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Nope. I said you can’t accurately determine what “today” actually is when they’ve changed the times (TWICE), don’t have the same number of days in a year as the Hebrews did, they don’t start the year at the same time the Hebrews did, and they don’t measure days in the same way the Hebrews did. The Most High gave us a calendar to go by and that never changed even when He sent people to change the times for everyone else. Centuries at least of following the wrong calendar and you think that you’re following the Most High by simply translating what day the people who changed the times say it is into the Hebrew. And then try to use that to shame others. But in all actuality that ain’t how it really works.. And even with that said I’d never shame someone who as at least trying to follow the laws. But that’s what he did

And he did it because both you and he can’t defend your faith in that Jesus character. Deuteronomy 13 says that the Most High would send a false prophet that made signs and wonders that came to pass. But He said you should hold fast to His laws and commandments. So if you can’t prove your beliefs with the laws and commandments what does that say about your faith?
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To start, what's the Hebrew word for calendar?

It is interesting that there is none. The concept of calendar is Greco-Roman and steeped in confusion. The 'calendar' is literally the sun, moon and stars.

...And the 7 day count.

Yah has implemented a time keeping system that is continuous and based on observation and count. I am sure you are well aware that the Sun, Moon and Stars act as a celestial clock, analogized as hour hand/Sun, minute hand/Moon, second hand/Stars. We know the Sun counts days, the Moon counts months and the Stars corroborate the Sun and count sections of years. The book of Enoch specifically details how this works.

I will repeat, without the book of Enoch, time keeping is impossible. The book of Enoch is mentioned by name and quoted by The Messiah and several New Testament figures.

There is also the seven day count, a secondary time keeping method outside of the sky clock.

Many choose to believe that the seven day count can be found with the Sun, or Moon, but this is flawed because it started before the Sun and Moon were created. It has to be given, and maintained, since the beginning of time. It is very hard to believe that the initial 7 day count has been maintained from the beginning of time until now. But it has.

Beginning at the Flood, the stream of calendrical knowledge, specifically that of the 7th day, has been passed through the line of Shem all the way to this present day. It has been nearly lost on several occasions, sometimes with just one man on earth observing it (Abraham), but through the common era can be tracked, unbroken, unto present time. It is the last relic of our society that has remained, even through the breaks in the roman catholic calendar.

We know this to be the case because the Gregorian Calendar is not the only calendar that has been in use for the past 1500 years, nor is Catholicism the only religion that tracks the 7 day count. Jewish communities, converts and actual, all over the world kept count and writings. Muslim communities too. Even with the abrupt date changes and switches the Gregorian Calendar has made, it has not strayed from the seven day count, verified by each differing community of Abrahamic religions. Even 1st century journalists describe a situation where Greco Roman Christians began worshipping on Sunday (the 8th day of the then roman calendar), opposing Jews (both Messianic and Non Messianic) who maintained Saturday (7th day) worship.

So we have the Sabbath, We have the writings of Enoch and we have the instructions in the Torah. In past generations, one or more of these elements may have been missing in our community, so we would not have had the ability to keep the Sabbath and feasts properly.

But today knowledge abounds, so we can.
 
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Only people i see doing that are "Hebrew Israelites". I don't think anybody takes them seriously.
You would be wrong about that. The bible is written specifically to a family, and not to the whole world. This family is are the ancestors of both Eber and Jacob, who are conversely known as Hebrews and Israelites.

These people today are the victims of the transatlantic slave trade, scattered to the four corners of the earth, from Africa, to America, from Amsterdam to Australia, known to the world as Negros, but to satan as the chosen people of Yah.

James 1
1 James, a servant of God and of Adon Yahusha Mashiah, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.
 

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You would be wrong about that. The bible is written specifically to a family, and not to the whole world. This family is are the ancestors of both Eber and Jacob, who are conversely known as Hebrews and Israelites.

These people today are the victims of the transatlantic slave trade, scattered to the four corners of the earth, from Africa, to America, from Amsterdam to Australia, known to the world as Negros, but to satan as the chosen people of Yah.

James 1
1 James, a servant of God and of Adon Yahusha Mashiah, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.
Yeah i know about all that breh but what that has to do with having more than 1 wife?
The rule in the scriptures is 1 man 1 woman, not multiple women.
 

