Better student of Jay (Pusha or Drake)

Who's the better student of Jay?


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Not just the beef but overall as far as career and everything. Drake has managed to have the hit making skills and superstar status. Push on the other hand has the coke raps, the executive position, the career longevity and other things.

Both men have been on record as being great admirers of his, have done songs along side him, rapped over the instrumentals of his songs, and even flipped his lines (even in their beef).

Drake refusing to fully address Pusha for years is not only similar to what Jay does but in a nutshell the advice Jay gave directly to Drake on "light up". To actually lose it and go after Pusha directly is actually pretty similar to what Takeover was.

Pusha on the other hand not only used Jay lines from "the prelude" on "infrared" (That were flipped back on him on "Duppy") but Pusha's "Story of Adidon" was over Jay's "Story of OJ".

Pusha finding and using a photo of Drake is like the summer jam photo but actually way more effective and damaging. Drake's whole "holla at me when you multi million" is basically his "I got money stacks bigger than you" "I sold what your whole album sold in my first week" type line. All the "you act like you sold coke for Escobar in the 80s" "there's no malice in your heart you'r an approachable dude" is like Jay's "there's only so long fake thugs can pretend" or even "he never sold aspirin how he Escobar". "I had your microphone but the signature faded..." is kinda like "yeah I sampled your voice you was using it wrong" where Drake and Jay underplay and flip their own fandom for their respective opponents.

Maybe the better question is why doesn't Nas have the same type of emulation and influence over as many artists despite winning the beef, having a longer run that started out more successful, having influenced and inspired Jay himself, still being here and being an absolute legend, etc
 

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Drake - he has used every single page of Hov playbook. Emulated it all the way to the top of the game.

The subliminals, hopping on the new wave early to stay relevant, dumbing down to double his dollars (could be argued Drake didn't have to dumb down though, his shyt was never that high level)

Respect the GOAT, 6 Fraud can't hold a candle to him. He didn't cry when Pac died but he'll probably cry when Hov does :wow:
 

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Jay is an EMCEE first and foremost. He isn’t a manufactured entity with a team of ghostwriters. He is the ultimate hustler that came from nothing and the king of braggadocio raps. He came in the game as a owner. How dare you compare him the deadbeat motherfukker. This thread is disrespectful. Drake is the anti Jay.
 
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Not just the beef but overall as far as career and everything. Drake has managed to have the hit making skills and superstar status. Push on the other hand has the coke raps, the executive position, the career longevity and other things.

Both men have been on record as being great admirers of his, have done songs along side him, rapped over the instrumentals of his songs, and even flipped his lines (even in their beef).

Drake refusing to fully address Pusha for years is not only similar to what Jay does but in a nutshell the advice Jay gave directly to Drake on "light up". To actually lose it and go after Pusha directly is actually pretty similar to what Takeover was.

Pusha on the other hand not only used Jay lines from "the prelude" on "infrared" (That were flipped back on him on "Duppy") but Pusha's "Story of Adidon" was over Jay's "Story of OJ".

Pusha finding and using a photo of Drake is like the summer jam photo but actually way more effective and damaging. Drake's whole "holla at me when you multi million" is basically his "I got money stacks bigger than you" "I sold what your whole album sold in my first week" type line. All the "you act like you sold coke for Escobar in the 80s" "there's no malice in your heart you'r an approachable dude" is like Jay's "there's only so long fake thugs can pretend" or even "he never sold aspirin how he Escobar". "I had your microphone but the signature faded..." is kinda like "yeah I sampled your voice you was using it wrong" where Drake and Jay underplay and flip their own fandom for their respective opponents.

Maybe the better question is why doesn't Nas have the same type of emulation and influence over as many artists despite winning the beef, having a longer run that started out more successful, having influenced and inspired Jay himself, still being here and being an absolute legend, etc


Lupe Fiasco
J.Cole
Kendrick Lamar

they are all amongst the three most respected and influential MC’s of their generation. Other notable MC’s who have admitted a heavy Nas influence

Blu (Said Nas was the greatest MC ever)
Fashawn (created an Ode To Illmatic mixtape)
Dave East (said his Nas is one of his biggest inspirations)
Elzhi (created the Elmatic mixtape)

Hell Aubrey & The Jets themselves have said they were influenced by Nas.
 

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The one who studied Jay’s special tactic of writing his own shyt
Jay much like Biggie is known for having a method or memorization in which he doesn't actually write and has been doing so since the Reasonable doubt days according to Jay himself.
 

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Drake got caught cheating on his tests so I can't praise him as a student.

Also you can hear ma's influence on j cole and Lupe. Matter of fact they both have said they were inspired by it was written.
 
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