Beyoncé - Lemonade (Discussion Thread)

[Mike Otherz]

So you like "girls run the world" and "single ladies" fam?

Just say YES or NO don't preach n teach just answer the question.

I come w/facts sir, Beyonce is lagging behind Taylor, Adele, and Katie Perry - in fact, all three of them hold significant album sales records, Beyonce holds none. And she's been around a whole decade prior to them.

Look all this up yourself.

So how is she the GOAT? What criteria are you going by?

Her best music is on her last 3 albums. Don't like run the world. Single ladies not much either. But she has way dope records.

 

[Booker T Garvey]

Prove it, because Forbes' says otherwise:

15 Highest Paid Music Stars of 2016, From The Weeknd to Taylor Swift (Photos)

Taylor Swift Tops Billboard's Top Money-Makers List of 2015


^^^ Unless I've overlooked something, neither of them are on either list.

Katy Perry is tied with Michael Jackson for most #1 singles on an album (only real argument you have so far)

Obliterating Beyoncé in digital sales is laughable. Why? Katy's last album sold 1,600,000+ copies vs. Beyoncé's 2.4 million copies (just comparing their 2013 albums).

My bad that was last year and she was on the cover of Forbes for being the years top earner

Funny though, Taylor swift is #1 on the link you just posted, Adele is #9, beyonce is #34

And look up digital sales where the industry makes their $$$, they are all crushing beyonce, and I haven't even mentioned Rihanna

You cats think people just wake up to "hate", but when you all say dumbshyt like she's the GOAT?! Where?! How? I'm simply asking you all to prove it, it's hating because I disagree and simply want cats to back up their claims?!

The GOAT is suppose to be dominating the charts, album/singles sales, and the concert circuit. All three. She's killing the concert world, but everywhere else she's garbage

 

[Dame Time]

Katy Perry was the highest grossing artist this year

She holds the record for most #1 singles on an album

She's obliterating beyonce in digital singles sold

All this talk about compare her to rnb singers and 3 year old data, what album was the best blah blah blah...that's all the shyt that's in your heart which is where you need to keep it.

None of you are debunking my arguments

That's my GOAT

 

[Standing on business]

Just stop, them other hoes (expect maybe Adele) ain't doing this across the globe in 2016

 

[Booker T Garvey]

Grown nikkaz taking time out their day to debate why Beyoncé is trash. Insecure much? She makes fun music. Is a dope entertainer. That's her lane. She is fantastic at it.

Sometimes I feel "deep" music is overrated. If it blinds you to how dope Beyoncé is then maybe it is. I can confidently say she the baddest since prime Janet. Prime Janet

Ever notice that when nikkas can't debate or have no solid arguments they fall back on the "hater" stance like insurance.


nikka Janet didn't make "deep" music, but she made way better music than beyonce

You gonna sit up here and lie and act like beyonce has ever done anything as creative as the "Alright"song and video?! The cab Calloway homage?

In fact, her twerking and sexy dances are cool, but where's Beyonce's "rhythm nation" type dance routine? Is she even capable of that?

 

[Booker T Garvey]

Just stop, them other hoes (expect maybe Adele) ain't doing this across the globe in 2016

I've already conceded that she's an arena filler

Tina Turner was filling up arenas like this too, for decades. She's an icon and a legend.

But nobody would call her the GOAT

The GOAT at what? Filling up arenas? She knew her lane and stayed in it.

I'm just saying stop trying to make beyonce out to be a legitimate artist or musician, shes just the new Tina Turner.

 

[Francis White]

yeah, obviously she's winnin' because she's got fans and stans all over but i ain't 1 of em'
she just comes off mechanical to me. like a robot or like a puppet
sayin' she's the goat of her generation ain't sayin' much at all when there's no competition

You sound like a typical Coli hater.
You want the old days but those days are long gone.