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Yeah i know about all that breh but what that has to do with having more than 1 wife?
The rule in the scriptures is 1 man 1 woman, not multiple women.
That is the standard model without question. It is also the most advisable model. It is the model I choose for myself. It is not the only model, however. Biblically, there are righteous men from both models. It is western to feel that the two are polar opposite, in Israelite society they exist successfully side by side.
 

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That is the standard model without question. It is also the most advisable model. It is the model I choose for myself. It is not the only model, however. Biblically, there are righteous men from both models. It is western to feel that the two are polar opposite, in Israelite society they exist successfully side by side.
As you said it only works in a "matured" minded society, i think we're far from that.
 

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religion is the industrialization of spirituality.

the oldest monument on earth is the pyramids which predated every written word which means predated every religion ... so what was the pyramids all about? it was constructed so the people can go to the top and pray.

we prayed to the sun back then, but basically man well good man has always been of faith and love and understanding. to see a black man adopt the western mentality of needing proof like a matterist. just the matter nothing else well thats sad as shyt! grown black men dont really know where the source of their powers come from.

your enemy knows, and created a world to make you weaker and your lack of faith appealing. :hubie:
 

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Just going to leave this here.

The Parable of the Wedding Feast

Matthew 22
(1) And again Jesus spoke to them in parables, saying, (2) “The kingdom of heaven may be compared to a king who gave a wedding feast for his son, (3) and sent his servants to call those who were invited to the wedding feast, but they would not come. (4) Again he sent other servants, saying, ‘Tell those who are invited, “See, I have prepared my dinner, my oxen and my fat calves have been slaughtered, and everything is ready. Come to the wedding feast.”’ (5) But they paid no attention and went off, one to his farm, another to his business, (6) while the rest seized his servants, treated them shamefully, and killed them. (7) The king was angry, and he sent his troops and destroyed those murderers and burned their city. (8) Then he said to his servants, ‘The wedding feast is ready, but those invited were not worthy. (9) Go therefore to the main roads and invite to the wedding feast as many as you find.’ (10) And those servants went out into the roads and gathered all whom they found, both bad and good. So the wedding hall was filled with guests.

(11) “But when the king came in to look at the guests, he saw there a man who had no wedding garment. (12) And he said to him, ‘Friend, how did you get in here without a wedding garment?’ And he was speechless. (13) Then the king said to the attendants, ‘Bind him hand and foot and cast him into the outer darkness. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’ (14) For many are called, but few are chosen.”


religion is the industrialization of spirituality.

the oldest monument on earth is the pyramids which predated every written word which means predated every religion ... so what was the pyramids all about? it was constructed so the people can go to the top and pray.

 

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Just going to leave this here.

The Parable of the Wedding Feast

Matthew 22
(1)
And again Jesus spoke to them in parables, saying, (2) “The kingdom of heaven may be compared to a king who gave a wedding feast for his son, (3) and sent his servants to call those who were invited to the wedding feast, but they would not come. (4) Again he sent other servants, saying, ‘Tell those who are invited, “See, I have prepared my dinner, my oxen and my fat calves have been slaughtered, and everything is ready. Come to the wedding feast.”’ (5) But they paid no attention and went off, one to his farm, another to his business, (6) while the rest seized his servants, treated them shamefully, and killed them. (7) The king was angry, and he sent his troops and destroyed those murderers and burned their city. (8) Then he said to his servants, ‘The wedding feast is ready, but those invited were not worthy. (9) Go therefore to the main roads and invite to the wedding feast as many as you find.’ (10) And those servants went out into the roads and gathered all whom they found, both bad and good. So the wedding hall was filled with guests.

(11) “But when the king came in to look at the guests, he saw there a man who had no wedding garment. (12) And he said to him, ‘Friend, how did you get in here without a wedding garment?’ And he was speechless. (13) Then the king said to the attendants, ‘Bind him hand and foot and cast him into the outer darkness. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’ (14) For many are called, but few are chosen.”





Great Parable.

Be ready. :ufdup:
 

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1.) God said time is running out.

2.) Seek your relationship with Jesus Christ while you have time.

3.) Jesus is the way not anything else.

4.) Your salvation is in Jesus Christ and it is your responsibility to protect it.


 
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