Big Daddy Kane “Pac would have been the Michael Jackson of hip hop”

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I get the sentiment but this is always a pointless statement cause we'll never know. if snoop or cube got cut down in their prime we'd be saying the same shyt and look at them now
This makes no sense because Pac’s peak was bigger than Cube’s when he was alive and as far as Snoop, he came out the gate a star and was more popular than Pac. When Pac joined Death Row though, Pac’s star shined brighter.
 

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This makes no sense because Pac’s peak was bigger than Cube’s when he was alive and as far as Snoop, he came out the gate a star and was more popular than Pac. When Pac joined Death Row though, Pac’s star shined brighter.
The nikka had to get shot, catch a case, go to jail, dissed the hottest rapper at the moment, & then die

bone e1999 album was on the chart for over a year and was outselling all eyez on me prior to pac dying
 

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I like that he pointed out that Pac was wild before he got big, this gets lost in a lot of conversations because of one or two videos where he comes off soft.
the soft actor shyt always came off as a nikka that is completely off his rock trying to sound deep. Dude was a known lunatic, not saying he was the biggest, baddest or toughest but there's enough stories about him out there to know that he clearly had something going on mentally
 

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The nikka had to get shot, catch a case, go to jail, dissed the hottest rapper at the moment, & then die

bone e1999 album was on the chart for over a year and was outselling all eyez on me prior to pac dying
How the hell is going to prison gonna HELP his popularity when he wasn’t even available to promote his album? Still had the #1 album in the country.

AEOM was already multi-platinum before Hit ‘em Up dropped. I remember 1995-96 VERY well.
 

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How the hell is going to prison gonna HELP his popularity when he wasn’t even available to promote his album? Still had the #1 album in the country.

AEOM was already multi-platinum before Hit ‘em Up dropped. I remember 1995-96 VERY well.
Me against the world sir is when pac started to sell respectfully
 

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nobody is on Mike's level but the point of the top is there

Pac is my favorite but he wasnt crushing globally till he died... his unreleased positive shyt inspired the other side of the world

someone will steal my quote, but fukk it, I love 2pac

Pac wasnt here to lead the revolution, he was here to push it. All them other nikkas just got in the way with their jealousy ... whats funny and you can rebuttle this if you wanna hate. Pac threw whoever was in the studio on his songs all day. So why couldnt nikkas just bow down and break bread with him? nikkas are cucks and tacky as fukk with the pointing fingers shyt. If I get robbed, shot and left to die... then go to jail on a set up while im supposed to be living my dream... then suddenly you are wearing my jewelry and clothes doing songs I told you to make...im gonna fukk you up forever off principle too
 

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Remember the topic is comparing Pac to MJ and none of what you just said takes away from the fact that Pac did not dominate 96 while alive. He shared it with The Fugees ( LOL @ you attempting to flip their genre as a means of trying to take points away). You can't be MJ status and share the most successful year in your career with another entity with just as much spotlight that same year as well as big album sales.
The score first week sales 188,000

All eyes on me first week sales 566,000

Makaveli first week sales 664,000

Wasn’t even close. The score was mainstream safe negro music which is why it ended up having long ass legs :mjlol: Next you’ll say Lauren hill was hotter than X and Jay in 98
 

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The score first week sales 188,000

All eyes on me first week sales 566,000

Makaveli first week sales 664,000

Wasn’t even close. The score was mainstream safe negro music which is why it ended up having long ass legs :mjlol: Next you’ll say Lauren hill was hotter than X and Jay in 98


LOL @ you all up in this thread bringing up Jay and Nas as a distraction from the actual topic being about comparing Pac to MJ because you know you can't even argue in defense of that so you gotta change it to comparing Pac to Nas and Jay. Now you dumping on Fugees for Pac. At least when I brought up Fugees it was in relation to the topic as to why Pac was not MJ levels when he was sharing 96 with them confirming he never dominated like MJ. You on the other hand are just dumping on The Fugees to big up Pac while going all off topic. No one was expecting the "Hey Mona Lisa" group to pop off like they did on their 2nd album like that. That was a suprise. Pac on the other hand had super hype due to coming out of prison and shyttng on Biggie before the album dropped. So comparing first week album sales had diddly squat to do with the fact that Pac shared 1996 with The Fugees and is just you attempting to distract from the topic yet again. The streets was fukking withy The Score so calling it "mainstream safe negro music" means diddly squat. Nothing you said in this comment has anything to do with comparing Pac to MJ.

