Beyoncé doesn't write her own lyrics and has a great team behind her

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Nah Ive listened to Janet jus never had music ima take the time to listen to now
Same with B

the way u arguing its almost as if u bringing in these chicks' personalities and sht
Idc buount nun dat rii now

Music wise Beyonce has a wider vocal range and actually SANGS
Janet doesnt bottom line
Beyonce has more ballads in her discography than Janet
Janet is not a ballad type of artist
I prefer ballads because those are the type of songs with SANGING involved and those kind of songs can move me

ok. beyonce has more range but what good is it when she doesn't knock it out the ballpark and really sing with emotion and feelin'?

you suppose to feel songs, songs suppose to bring out emotions. beyonce's music comes across as lifeless to me

i'm sorry, but beyonce vocally don't move me at all. never has

i can feeeeeeeel this. even with janet's less of a range, she does her thing and makes it work. (beyonce doesn't)

 

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Again I'm not understanding why you're bringing up Missy Elliot? She ran the female rap game for a very good while. Had hits on top of hits. Wrote and produced. She got SICK and couldn't perform anymore. During her absence people moved on from her.

...and yet Missy Elliott ripped the Super Bowl last year.
And had a single just a couple months ago with Pharrell "Everything I Touch Turns To Gold" Williams,
and nobody cared. Hmm.

And again - I brought up Missy because people in here were talking about artists writing their own work
(like people seem to think Beyoncé is good at) and Missy is tops at that...yet she doesn't get as much love
as Bey does. Hmm.


Um after they got signed Mathew was still her manager still running DC4. Tina was still making their clothes.

Why in the Bloody Black Fucc are you talmbat clothes and other chit that doesn't have chit to do
with their music?

When DC got signed they were signed to D'Wayne Wiggins from Toni Tony Tone...and he is the reason
they got prime content for those first two albums (like Missy, who wrote and produced a couple of their songs). They were a part of his team. I ain't talmbat people who ran their errands and chit.


You get the fukk out of here saying because they were signed with Sony. Alot of artists are signed with Sony. Doesn't mean they'll be successful.

I didn't just say "Sony" though; I said "Sony Urban".

Around the time the got signed, EVERYBODY on Sony Urban was successful...even chit like Sporty Theivyz.
I know what i'm talking about.


Your gripe with Bey sounds petty as hell. Janet Jackson came in the game with GOAT producers. Michael Jackson worked with the best of the best being since he was a child.

But no one uses that against him.

The difference is:

- everybody knows the Jacksons had top-notch producers and talent, they told us themselves.
Bey is over here talking like she's a top notch writer/producer, and she's really not.
And, as someone in here rightly said, folk are treating her like she's Tupac with the pen -
some sort of revolutionary musician. Please.
 

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as a live performer I will give Beyoncé credit. she can dance, sing and actually is a good performer. However, her bee hive makes me not appreciate her as an artist. they are so delusional and care more about her personal life than her music. I wish she didn't keep putting out songs that are for the typical 15-25 hood rat. I wish she put out songs that showed off her vocal ability instead of playin it safe putting out these pop songs.
 

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I never liked janet's music like that...
I never liked beyonce's music like that either but beyonce has more ballads than janet so I've bumped b more than janet
But ya
R kelly the GOAT of R&B
That's all dat matters :wow:

you really sleeping on Janet and her ballad making ability. Go listen to 24 play, the body that loves you, come back to me, anytime anyplace original and remix, funny how time flies. this is just to name on a few.
 

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Nobody cares about Beyonce and her songwriting.

The problem is that she constantly lies and says she writes songs when she has been exposed numerous
Times for not writin shyt. Female 6-fraud.
 