 

[I love Latina women]

You sound like a typical Coli hater.
You want the old days but those days are long gone.

believe me when i say this, please, i'm not hatin' on her at all. i'm just sayin' what i think and have always thought about her as an artist.
i will admit, i want the old days and i know that they are long gone BUT that also doesn't mean because they are, that i can't call somethin' fo what I think it is

 

[director_of_bands]

yeah, obviously she's winnin' because she's got fans and stans all over but i ain't 1 of em'
she just comes off mechanical to me. like a robot or like a puppet
sayin' she's the goat of her generation ain't sayin' much at all when there's no competition

real talk!!...and why is this thread upped right now when solange is just now getting just a little bit of shine ...beyonce fans are so fckn selfish and disgusting

 

[I love Latina women]

real talk!!...and why is this thread upped right now when solange is just now getting just a little bit of shine ...beyonce fans are so fckn selfish and disgusting

yeah
the thing is with beyonce fans and obviously stans, they get so uptight about her, that they don't allow people who see things differently from them ANY leeway from their own opinion

 

[JustCKing]

My bad that was last year and she was on the cover of Forbes for being the years top earner

Funny though, Taylor swift is #1 on the link you just posted, Adele is #9, beyonce is #34

And look up digital sales where the industry makes their $$$, they are all crushing beyonce, and I haven't even mentioned Rihanna

You cats think people just wake up to "hate", but when you all say dumbshyt like she's the GOAT?! Where?! How? I'm simply asking you all to prove it, it's hating because I disagree and simply want cats to back up their claims?!

The GOAT is suppose to be dominating the charts, album/singles sales, and the concert circuit. All three. She's killing the concert world, but everywhere else she's garbage

You're wrong. Katy Perry isn't obliterating Beyoncé in digital sales:

Beyoncé Destroys iTunes Sales Record

Beyonce holds her title as the fastest selling digital album on iTunes in 24 hours, Adele ’25’ is #2

According to Apple AAPL +0.97%, Beyoncé reached the top spot on the iTunes charts in 104 countries en route to selling 828,773 copies worldwide in its first three days–including 617,213 in the U.S. That’s more than the combined opening week sales of Katy Perry’s PRISM and Lady Gaga’s ARTPOP, and the numbers make Beyoncé’s latest effort the fastest-selling album in iTunes history.

Breaking Down Beyonce's Record-Breaking Album Launch

And more recently:

Lemonade is 2016’s third-biggest-selling album and one of only two albums released in 2016 to sell at least one million copies. Drake’s Views, with 1.196 million sold, is the other. Adele’s 25 -- which was released in 2015 -- is 2016’s best-seller, with 1.334 million sold this year. (In total, 25 has sold 8.774 million.)

Beyonce Scores Her Sixth Million-Selling Album in U.S. With 'Lemonade'

especially with Rihanna who has barely moved 500K without Samsung while Beyoncé is at 1.2 million. The only thing Rihanna has over Beyoncé is singles.

 

[Booker T Garvey]

You're wrong. Katy Perry isn't obliterating Beyoncé in digital sales:

Beyoncé Destroys iTunes Sal

you keep posting articles because you don't want to talk about the raw numbers:

Rihanna is the best selling digital singles artist of all time (that matters whether we like it or not)
List of best-selling singles in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Best selling singles of all time both digital and non-digital - beyonce trails behind a slew of her peers (including quite a few Katy Perry singles)
List of best-selling singles - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Best selling artists overall of all time - Beyonce is lagging behind Rihanna and Taylor Swift 2 artists that started their careers well after her - they tally up SINGLES in this but people behind the desks in the music business, ask them if that matters
List of best-selling music artists - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Best selling albums of all time - beyonce isn't even on this list; Adele, Eminem and Usher are on here, I list them because they are her current counterparts, most of these people are retired/dead/not relevant
List of best-selling albums - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I found a list with Beyonce on it, her album "Dangerous in love" sold 12 million and it is listed in the top selling albums of the 21st century - this is her best selling album
List of best-selling albums of the 2000s (century) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

^^^ just raw numbers. no opinions, no emotions, no bias. again. how is Beyonce the GOAT?

