Yes the content is there, the algorithm in America has been proven to be on bullshyt. These vids are no promoted as much as dumb dancing shyt and dramaso what!!!
if you want stem content go look for it and they'll starting recommending it to you.
so because users aren't initially spoon fed content you approve of mandated by government regulation, it should be banned?
theres tons of STEM related videos on tiktok
Med Student uses TikTok to share information about Black health issues
Joel Bervell is sharing short and trendy videos to better inform Black followers. One video convinced a woman to seek medical attentionwhyy.org
https://www.tiktok.com/@coolchemistryguy
https://www.tiktok.com/@instituteofhumananatomy
https://www.tiktok.com/@coolchemistryguy
https://www.tiktok.com/@jayprehistoricpets
https://www.tiktok.com/@thephysicshouse
https://www.tiktok.com/@neildegrassetyson
https://www.tiktok.com/@billnye
https://www.tiktok.com/@styro_pyro
https://www.tiktok.com/@interestingengineering
https://www.tiktok.com/@astro_spaceflight
https://www.tiktok.com/@mathswithmisschang
https://www.tiktok.com/@lklogic
https://www.tiktok.com/@astroathens
https://www.tiktok.com/@nilered
https://www.tiktok.com/@techience
https://www.tiktok.com/@chemteacherphil
https://www.tiktok.com/@mags4science
https://www.tiktok.com/@blondiebytes
https://www.tiktok.com/@lab_shenanigans
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they are in the business of making money, if the americans wanted the type of content you approve on on their frontpage thats what they would have shown. go use a vpn and look up content from different states and countries to see what they get served by default. the content you prefer that is on chinas version of tiktok douyin is due tp government censors. I and other other like-minded americans don't need or want the government to dictate what content online platforms can make available to me.
youtube trending is "bullshyt" because thats what people are using it for.
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And WHO pray tell is in charge of that algorithm?
China would kill TikTok a thousand times before they let that proprietary information out to a western owner, and the Administration knows that. TikTok has NO VALUE without the backend coding that comes with it. That Algorithm isn't "on bullshyt" it's purposefully tuned to numb western minds. There's a reason the same content isn't allowed on China's version of the app. The average American is NOT going to grab a VPN just to look at more meaningful content.
How do people not see that as problematic?
Problem is shoving STEM books, videos, etc. in people's faces won't get them or push them to learn it.
Our country has too many people with ADHD (and no dedication) for that. They're just going to go to any other form of entertainment.
At the end of the day, Tiktok isn't the reason people don't study this stuff. That's reality and a scapegoat.
Only 45% of people have a college degree and only 14% of all college degrees are STEM in America. That was before and during Tiktok.
Us people in this field have been saying that: not everyone is built for it, no matter how many STEM videos on Tiktok, Youtube, etc. you throw at them.
People who get STEM degrees either:
1. Have the capacity for it to the point it's really easy.
2. Have the discipline to shut out ALL distractions, focus on learning the material and getting it done.
3. Have the time, grit and resiliency to never give up until they learn and finish what they're studying despite how many times they've failed to learn it in the past.
Most people do not fit into any of those three categories.
If the government really wants to get more people finishing STEM, they need to make a smart pill.
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DEMOCRATS ARE CONTROLLED OPPOSITION
Why is this so hard for y'all to understand? They don't do a single fukking thing to improve AMERICAN lives when they have the power. Always some excuses while we see dikkhead Republicans doing whatever underhanded shyt they need to do to get their bills passed like they tell their people they will.
Everything in this country is controlled by corporations, including the political parties.
Man, it's I'm seeing it more and more now.DEMOCRATS ARE CONTROLLED OPPOSITION
Why is this so hard for y'all to understand? They don't do a single fukking thing to improve AMERICAN lives when they have the power. Always some excuses while we see dikkhead Republicans doing whatever underhanded shyt they need to do to get their bills passed like they tell their people they will.
Everything in this country is controlled by corporations, including the political parties.
I'm getting really tired seeing Democrats pass shyt with "compromises"
quick af.Yet move at a snail's pace, "forget" about other issues or come up with some half-ass solution that doesn't address the problem at all.
This party thats's supposed to fight for me (and the underdog), seems more like they're trying to play games and get their's first.
I'm just honestly getting tired of it.
Yeah, the other side is shytty, but this side ain't doing any better and people overrate their empathy. Really overrate it. Starting to see that a lot more now.
We see how quick they can move when they want something done. It's all in plain site now and they're looking suspicious as fukk to me. They either are bought out or just Republicans at their deep core pretending to care (and sometimes doing a bad job at hiding it).
