u say he lacks content? Compared to whom? Cuz Kanye's content ranges from women, to family, to religion, to, slavery, etc. So what exactly do you mean when u say he lacks "content" in his discography.

Elaborate sir

Kanye lacks lyrical ability. He has A LOT of wack lyrics, and corny lyrics...

"got a fat friend, nicknamed her Minnie van"

It's littered throughout his music his wack lyrics and it hurts the quality and longevity of his songs/music. Because the aim is to get the right combination of lyrics/music to create great work, in most cases there is a balance that should be had, Kanye relied too heavily on production, at different times throughout his career, particularly something like Graduation where the beats were cool/good but he wasn't bringing it lyrically so it hurt the quality, listenability and timelessness of the album. Kanye lacks content compared to many rappers, what you want me to list them? And when I say content also add substance to that, if you compare Kanye's content to the likes of K-Rino, 2 Pac, KRS-One and MANY others he comes up SORELY lacking.
 

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Kanye lacks lyrical ability. He has A LOT of wack lyrics, and corny lyrics...

"got a fat friend, nicknamed her Minnie van"

It's littered throughout his music his wack lyrics and it hurts the quality and longevity of his songs/music. Because the aim is to get the right combination of lyrics/music to create great work, in most cases there is a balance that should be had, Kanye relied too heavily on production, at different times throughout his career, particularly something like Graduation where the beats were cool/good but he wasn't bringing it lyrically so it hurt the quality, listenability and timelessness of the album. Kanye lacks content compared to many rappers, what you want me to list them? And when I say content also add substance to that, if you compare Kanye's content to the likes of K-Rino, 2 Pac, KRS-One and MANY others he comes up SORELY lacking.
That doesnt answer the question.

U said he "lacks lyrics"

Meaning his lyrics lack something other rappers use

What is that something?

everybody has lyrics we can laugh at if we examine em closeley

Sht this board has an entire thread dedicated to the stupid ass corny lines Papoose spits

But thats besides the point,....

U say kanye lacks lyrics

So what is he LACKING in his lyrics that other rapper have that serve as criteria to validate the statement that "Kanye lacks lyrics"?
 

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That doesnt answer the question.

U said he "lacks lyrics"

Meaning his lyrics lack something other rappers use

What is that something?

everybody has lyrics we can laugh at if we examine em closeley

Sht this board has an entire thread dedicated to the stupid ass corny lines Papoose spits

But thats besides the point,....

U say kanye lacks lyrics

So what is he LACKING in his lyrics that other rapper have that serve as criteria to validate the statement that "Kanye lacks lyrics"?

Quality, potency, depth, technique, really it's a long answer because his lyrics lack a lot. Even compared to a Jay Z, if you take Jay Z lyrics from Reasonable Doubt they will surpass every album Kanye has done on that basis. You can do this with NUMEROUS rappers projects, that's why he's lacking lyrical ability.
 

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So ur saying
Canibus is a better MC than Pac?

Canibus is a better MC than Pac?

Okay u said it not me
Based off the work they have put out yes. Have you heard Canibus recent work? He's doing things nobody else has ever or will ever do again. Canibus may have a lot of faults but he takes his pen game very seriously. Pac was crafting classics in 20 minute sessions between filming Hollywood movies and smashing A list celebrities. You need to come better than this. @StillNotSoft can probably swat this stupid comparison much more eloquently than I could though
 

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Kanye lacks lyrical ability. He has A LOT of wack lyrics, and corny lyrics...

"got a fat friend, nicknamed her Minnie van"

It's littered throughout his music his wack lyrics and it hurts the quality and longevity of his songs/music. Because the aim is to get the right combination of lyrics/music to create great work, in most cases there is a balance that should be had, Kanye relied too heavily on production, at different times throughout his career, particularly something like Graduation where the beats were cool/good but he wasn't bringing it lyrically so it hurt the quality, listenability and timelessness of the album. Kanye lacks content compared to many rappers, what you want me to list them? And when I say content also add substance to that, if you compare Kanye's content to the likes of K-Rino, 2 Pac, KRS-One and MANY others he comes up SORELY lacking.
As far as content again what do u mean?

because throughout Kanye's discography Kanye has talked about a plethora of subjects

The importance of keeping family matters between family only
The reality that the nation's idea of how to attain the american dream is outdated
The role of Jesus in the lives of those oppressed by unpleasant situations
Gold diggers
Black Music and how its become America's "crack music"
The reality that everything that feels good to us ends up being an addiction that destroys us
The very real picture of blood diamonds
Chasing your dreams

and many more

SO i fail to see what exactly are u talking about
 
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