Can you stay on topic?
 

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People be putting these current hiphop times on the 90’s. Man the 90’s were a whole different beast lol. Pac was one of if not the biggest star of the 90’s. People wouldn’t be talking about him today if that were not true. Bro was like a triple threat out here, rapper, actor, poet.. you can add more if you want. Imagine trying to put Salt N Pepa over Pac :russ: These artists all had their own thing happening… the culture was in a waaaaay better place than it is now. Keep in mind that Prime Mike Jack was in an era with Stevie, Whitney, Luther, Lionel Ritchie, hell Janet when she caught on fire, We all knew Mike was the man but other artists were doing their thing out here too.,. Same can be said for Tupac :yeshrug:
 

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People be putting these current hiphop times on the 90’s. Man the 90’s were a whole different beast lol. Pac was one of if not the biggest star of the 90’s. People wouldn’t be talking about him today if that were not true. Bro was like a triple threat out here, rapper, actor, poet.. you can add more if you want. Imagine trying to put Salt N Pepa over Pac :russ: These artists all had their own thing happening… the culture was in a waaaaay better place than it is now. Keep in mind that Prime Mike Jack was in an era with Stevie, Whitney, Luther, Lionel Ritchie, hell Janet when she caught on fire, We all knew Mike was the man but other artists were doing their thing out here too.,. Same can be said for Tupac :yeshrug:

Nope. That's a bad comparison. I was there during the Thriller era and all thru Pacs career and Pac was not the MJ in the midst of Stevie and Whitney.

Lets look at the facts:

"We Are The World" the song was a unifier of artists and the song was written by MJ and Lionel Richie and produced by Quincy Jones. The closest thing Hip Hop had to that was "Self Destruction" which gathered a bunch of popular east coast rappers and was put together by KRS One which inspired the west coast to do the song "We're All In The Same Gang" a year later (Red Alert and Marly Marl had a rivalry yet put that to the side to be seen together in that 'Self Destruction' video......a true example of KRS unifying a rivalry). MJ and Quincy were a team. And being that MJ was the top superstar artist in 'We Are The World' and it was lyrics he wrote that all of those artists were singing, he was a primary focus, so MJ and Late 80's KRS One were "unifiers." Fast Forward to 96, and Pac wasn't a unifier, he was a divider. He was beefing with Biggie, Lil Kim, Puffy, Mobb Deep, Chino XL, Jay Z and Nas. Pac also threatened to cut Lauryn Hills face and he made death threats saying that he would kill the kids of Bad Boys staff members with a .44 magnum. The East/West beef was fueled by 2pacs verbal assault towards Biggie. 2pac wasn't part of East/west unity, he was the key figure in it's division. Then 2pac turned on the man who gave him his 1st #1 hit, Dr Dre and slandered him with homosexual allegations after Dre left Death Row. All that talk of him trying to unite everyone at Death Row as a family to be on All Eyes On Me went out the window when Pac started verbally assaulting Dr Dre who was the #1 key figure of Death Row records. And we can't forget what happened to Sam Sneed. More division and disunity. And miss me with that One Nation talk. Pac didn't start talking that One Nation stuff till after he saw that his rampage was causing disunity so he was attempting to salvage the damage but One Nation never even happened, it was just talk. And in the end of it all, all that beefing got Biggie killed. When compared to the so called rivalry MJ had with Prince, Prince said out his own mouth he was supposed to be in the 'Bad' video because MJ wanted him in it but Prince declined. That's MJ attempting unity. MJ never set things in motion to have Prince killed like Pac did with Biggie. So in conclusion, 2Pac was not a unifier like MJ was. Pac was a divider and he took on that role at the height of his career, so the comparison of Pac to MJ is null and void based on those premises alone.
 
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