Biden will announce a six-pronged plan to get COVID under control today

[The Realist Perspective]

I wish they'd mandate that anyone who can work from home have to work from home.

This is very true. Businesses are just bull headed as fukk with this shyt. Same with schools. Keep the kids at home as much as possible.

 

[Isaiah Bradley]

Israel, with it's 58% vaccinated, never achieved herd immunity (especially not for the delta variant) so that doesn't prove anything.

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And degradation isn't as simple as antibody titers. I've noticed that the media never accounts for memory b and t cells. b and t cells have kept the efficacy for severe covid and deaths the same.




The fundamentals for herd immunity remain the same whether you accept it or not. The polio/chicken pox vaccines had to abide by the same mathematical rules as the coronavirus vaccines. It's not just about vaxxed breakthrough cases, but instead how many breakthrough cases transmit to others in conjunction with how transmissible their respective viruses are.

80% of vaccinated COVID carriers didn’t infect anyone in public spaces — report

And for the record, chickenpox is way more transmissible than the delta variant and the vaccine for it has a lower efficacy than Moderna, Pfizer, and J&J. If you can get herd immunity in that scenario then you can reach herd immunity with this current pandemic.

Science changes. A new variable was thrown in the mix in the form of the delta variant which had a higher R0 which transitively raised the threshold for herd immunity.

Israel inability to reach the ever changing herd immunity threshold isn't possible due to degrading vaccine

The fundamentals of herd immunity relies on efficacy of natural OR artificial immunity. So constantly referencing "herd immunirty" as a way to curb criticism of administration's draconian plans without admitting the inability to achieve such a goal with the current vaccine, is disingenuous

The only reason to compare the various vaccine was to frame on the page was turned on the viruses, unlike the covid and the unnecessary silly mandates

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

We are not reaching natural immunity

'natural immunity' =/= herd immunity​

with a vaccine that does not block transmission.

It DOES block transmission, though not at 100%.​

They rushed the vaccine,

False. The vaccines went through EVERY step every other vaccine went through.​

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Still not getting it.

Staying unvaccinated helps no one.​

 

[satam55]

If he thinks this helps his polling, good luck.

 

[Toe Jay Simpson]

Dude realizes his legacy as a politician is depending on his response to this

 

[bnew]

I’m willing to bet non of vax gang on the coli can run a mile in under 7 minutes, nor fast for 10+ days which is proven to lower your risk of cancer by 80%

what does that have to do with a virus that has killed hundreds of thousands of americans and gave millions more what appears to be life long ailments?

 

[ORDER_66]

It's not just "CACs" that oppose it. In New York City, around 30% of Blacks have the shot.

That's the not the point man there are more cacs left and right in ENTIRE states constant in the news IRATE about not taking that shyt, which is the problem!!! dont be obtuse

 

[bnew]

echo chamber

 

[Actually6Foot3]

All I'll say is....for better or worse the midterms will swing Republican. The Dems purposely fumbled this whole thing.

No one except WHITE "liberals" is okay with vaccine mandates

 

[Orbital-Fetus]

Why u not ready?

 

[BigMoneyGrip]

Dude realizes his legacy as a politician is depending on his response to this

He’s responding and not sitting on his ass like trump was

 

[Rell Lauren]

It's not about safety. It's not about safety. It's not about safety.

 

[Buckeye Fever]

Oh shyt, is it true that employers with 100+ employees are part of this mandate?

 

[CashmereThoughts]

Im vaccinated, but making people is just wrong. Biden the first Democratic President that I dont fuhk with in my lifetime. dude is awful..

You fukked with prior U.S. Presidents? Are you Black?