Biden will not include student loan forgiveness in annual budget

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People love talking about policies DECADES after the fact. In 2005, there was no “student loan crisis”. Saying someone voted against student loans being discharged in bankruptcy in 2005 doesn’t have the same ring as doing in 2021. Opinions change. Variables change. The political zeitgeist changes. Just like the Crime Bill nonsense. Everyone was with it in 1993. Black people included. Now in 2021, suddenly everyone who voted for it was a horrible person. I guarantee in 2040 or 2050 there will be some snot nose Generation V faggit on Twitter talking about how the Covid-19 stimulus was a horrible policy or how Obamacare was horrible policy.

That's because those policies and decisions made back then have helped create the situations that are present today.

We are talking about student loans and not the Crime Bill. Yes people feel bad about what happened, but it still doesn't change the effects and ramifications of what that bill resulted in.
 

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People love talking about policies DECADES after the fact. In 2005, there was no “student loan crisis”. Saying someone voted against student loans being discharged in bankruptcy in 2005 doesn’t have the same ring as doing in 2021. Opinions change. Variables change. The political zeitgeist changes. Just like the Crime Bill nonsense. Everyone was with it in 1993. Black people included. Now in 2021, suddenly everyone who voted for it was a horrible person. I guarantee in 2040 or 2050 there will be some snot nose Generation V faggit on Twitter talking about how the Covid-19 stimulus was a horrible policy or how Obamacare was horrible policy.
It’s because wealthy people think decades in advance when they move
They knew exactly what they were doing back then and what it would cause
 

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I can tell that you didn't even read what I posted as you would have noticed that he ruled against student loans in 2005. Years into his tenure in Congress, which means that he would have tenure and power over other members in Congress :mjlol:

A Senator from a state with 3 electoral votes has power over other Senators? Really. Okay breh. Besides you Monday Quarterbacking. Judging policies decades after the fact. In 2005, the conventional wisdom was you went to college. You got a good job. You paid your loans back. So why would he vote to let student loans be discharged in bankruptcy? This was three years before the 2007-08 crash. This was years before the economy fell out and people couldn’t get good jobs and couldn’t afford to buy homes. This was years before Occupy Wall Street. This was years before the Student Loan Crisis. You doing a lot of googling but you not using common sense and you’re not putting yourself in the era you’re trying to judge.
 

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It’s because wealthy people think decades in advance when they move
They knew exactly what they were doing back then and what it would cause

That’s fukking ridiculous. Nobody can see the future. And with that I’m going back to Higher Learning.
 

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I never had any student debt, but if I did and voted for Biden to forgive that shyt, it is on me.

that being said, he hasn’t even been in office for 6 months. Let him cook

:mjlol:
 

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A Senator from a state with 3 electoral votes has power over other Senators? Really. Okay breh. Besides you Monday Quarterbacking. Judging policies decades after the fact. In 2005, the conventional wisdom was you went to college. You got a good job. You paid your loans back. So why would he vote to let student loans be discharged in bankruptcy? This was three years before the 2007-08 crash. This was years before the economy fell out and people couldn’t get good jobs and couldn’t afford to buy homes. This was years before Occupy Wall Street. This was years before the Student Loan Crisis. You doing a lot of googling but you not using common sense and you’re not putting yourself in the era you’re trying to judge.


Nikka have you ever heard of the term power and influence :mjlol:

Take your ass back to Higher Learning as the bullshyt you're talking about now makes no sense whatsoever.
 

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Nikka have you ever heard of the term power and influence :mjlol:

Take your ass back to Higher Learning as the bullshyt you're talking about now makes no sense whatsoever.

Have you answered who the Senators and the Representatives are in your state first? You know since they have ultimate power and influence. You probably don’t even know them without Googling :scust:
 

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There’s no way people really thought student loans were going to be wiped out lol. This ain’t done shyt you can wipe out with the stroke of a pen. It’s going to take YEARS of fighting. These companies will fight it.
Nah I think it was reasonable to believe considering Elizabeth Warren and Chuck Schumer were vocally behind it. It actually had some muscle to go through publicly
 

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Have you answered who the Senators and the Representatives are in your state first? You know since they have power and influence. You probably don’t even know them without Googling :scust:

Roger Wicker and Cindy Hyde Smith, who I have mentioned multiple times on this site about her racist antics. It's a 122 members in the House of Representatives in Mississippi, which has been and will always been controlled by Republicans. Unless you would like me to name them all.