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Yeah when you even look at the things they "do" like refunds on trips, ending non compete clauses, fight for student loan forgiveness, (while these are great for someone like me) these are really only issues that upper middle class Americans face. That's the Democrats in 2024. The party for the upper middle class who don't necessarily want to take away current existing programs, but only want to do things that will help the upper middle class to the elites. There is nothing politically going on for the average 48k a year American on either side right now.DEMOCRATS ARE CONTROLLED OPPOSITION
Why is this so hard for y'all to understand? They don't do a single fukking thing to improve AMERICAN lives when they have the power. Always some excuses while we see dikkhead Republicans doing whatever underhanded shyt they need to do to get their bills passed like they tell their people they will.
Everything in this country is controlled by corporations, including the political parties.
And WHO pray tell is in charge of that algorithm?
China would kill TikTok a thousand times before they let that proprietary information out to a western owner, and the Administration knows that. TikTok has NO VALUE without the backend coding that comes with it. That Algorithm isn't "on bullshyt" it's purposefully tuned to numb western minds. There's a reason the same content isn't allowed on China's version of the app. The average American is NOT going to grab a VPN just to look at more meaningful content.
How do people not see that as problematic?
the reason is government regulation.
free speech is codified in our constitution, it's just that simple.
68 Things You Cannot Say on China’s Internet (Published 2017)
China’s censorship system is expanding forbidden topics far beyond politics, in line with President Xi Jinping’s prim, paternalistic vision for the “China dream.”
21st century China or 1950s America? With Beijing’s censors, it’s hard to tell
Recent high-profile censorship cases such as altering episodes of sitcom Friends and an embarrassing backdown over a changed ending to film Fight Club have highlighted a significant shift in the China’s approach to censorship.
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China bans men it sees as not masculine enough from TV
By JOE McDONALD an hour ago
FILE - In this June 4, 2021, file photo, a television shows a broadcast of a Chinese talk show program as it sits beneath a photo of Chinese President Xi Jinping in a home converted into a tourist homestay in Zhaxigang village near Nyingchi in western China's Tibet Autonomous Region. China's government banned effeminate men on TV and told broadcasters Thursday, Sept. 2, 2021 to promote "revolutionary culture," broadening a campaign to tighten control over business and society and enforce official morality. (AP Photo/Mark Schiefelbein, File)
FILE - In this Oct. 21, 2017, file photo, Chinese women walk past advertisement featuring teen idol Lu Han, also known as China's Justin Bieber in Beijing. China's government banned effeminate men on TV and told broadcasters Thursday, Sept. 2, 2021 to promote "revolutionary culture," broadening a campaign to tighten control over business and society and enforce official morality. (AP Photo/Ng Han Guan, File)
BEIJING (AP) — China’s government banned effeminate men on TV and told broadcasters Thursday to promote “revolutionary culture,” broadening a campaign to tighten control over business and society and enforce official morality.
President Xi Jinping has called for a “national rejuvenation,” with tighter Communist Party control of business, education, culture and religion. Companies and the public are under increasing pressure to align with its vision for a more powerful China and healthier society.
The party has reduced children’s access to online games and is trying to discourage what it sees as unhealthy attention to celebrities.
Broadcasters must “resolutely put an end to sissy men and other abnormal esthetics,” the TV regulator said, using an insulting slang term for effeminate men — “niang pao,” or literally, “girlie guns.”
That reflects official concern that Chinese pop stars, influenced by the sleek, girlish look of some South Korean and Japanese singers and actors, are failing to encourage China’s young men to be masculine enough.
Broadcasters should avoid promoting “vulgar internet celebrities” and admiration of wealth and celebrity, the regulator said. Instead, programs should “vigorously promote excellent Chinese traditional culture, revolutionary culture and advanced socialist culture.”
Xi’s government also is tightening control over Chinese internet industries.
It has launched anti-monopoly, data security and other enforcement actions at companies including games and social media provider Tencent Holding and e-commerce giant Alibaba Group that the ruling party worries are too big and independent.
Rules that took effect Wednesday limit anyone under 18 to three hours per week of online games and prohibit play on school days.
Game developers already were required to submit new titles for government approval before they could be released. Officials have called on them to add nationalistic themes.
The party also is tightening control over celebrities.
Broadcasters should avoid performers who “violate public order” or have “lost morality,” the regulator said. Programs about the children of celebrities also are banned.
On Saturday, microblog platform Weibo Corp. suspended thousands of accounts for fan clubs and entertainment news.
A popular actress, Zhao Wei, has disappeared from streaming platforms without explanation. Her name has been removed from credits of movies and TV programs.
Thursday’s order told broadcasters to limit pay for performers and to avoid contract terms that might help them evade taxes.
Another actress, Zheng Shuang, was fined 299 million yuan ($46 million) last week on tax evasion charges in a warning to celebrities to be positive role models.
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National Radio and TV Administration: www.nrta.gov.cn
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China has banned women from modeling lingerie on online shopping livestreams — so men are doing it instead
Following a government ban on women modeling lingerie on livestreams in China, businesses are bypassing the rule by using male models instead.www.insider.com
Reena Koh Mar 1, 2023, 7:45 PM
Male models are replacing women in e-commerce livestreams selling lingerie in China. @xiaojingcanxue/Twitter
- China has a ban on women modeling lingerie on online shopping livestreams.
