Better player: Curry or Iverson?

[jaydolf spitler]

20 wins no, but i don't believe they get to the finals and depending on seeding maybe not even advance in the playoffs.

imagine curry being doubled as he crosses half court (pre new hand checking rules) and passing it to aaron mckie or eric snow or running pick and roll with mutombo or some other offensively inadequate big

uhhhh a double team as soon as someone crosses half court is easily dealt with by passing to the open guy and so on and so forth till you eventually get an easy bucket

 

[Lifer11]

And? It's still much better. The difference between 49 and 44 is the difference between Lebron James and Kobe Bryant in efficiency. It's pretty damn sizable when you're talking about a comparable PPG.

Wade was still better in almost every statistical category while playing far less minutes.

What's your counter?

Wade shot 10.8 for 22 that year, Iverson shot 11 for 25. If Wade would've taken another 3 shots he may have averaged the same as AI, that's not way more efficient.

 

[LV Koopa]

I see lots of math failure in here

.05% is a big deal even if you weren't figuring out the statistical significance. We're talking thousands of shots and raw FG%. That is a HUGE gap for NBA players, and even more so when talking elite of elite. Wade was regularly putting up 47%+ seasons with the likes of Michael Beasley and J'Oneal around. Great players can, and regularly shoot at or above league average efficiency even with bums. Iverson couldn't. Stop making excuses that he needed to shoot and that's why his FG% was so low. Other players kept it up and he didn't because he wasn't that good.

In regards to the "only 5 more wins" comment - that's a big jump depending on where you are going from. A 35 win team winning 40 games the next season - 5 wins isn't a big deal. A 55 win jumping to 60 usually means "watch out" because the win curve is exponential. It's damn difficult to jump from 55 to 60+ because you typically have to beat a few more powerhouse teams to do so.

But I'll chill on the NBA betting lessons. Some of yall are just dumb as to how the game works.

 

[Lifer11]

Nope. You said AI had better statistical seasons than Prime Wade and that it's not debatable, you dumbass.

That's not true. Wade's best season us better than any of AI's. Wade is more efficient in pretty much every category while scoring the same amount of points in less minutes.

If Wade can put up almost the exact same stat line as AI but slightly more efficient and in way less time, how is NOT better?

Wade is more efficient in 1 category fg%. 3pt % for career Iverson is better, FT% for career Iverson is better, APG for career Iverson is better, PPG for career Iverson is better, SPG career Iverson is better, MPG Iverson again, games played Iverson again. Wade has him beat in fg% by what amounts to like 2-4 shots a game, and TOs, that's it literally. So like I've been saying it's up for debate who's the better player.

 

[Draje]

Wade shot 10.8 for 22 that year, Iverson shot 11 for 25. If Wade would've taken another 3 shots he may have averaged the same as AI, that's not way more efficient.

And he might have have made all 3 of them and scored 6 PPG?

Or he could have played as many minutes as AI seeing as he was already better in most of despite playing less minutes.

Wade needs less shots to score the same amount of PPG and still does everything else better, in less minutes.

You lost.

 

[Draje]

Wade is more efficient in 1 category fg%. 3pt % for career Iverson is better, FT% for career Iverson is better, APG for career Iverson is better, PPG for career Iverson is better, SPG career Iverson is better, MPG Iverson again, games played Iverson again. Wade has him beat in fg% by what amounts to like 2-4 shots a game, and TOs, that's it literally. So like I've been saying it's up for debate who's the better player.

You didn't say career, dumbass. You said AI had better seasons. He didn't. Wade's best season is better than AI's best season.

ITS THAT SIMPLE.

 

[Spiritual Stratocaster]

Soft, privileged people usually have less drive in life. Harsh realities

So how do you think Curry became the best shooter in the NBA right now then?

Dude had to work on his game all summer just to get a shot at some small D1 school no one has ever heard of.

Dude been in the league less than a decade and is already in discussion as one of the greatest 3 point shooters ever.

 

[Originalgangsta317]

Curry shoots 44% on threes


Denver was also better when they traded his ass for Chauncey Billups

You on sum bullshyt

And you know it

You can't compare 3pt% and FG% when this nikka Iverson was sometimes shooting 24-28 times a night

nikka was shooting sometimes 7x the number of 3's Curry was taking

 

[Draje]

I don't know what your criteria is for Wade's best seasons shytting on Iverson's best seasons. Iverson averaged more pts, more assists, more steals, only .2 more TOs, shot better 3pt %, got to the line more and shot a better FT % for his career, and did it over a much longer period on worse teams with little to no support. Like I said it's up for debate, but Iverson's best seasons are better than Wade's best season and that's actually not up for debate.

Wade is def a better defender, team player, and a higher bball iq though.

This is what you said, dumbass.

You explicitly said that AI's best season is better than Wade's.

Not true. Wade's best season is better than every season you've listed

 

[Lifer11]

You didn't say career, dumbass. You said AI had better seasons. He didn't. Wade's best season is better than AI's best season.

ITS THAT SIMPLE.

My whole argument started based on careers then you switched to seasons so I switched up too.

 

[Malta]

You on sum bullshyt

And you know it

You can't compare 3pt% and FG% when this nikka Iverson was sometimes shooting 24-28 times a night

nikka was shooting sometimes 7x the number of 3's Curry was taking

Iverson would be taking 24 shots a game with this Warriors team, he could not run an offense properly.

 

[Draje]

This dumbass @Lifer11 is listing career numbers when we've explicitly discussing his statement that AI's best season is better than Wade's best season.

That's how you know this dumbass shouldn't discuss basketball. Changing his argument

 

[Draje]

My whole argument started based on careers then you switched to seasons so I switched up too.

WRONG!

You said AI's best seasons are better than Wade's. You also said it isn't a debate.

Jesus CHRIST

 

[Lifer11]

WRONG!

You said AI's best seasons are better than Wade's. You also said it isn't a debate.

Jesus CHRIST

That's when u jumped in the argument, but my initial statement about Iverson and Wade was about career numbers you little fakkit. Go get a life I can tell by your 5000 posts since 2012 you don't have much of a life, I'm over senseless violence at this point but the amount of disrespect you've shown in here would've gotten your teeth knocked down your throat in real life. Go suck DWade off a lil more you fukking weirdo if you took his dikk out your mouth for a minute you'd realize what I said out the gate was that Iverson vs Wade is debatable.

 

[Lifer11]

Iverson's numbers are better than Wade's besides rings obviously. Wade won with Shaq and Lebron. His first chip with Shaq, Wade was clearly the alpha and had one of the all time performances, but just having someone of Shaq's stature by your side changes your game, confidence, etc. in incalculable ways. Iverson never played with anyone even remotely comparable to Shaq or Bron, while also playing under someone like Pat Riley.

Not saying Iverson is better, but it's certainly up for debate in my opinion.

That's what I initially said. Talking about Iverson's career numbers which are better than Wade's, and again I stated it's up for debate in my opinion. @Draje