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We need to have a Coli 'Panel Discussion' where some of ya'll get the opportunity to hear how you really sound from post to post and how much your arguments change to fit a certain narrative. Maybe you just don't know enough music history to even qualify for certain discussions, either way:
  1. Are you really mad that Beyonce fanatics ride as hard as they do, or is your real anger directed at the fans of music you like for being so passive? All this time we been screaming fukk the critics, and fukk the industry, I guess by default the only thing left for us to "fukk" are the fans, lol.
  2. Are you really mad that a 35 year old Beyonce is "pretending" to be socially aware? Would it be easier for you if she kept it real? Even if her latest evolution were totally fake you'd still have to say she's doing a whole helluva lot more than most of us will do/have done at the same age.
  3. Remember when songwriting credits used to just have one or two names? It's not cuz less people were involved, ITS CUZ LESS PEOPLE WERE GETTING PROPERLY CREDITED FOR THEIR fukkING CONTRIBUTION!!
  4. Funny how all of a sudden she's a no talent hack when between her, her mom and her dad they ran a whole fukking operation for the first 5 years! People forget about Tina being up 36hrs straight sewing stage costumes. People forget, everything with Destiny's Child/Beyonce was homegrown; hand sewn outfits, they did their own hair and make up, choreography, wrote songs and dad ran the label. So you think after 20 years industry experience she can't put together a video/movie treatment and be hands on working with her TEAM of writers, stylists, dancers, musicians, etc? fukk outta here.
I hate come off as shytting on one person to big up another, but that seems to be the only way to paint a vivid enough picture for it to actually click in some of ya'lls heads. No disrespect, but to call Beyonce manufactured and then turn around site Janet a s a superior talent is mindblowing. Janet's vocals, image and choreography were so....I'll stop cuz I like Janet. Alicia Keys is another artist I like, but only thing separating her from her contemporaries is that damn piano, that doesn't make her more authentic. Most of ya'll would pass out if you knew that just about every major vocalist in that same ilk from Toni Braxton to Brandy, Mariah, Beyonce and everyone in between could play piano! True Alicia is a virtuoso on the keys, but it doesn't come across in her music like say a Roberta Flack or Aretha Franklin. Ironically, Beyonce is probably one of the last organic superstars but gets so much flack for being "manufactured" when truth be told a lot more effort was spent creating images for and marketing most of your favorite [Neo] Soul acts that started out around the same time as Beyonce. I'll leave that one alone too cuz I'm talking about some of my favorite artists, but its the truth.

Beyonces stnnery goes beyond music which is why she gets hate, no one branded Janet as some type of leader of popular feminist movement, in fact even though her brother was called the King no one was lining up to call her the queen either, that era was full of black rnb singers at the top of the game, this era has Beyonce, Rihanna who is like her litt sis and Adelle in a own league, if Beyonce is queen its because she is in the worst era for black music, she can be queen but we have to acknowledge there simply isn't a level playing field or any competition.
 

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ok. beyonce has more range but what good is it when she doesn't knock it out the ballpark and really sing with emotion and feelin'?

you suppose to feel songs, songs suppose to bring out emotions. beyonce's music comes across as lifeless to me

i'm sorry, but beyonce vocally don't move me at all. never has

i can feeeeeeeel this. even with janet's less of a range, she does her thing and makes it work. (beyonce doesn't)

:mjcry: Anyone talkin down Janet CLEARLY NEVER listened to her ... and thats not even a top 5 Janet song imo
 

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Typical Manufactured?!?


Beyonce has worked extremely hard to be where she is.


No Taylor Swift/Katy Perry B.S... But you'll never hear white people trash them.

Coli logic kills me...
Please don't take ANY of these nikkas opinions seriously. It's completely devoid of logic, they just say shyt just to say it
 

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as a live performer I will give Beyoncé credit. she can dance, sing and actually is a good performer. However, her bee hive makes me not appreciate her as an artist. they are so delusional and care more about her personal life than her music. I wish she didn't keep putting out songs that are for the typical 15-25 hood rat. I wish she put out songs that showed off her vocal ability instead of playin it safe putting out these pop songs.
Well she just exactly what you asked .

What did you think of lemonade .


Y'all right the beehive makes you not wanna even like Beyoncé .
 

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Oh yea one thing y'all will hear everyone who has worked for Beyoncé say is she has her hand in EVERYTHING !

Yes she has a team but they also carry her vision out .

I remember the Mamas on breakfast club saying they will rehearse for 14 hours Beyoncé would be there for 20 .


I have so much respect for Beyoncé because it's almost like she knows she has to give u what u pay for . Like she wants to earn your dollars .

Look at this bytch riri while I love her come on . This hoe always canceling shows and sounding a fukking mess on stage .


When has someone been to a Beyoncé show and told u she was less than amazing ?

Man she's inspiring at times she really works hard .
 
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