- Livestreams that ignore the ban are shut down, and offenders can be charged for disseminating obscene material.
- To bypass this rule, online lingerie businesses are hiring men to do the modeling instead.
China's livestream shopping scene is a booming industry that is projected to be worth more than $700 billion by this year, according to Statista.
The industry is said to account for about 10% of the country's e-commerce revenue, according to McKinsey.
Livestreams featuring females modeling lingerie have had a history of being promptly shut down and banned as a result of China's law against spreading obscene material online.
To work around this ban, some of these businesses have recently started hiring male models to flaunt women's lingerie. One of the first broadcasts was held last December.
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Some Chinese netizens are amused by this attempt at dodging the loophole. "The guy wears it better than the girl," a comment on a video clip of the livestream on Douyin — China's TikTok — garners almost two hundred likes.
Others are saying that using mannequins would be a better alternative to accurately modeling the lingerie. A few comments on Weibo — a Chinese social media platform — also say that this trend is "depriving women of job opportunities."
"If it's a female model, the livestream would be banned every other minute, it's not like this hasn't happened before, this is still depriving a group of women of their job opportunities," a comment with 130,000 likes read.
Male broadcasters modeling traditionally female products are in fact not new to the scene. One of the industry's most popular lipstick models, Austin Li Jiaqi, is male and was even dubbed the "Lipstick King" in China by fans.
"Personally, we don't really have a choice. The designs can't be modeled by our female colleagues, so we will use our male colleagues to model it," the owner of a livestream business referred to as "Mr. Xu" told Jiupai News in an interview.
According to Xu, many other lingerie livestream e-commerce businesses were inspired by his idea and have started following suit.
Regarding comments on women being unfairly deprived of jobs, the owner told Jiupai News that he finds the assertion ridiculous.
"Many directors of these livestreams are women, are they also stealing men's jobs?" Xu said in the interview with Jiupai News.
Although the livestream e-commerce industry has achieved a massive following in China, the same shopping trend has been failing to replicate its popularity in the US.
"People in China go to live-stream shopping events because of great discounts," Alessandro Bogliari, CEO of Miami-based agency The Influencer Marketing Factory, told the South China Morning Post. "In contrast, most US platforms do not provide any strong push to live shopping events on their sites, and there are not enough good hosts," Bogliari said.
It seems that what began as a witty scheme has evolved into a marketing strategy that has enabled certain businesses to distinguish themselves from the numerous other e-commerce shops selling lingerie.
Correct. But while China literally says what you can and can't show on the platform...there is not one law that is stopping you from saying anything online. This does not infringe on free speech. Period.
This is like saying the police raiding a church that's abusing kids is infringing on your right to religion.
it absolutely does infringe on free speech, tiktok also has free speech rights as well. content that is removed or restricted from METAs facebook and instagram, youtube and even twitter can be found on tiktok. like content creators KNOW what's permissible and what isn't on all major platforms. it's completely disingenuous to imply that teh content on all platforms is the same and like the UI for example is the major differentiator.
politicians are literally on record stating they object to the content on tiktok, which makes it a free speech issue.
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I'm not on TikTok so it doesn't affect me but what reason do they have to force them to sell to an American company when their data center is managed and operated by Orcle an American company. Very strange that they can do that and now they have the ability to do this to other apps congress see fits. Not good at all.
The UI isn't nearly as important as the algorithm. And guess what, if a company violated the laws and norms of China...they'd be forced to sell too. NBC can't be majority owned by Tencent or Bytedance. Why is that different for TikTok? Enron violated law...they were forced to liquidate. So we're supposed to completely piss away this standard because people want to watch white girls do dances and share totally erroneous mental health advice?
Also, the dichotomy you speak off between the platforms is based on their Terms of Service it has nothing to do with the speech laws. IG, FB and YT are like that because they sell ads. This is part of the reason why virtually no one makes money on TikTok. Because that content pushes away ad buyers. So what is the value of TikTok to its owners? The attention economy of the west, specifically America.
You're talking all about "free speech" and rights and not being objective about anything TikTok does.
this is the thing, titkok hasn't violated any laws!!!
tiktok made 16 billion last year, but no one makes money?
content creators are getting paid on that platform. TikTok’s US revenues hit $16bn as Washington threatens ban
Parent company ByteDance on track to become world’s biggest social media group with $120bn in global sales
www.ft.com
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True. But as a massive media company that operates with impunity in the US, I can see the logic in making sure their ownership is American.
In all honesty, I don't see how THIS is more of an issue for people than voter laws, abortion and shyt that actually matters.
Shows that the TikTok brain cancer has already taken hold.
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