Beyoncé doesn't write her own lyrics and has a great team behind her

[Yinny]

I think the difference is none of the women you mentioned went on press junkets claiming they wrote their albums.

But it's def not a big deal.

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

"Pop" means popular music. Meaning shyt on the radio.

Drake and panda are pop, and their music is made the same way.

And again we are way away from my original assertion that a team of artist can take an idea and make some good music.

Oh it's good music you're talking about? I'm talking about hits.....

A gang of people in the studio does not equal a hit if you don't have a star

 

[yjmonn]

Mariah wrote most of the songs she sang. This even came out of her own mouth. Her debut album she came out with when she was 20, every song was written by her. Including aruguably her most popular song Vision of Love.

 

[David_TheMan]

Is the OP a man or a woman, because this is some hyper emotional ho shyt going on with the first post.

 

[NvrCMyNut]

Hybrid Dominicans opinions on blacks dancing? .....

Janet came up in a dance focused area.... Hence, rhythm nation.... Heavily choreographed(maybe over choreographed by today's standard.)

So I can see why you'd say that.....and pleasure principle was a dope routine....but it's not a marvel...my sister used to imitate it flawlessly...

Other than displaying you're own insecurities what's this supposed to mean?

 

[NvrCMyNut]

double post

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

Other than displaying you're own insecurities what's this supposed to mean?

Nothing insecure over here.... And it means exactly what it says

 

[blackslash]

I never liked janet's music like that...
I never liked beyonce's music like that either but beyonce has more ballads than janet so I've bumped b more than janet
But ya
R kelly the GOAT of R&B
That's all dat matters

 

[NvrCMyNut]

Nothing insecure over here.... And it means exactly what it says

Which is what?

The woman in the video & Beyonce probably have pretty much the same genetic make up.

 

[LadyElle0301]

We need to have a Coli 'Panel Discussion' where some of ya'll get the opportunity to hear how you really sound from post to post and how much your arguments change to fit a certain narrative. Maybe you just don't know enough music history to even qualify for certain discussions, either way:

1. Are you really mad that Beyonce fanatics ride as hard as they do, or is your real anger directed at the fans of music you like for being so passive? All this time we been screaming fukk the critics, and fukk the industry, I guess by default the only thing left for us to "fukk" are the fans, lol.
2. Are you really mad that a 35 year old Beyonce is "pretending" to be socially aware? Would it be easier for you if she kept it real? Even if her latest evolution were totally fake you'd still have to say she's doing a whole helluva lot more than most of us will do/have done at the same age.
3. Remember when songwriting credits used to just have one or two names? It's not cuz less people were involved, ITS CUZ LESS PEOPLE WERE GETTING PROPERLY CREDITED FOR THEIR fukkING CONTRIBUTION!!
4. Funny how all of a sudden she's a no talent hack when between her, her mom and her dad they ran a whole fukking operation for the first 5 years! People forget about Tina being up 36hrs straight sewing stage costumes. People forget, everything with Destiny's Child/Beyonce was homegrown; hand sewn outfits, they did their own hair and make up, choreography, wrote songs and dad ran the label. So you think after 20 years industry experience she can't put together a video/movie treatment and be hands on working with her TEAM of writers, stylists, dancers, musicians, etc? fukk outta here.

I hate come off as shytting on one person to big up another, but that seems to be the only way to paint a vivid enough picture for it to actually click in some of ya'lls heads. No disrespect, but to call Beyonce manufactured and then turn around site Janet a s a superior talent is mindblowing. Janet's vocals, image and choreography were so....I'll stop cuz I like Janet. Alicia Keys is another artist I like, but only thing separating her from her contemporaries is that damn piano, that doesn't make her more authentic. Most of ya'll would pass out if you knew that just about every major vocalist in that same ilk from Toni Braxton to Brandy, Mariah, Beyonce and everyone in between could play piano! True Alicia is a virtuoso on the keys, but it doesn't come across in her music like say a Roberta Flack or Aretha Franklin. Ironically, Beyonce is probably one of the last organic superstars but gets so much flack for being "manufactured" when truth be told a lot more effort was spent creating images for and marketing most of your favorite [Neo] Soul acts that started out around the same time as Beyonce. I'll leave that one alone too cuz I'm talking about some of my favorite artists, but its the truth.