The longer you're in Congress, the more power, sway and influence that you have compared to other members who are less tenured. Hence the term power and influence.
 

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Bruh, you doing a whole lot of googling but not using common sense. So Imma try one more time. Who are the Senators and Representatives in your state? Do you even know the Senators and Representatives in your state? How old are they? How long have they been in politics or in office? For the people just starting out in office in your state, do you think they’re controlling anything right now politically or do you think the more senior people in Washington in both parties are controlling things? Well guess what, it was the same way back in 1970, 1980 and 1990. There were power players in DC that were running our country and making these decisions who are now long dead or long retired but back then they were running sh*t. Not no fukking Joe Biden who would’ve been a 30 to 40 year old senator from a flyover state. Stop being an ignoramus. If your logic held up, then you’re saying junior Senators today in 2021 are influencing policy when we know that’s bullsh*t as they’re following orders from the top of the party.

I broke down the student loan debt crisis history awhile on here. Why do I know about it? Cause my mother and father both went to college in the 70s and took out loans. This was after the murder of MLK and the government started to really push to get minorities in colleges and many were given huge amounts of loans and grants (huge for those times).

What happened during those times a lot of students would go to college to get a easy loan refund check (like some today) or go to college to get out of being drafted in vietnam. Which a few of my dads homies did.

Anyway in the early 70s a lot of journalist and legislator started to comment that students were abusing the banckruptcy system by writing off their student loans in bankruptcy.

So a congressional commission on bankruptcy was formed to study if students were abusing the bankruptcy policy. Then congress did there own study.

Then by 1976 an educational amendment was made stating student loans could not be written off on bankruptcy until 5 years after commercement of the repayment period.

In 1984 a act stating that even private student loans could not be filed on bankruptcy until 5 years after the repayment period.

Then in 1990 they moved the bankruptcy on student loans to 7 years after repayment started.

Then in 1998 another high education amendment was passed saying they eliminated the 7 year period. Basically stating that all student loan could not be filed under bankruptcy.

Now understand that before 1976 student loans could easily be throw away due to bankruptcy. But once the law hit the books in 1976 it was extremely difficult to remove them. Even with the 5 and 7 year rules.

My dad had homies that tried for years (post 1976) to get their shyt removed without paying and could never get them removed.

So this whole notion that pre 1990 or pre biden it so easy to remove student loans is not true. The shyt been a bytch since 1976.

Long story short this one of the reasons my dad rode me about paying off my loans. I was high school age and my dad would be like man don't fukk around and not pay off them student loans. You don't want to be like my friend Mr. Sam who hiding from them government loans and got his income tax return taken or got his pay check taken by the government.

I would be like dang dad..:lupe: is that why Mr. Sam had to move from the place he was at and you were helping him move. Dad would be like yep that is why...:francis:
 

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Obviously people like you are full of shyt and are simply trying to explain away the ineffectiveness of the Dems.
Truth is the dems are VERY effective at finessing their clueless base.

If the executive branch was powerless then why go crazy over trump, if the Congress is powerless then how did Obama pass all those lbgtq Bills and other pointless things ? How did Trump pass new trade laws his base wanted and how did he pass Criminal justice reform with his pen?

The fact is Biden is a white supremacist and worse hes an elite semi liberal white supremacist like most dem politicians.
They are ineffective because they hold no actual power. Not sure what’s difficult to grasp about that. Obama compromised and got some GOP votes. He couldn’t pass shyt without them. No ones reaching across the aisle in 2021. That’s the difference. He can’t even count on all 50 dem votes in the senate, and he needs every single one just to pass the couple bills they can on reconciliation needing only the 50. Most bills he needs 60. Not exactly sure what you think will get passed needing 60 votes in 2021, but spoiler: it’s not much
 

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Roger Wicker and Cindy Hyde Smith, who I have mentioned multiple times on this site about her racist antics. It's a 122 members in the House of Representatives in Mississippi, which has been and will always been controlled by Republicans. Unless you would like me to name them all.

The longer you're in Congress, the more power, sway and influence that you have compared to other members who are less tenured. Hence the term power and influence.

Nikka you Googled. You were responding immediately before and this took you ten minutes :scust: Doing all that talking about Biden’s years as Senator and can’t name your own without an internet search,
 

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Nikka you Googled. You were responding immediately before and this took you ten minutes :scust: Doing all that talking about Biden’s years as Senator and can’t name your own without an internet search,

I mean I do have this thing called a job and don't have time to always respond with the quickness :mjlol:
 
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