Bible believer thread
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post your pic then. I still don’t know who you are 
Chez Lopez
Neo-Abolitionist
so here's the deal.
satanism is a terrorist organization that targets black people for destruction. They recognize who the children of Israel are and they target them for extermination. its satans prerogative to kill the jews and we are them. that is his goal and why america is like it is.
Unless they have sought you for salvation, you allow them to pass along their way.
satanism is a terrorist organization that targets black people for destruction. They recognize who the children of Israel are and they target them for extermination. its satans prerogative to kill the jews and we are them. that is his goal and why america is like it is.
Unless they have sought you for salvation, you allow them to pass along their way.
Chez Lopez
Neo-Abolitionist
Beware your own judgment, that’s where the accuser dwells and makes his habitation
John 5:22-47
22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:
23 That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.
24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.
26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;
27 And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man.
28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.
31 If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true.
32 There is another that beareth witness of me; and I know that the witness which he witnesseth of me is true.
33 Ye sent unto John, and he bare witness unto the truth.
34 But I receive not testimony from man: but these things I say, that ye might be saved.
35 He was a burning and a shining light: and ye were willing for a season to rejoice in his light.
36 But I have greater witness than that of John: for the works which the Father hath given me to finish, the same works that I do, bear witness of me, that the Father hath sent me.
37 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.
38 And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him ye believe not.
39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.
41 I receive not honour from men.
42 But I know you, that ye have not the love of God in you.
43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.
44 How can ye believe, which receive honour one of another, and seek not the honour that cometh from God only?
45 Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust.
46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me; for he wrote of me.
47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?
Chez Lopez
Neo-Abolitionist
Matt 23
"23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone."
Be careful quoting Yahusha in Greek. There are two concepts of judgement in hebrew: one is right ruling whether for punishment or for praise, the other is condemnation unto death. The Greek does not distinguish which judgement is being spoken.
The lack of righteous judgement is the same that allows children to claim gay, or allow men to sag their pants, or doesn't stop and speak up for right ruling in the community. For fear of being 'too judgemental'. Messiah actually provides righteous judgement all the time, and never condemnation (which is only in Yah's hands).
1 Corintians 6
"2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? 3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?"
Good distinction
As a father I also have to be mindful of what has been entrusted to me and what has not. My household is my responsibility and those who seek shelter with me. Those outside of the umbrella I have to be guarded or be carried away. That’s the beauty of the forum/message board is we can reach each other with just our thumbs which is a blessing in itself
Chez Lopez
Neo-Abolitionist
Anytime someone can be exposed to the Torah and the gospels is an opportunity to save a life and potentially a soul also. I think all believers would agree with that goal! @Koichos @Sccit @LiIZaneFan1978
LiIZaneFan1978
2PAC BACK
Yea it doesn’t. I’m here tho for whenever you want to support your position with anything more than “I say so.” I gave you the floor to present what leads you to that conclusion and you won’t put anything down
Based on what calendar, my guy? And how do you count your days and how did the Israelites biblically?
And even if so, yes I’m about promoting keeping Gods commandments. Now why would me promoting that mean that I myself is perfect at doing so?
Breh respectfully have you even read the Torah? Counting days and months are very basic concepts that you must understand if you’re teaching others to keep Torah.
If your argument is that the Romans changed the times so why bother keeping Shabbat and the moedim, do you also believe the Romans changed the moon? Because that’s how the biblical calendar works and that’s how we track our months even in 2022. Toraht YHWH tamimah, The Law of The Lord is Perfect.
And I didn’t tell you you had to be perfect at keeping God’s commandments, I’m far from perfect… but seeing someone teach Torah who doesn’t even keep Shabbat or understand the feasts is laughable ach.
You’re telling people to do something that you don’t do yourself.
Everythingg
King-Over-Kingz
Huh? Once the Romans changed the calendar you can’t keep the feast days or sabbath anymore. You have no way of determining what “today” is when they changed the calendar, added days to the year plus “leap years” and the way they determine a day isn’t the same as the way the Hebrews determined a day. But tell me how you with all these changes you can reverse all that and tell me what exactly “today” actually is? It’s not as simple as translating what they say today is to the Hebrew. You’re probably one of those guys that thinks the Saturday of every week is the sabbath
I discussed beliefs that people have concerning the Bible in a Bible discussion thread. You pulled out a magnifying glass to determine someone else’s track record of keeping the commandments. See the difference? And it’s all because you nor the other character can adequately defend the beliefs you have using the law. And that’s because there’s really no defense for it. So of course you shift the conversation from that to where we are now. But that’s cool, just teach me how you reversed all the changing of times to adequately know what “today” is because simply translating it being the third day of the week to whatever the third day of the week in Hebrew is isn’t how it works
LiIZaneFan1978
2PAC BACK
Huh? Once the Romans changed the calendar you can’t keep the feast days or sabbath anymore. You have no way of determining what “today” is when they changed the calendar, added days to the year plus “leap years” and the way they determine a day isn’t the same as the way the Hebrews determined a day. But tell me how you with all these changes you can reverse all that and tell me what exactly “today” actually is? It’s not as simple as translating what they say today is to the Hebrew. You’re probably one of those guys that thinks the Saturday of every week is the sabbath
I discussed beliefs that people have concerning the Bible in a Bible discussion thread. You pulled out a magnifying glass to determine someone else’s track record of keeping the commandments. See the difference? And it’s all because you nor the other character can adequately defend the beliefs you have using the law. And that’s because there’s really no defense for it. So of course you shift the conversation from that to where we are now. But that’s cool, just teach me how you reversed all the changing of times to adequately know what “today” is because simply translating it being the third day of the week to whatever the third day of the week in Hebrew is isn’t how it works
Ach you used the Law to try to confound Christians, now you’re using the Romans to try to negate the Law.
It’s clear that you don’t really believe in any of this, you just like to argue. I’ve been there before so I understand.
The fact that you think the Gregorian calendar has anything to do with how or when we keep our biblical feast days shows that you haven’t even done adequate research to defend your pseudo pro-Torah stance.
The fact that you went from “sabbath is the 7th day” to “you’re probably one of those guys that think Saturday of every week is the sabbath” shows that you’re more confused than anyone you’re accusing of being confused.
This ain’t the hill to die on and it’s never too late to change brother. Practice what you preach and come back to these laws frfr. Stop wasting your life trolling religious people and become the changes that you claim you’d like to see in others.
Delve into Torah and also into history, learn how and when these changes took place. Understand the differences between the Gregorian, Julian and Hebrew calendars so you can thoroughly assess what day you believe to be the 7th day. Then do like the 4th commandment and Zakor Et Yom Ha Shabbat L’kadsho, Remember The Sabbath Day To Keep it Holy.
The Most High says these statutes are to be kept forever, don’t let that go over your head. Shalom.
Chez Lopez
Neo-Abolitionist
This is good doctrine and advice!
Everythingg
King-Over-Kingz
It’s funny how this is a discussion thread yet none of you can have one lol. I said they changed the calendar so what is “today” when they’ve added days to the years for centuries including leap years? And they’ve at least changed the times TWICE? No answer. The way they count days is different as well. No answer. You have no rebuttal for the things I’m saying just rambling on and on looking for a gotcha moment.
And confound Christians? By saying there’s no room for a Jesus in the law? You couldn’t even rebut that but want to get out a Torah checklist for what I am or am not following lol. if you knew what you think you do you’d be able to have a discussion about it
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Chez Lopez
Neo-Abolitionist
I would love to have a calendar discussion, just wanted to get your stance clear here.
Are you saying that the Sabbath and the feast days are impossible to find, so we should not keep them?