Great post!

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

Mariah wrote most of the songs she sang. This even came out of her own mouth. Her debut album she came out with when she was 20, every song was written by her. Including aruguably her most popular song Vision of Love.

Don't doubt it...

 

[blackslash]

We need to have a Coli 'Panel Discussion' where some of ya'll get the opportunity to hear how you really sound from post to post and how much your arguments change to fit a certain narrative. Maybe you just don't know enough music history to even qualify for certain discussions, either way:

1. Are you really mad that Beyonce fanatics ride as hard as they do, or is your real anger directed at the fans of music you like for being so passive? All this time we been screaming fukk the critics, and fukk the industry, I guess by default the only thing left for us to "fukk" are the fans, lol.
2. Are you really mad that a 35 year old Beyonce is "pretending" to be socially aware? Would it be easier for you if she kept it real? Even if her latest evolution were totally fake you'd still have to say she's doing a whole helluva lot more than most of us will do/have done at the same age.
3. Remember when songwriting credits used to just have one or two names? It's not cuz less people were involved, ITS CUZ LESS PEOPLE WERE GETTING PROPERLY CREDITED FOR THEIR fukkING CONTRIBUTION!!
4. Funny how all of a sudden she's a no talent hack when between her, her mom and her dad they ran a whole fukking operation for the first 5 years! People forget about Tina being up 36hrs straight sewing stage costumes. People forget, everything with Destiny's Child/Beyonce was homegrown; hand sewn outfits, they did their own hair and make up, choreography, wrote songs and dad ran the label. So you think after 20 years industry experience she can't put together a video/movie treatment and be hands on working with her TEAM of writers, stylists, dancers, musicians, etc? fukk outta here.

I hate come off as shytting on one person to big up another, but that seems to be the only way to paint a vivid enough picture for it to actually click in some of ya'lls heads. No disrespect, but to call Beyonce manufactured and then turn around site Janet a s a superior talent is mindblowing. Janet's vocals, image and choreography were so....I'll stop cuz I like Janet. Alicia Keys is another artist I like, but only thing separating her from her contemporaries is that damn piano, that doesn't make her more authentic. Most of ya'll would pass out if you knew that just about every major vocalist in that same ilk from Toni Braxton to Brandy, Mariah, Beyonce and everyone in between could play piano! True Alicia is a virtuoso on the keys, but it doesn't come across in her music like say a Roberta Flack or Aretha Franklin. Ironically, Beyonce is probably one of the last organic superstars but gets so much flack for being "manufactured" when truth be told a lot more effort was spent creating images for and marketing most of your favorite [Neo] Soul acts that started out around the same time as Beyonce. I'll leave that one alone too cuz I'm talking about some of my favorite artists, but its the truth.

Ether

 

[seemorecizzy]

Does this place like anything ??

 

[I love Latina women]

Great artist and pioneer ...but they cancel each other out

since Janet vocals are subpar to Beys... and Bey doesn't write her own sh!t


All the best artists steal anyway....

neither janet or beyonce have vocals like whitney or mariah but even with that said, janet's singin' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beyonce's singin'

beyonce tries to sound like she's a great singer while janet does her whisper soft singin' but it works and she knows her lane

so yeah, janet in singin' and everythin' else >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beyonce

 

[Tflasha]

I watched a segment on CNN and they was saying "Beyoncé has so much to say.. what do you think she meant by.." etc. etc.

What does she have to say? in her own words?

this woman has never spoken a word that legit came from her own thoughts lol. in her interviews, she is so robotic and redundant.lol its not even funny... she the true definition of a ventriloquist dummy