 

[JustCKing]

you keep posting articles because you don't want to talk about the raw numbers:

Rihanna is the best selling digital singles artist of all time (that matters whether we like it or not)
List of best-selling singles in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Best selling singles of all time both digital and non-digital - beyonce trails behind a slew of her peers (including quite a few Katy Perry singles)
List of best-selling singles - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Best selling artists overall of all time - Beyonce is lagging behind Rihanna and Taylor Swift 2 artists that started their careers well after her - they tally up SINGLES in this but people behind the desks in the music business, ask them if that matters
List of best-selling music artists - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Best selling albums of all time - beyonce isn't even on this list; Adele, Eminem and Usher are on here, I list them because they are her current counterparts, most of these people are retired/dead/not relevant
List of best-selling albums - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I found a list with Beyonce on it, her album "Dangerous in love" sold 12 million and it is listed in the top selling albums of the 21st century - this is her best selling album
List of best-selling albums of the 2000s (century) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

^^^ just raw numbers. no opinions, no emotions, no bias. again. how is Beyonce the GOAT?

Did you not see where I said the only thing Rihanna has over Beyoncé is SINGLES? Take away the singles and see where Rihanna stands in comparison to Beyoncé.

Now you want to bring in raw numbers when a post ago you were talking about digital. Beyoncé is still ahead of Katy in terms of raw numbers. The only thing either of them have over Beyoncé is singles.

FACT: Beyoncé's album sales are consistently >>>>> Rihanna's and Katy. Albums cost more and are a much difficult sale than a $.99 to $1.99 single.

 

[Booker T Garvey]

Did you not see where I said the only thing Rihanna has over Beyoncé is SINGLES? Take away the singles and see where Rihanna stands in comparison to Beyoncé.

Now you want to bring in raw numbers when a post ago you were talking about digital. Beyoncé is still ahead of Katy in terms of raw numbers. The only thing either of them have over Beyoncé is singles.

FACT: Beyoncé's album sales are consistently >>>>> Rihanna's and Katy. Albums cost more and are a much difficult sale than a $.99 to $1.99 single.

Fam you're all over the place

1) Raw numbers mean just overall numbers, not how fast someone went platinum or if they broke an ITunes record - btw, how did you get that raw = non digital? I never separated the two

2) Rihanna is crushing everybody in singles sales - she's not pushing a lot of albums but that's not her forte apparently but in this era, that's huge.

3) now you're factoring in album costs to support your argument - look, post some sales figures that supports your argument that Beyonce is crushing Rihanna and Katy Perry's careers. Just one thing.

 

[JustCKing]

Fam you're all over the place

1) Raw numbers mean just overall numbers, not how fast someone went platinum or if they broke an ITunes record - btw, how did you get that raw = non digital? I never separated the two

2) Rihanna is crushing everybody in singles sales - she's not pushing a lot of albums but that's not her forte apparently but in this era, that's huge.

3) now you're factoring in album costs to support your argument - look, post some sales figures that supports your argument that Beyonce is crushing Rihanna and Katy Perry's careers. Just one thing.

1) I already posted raw numbers for Beyoncé's overall albums and in that department, she's clearly ahead of both of them. In fact, you were the one who said that Katy "obliterates" Beyoncé in regard to digital sales. Then you turn around and strictly make it about singles when proof was posted of Beyoncé "obliterating" Katy Perry in terms of digital album sales in regard to their last releases.

2) Rihanna being a singles artist was already noted. And again, in an era where a single costs $.99 and you're a singles artists, that's not hard to do. It's actually a laughable comparison to someone who is selling albums, which is why I brought up cost.

3) Sales figures have already been posted that support Beyoncé's career crushing Rihanna's and Katy's. Neither of them have sold as many albums as Beyoncé. Their tours don't gross as much as Beyoncé's either:

List of highest-grossing concert tours - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

As of June 2016, in the United States, Beyoncé has sold 17.2 million albums as a solo artist,[

Beyoncé discography - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

She has released seven Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) certified platinum and multi-platinum albums in the United States, that have totalled sales of over 10 million copies in the country

Rihanna discography - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Perry has been certified for 83.5 million digital singles and 6 million albums in the United States as of October 2015

Katy Perry discography - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Beyoncé= 17.2 million albums sold

Rihanna= 10 million+ albums sold

Katy Perry= 6 million albums sold