Big Daddy Kane was basically washed at like 25, how did that happen?

[Awesome Wells]

Jay low balled kane and jaz.


Art Barr

Nah, bro, lol.

Jay offered Jaz almost $400K to do one album. Dude was 40 and nobody wanted to bother with his music, at that point. Hov tried to bring him in and pay him nicely, but Jaz's pride was too crazy for him to sign to someone he used to mentor. He also didn't like Dame and Biggs. So he started trying to just put out his own music. He dropped the ball with that opportunity.

 

[DANJ!]

Exactly the difference, I think Father MC got outshined by the R&B acts featured on his songs.

He was 100% a dude who was very fortunate to have the Uptown machine behind him. Nobody has a favorite Father MC song that didn't have Jodeci or MJB on the hook. He was the guest on his own singles.

 

[Child_Of_God]

If we being honest almost every mainstream rapper from the mid to late 80’s (with the exception of LL and Rakim) were washed by the time 93 hit.

 

[Awesome Wells]

If we being honest almost every mainstream rapper from the mid to late 80’s (with the exception of LL and Rakim) were washed by the time 93 hit.

Not really.

KRS, Run-DMC, Heavy D, PE, Beasties, Ice-T, Erick Sermon, etc., sh*t, even Sir Mix-a-Lot were all fresh off successful albums and hits. They knew who they wanted to be. Kane lost because he didn't know who he was anymore.

 

[patscorpio]

He was 100% a dude who was very fortunate to have the Uptown machine behind him. Nobody has a favorite Father MC song that didn't have Jodeci or MJB on the hook. He was the guest on his own singles.

And he had a ghostwriter to boot

 

[patscorpio]

If we being honest almost every mainstream rapper from the mid to late 80’s (with the exception of LL and Rakim) were washed by the time 93 hit.

Heavy D was going strong still

 

[The War Report]

The other part of the question that I missed is age.

How old were cats back then

1988

Dre3000 - 13
Big Boi - 13 (94 for Outkast)

Nas - 15

Bun B - 15
Pimp C - 14 (91, imo for UGK)

BIG - 16
Ice Cube - 18

Rakim - 20
Kane - 20
KRS - 23
LL - 20
Kool G Rap - 20
Jay Z - 19 (never mind Hawaiian Sophie - Jay Z in his current incarnation wouldn't pop until 95/96 with Dead Presidents I (and then DP 2)

Method Man - 17
GZA - 22
RZA - 19

Chuck D - 28
Flavor Flav - 29
Ice T - 30

For a hot minute it seemed like rap was a young man's game

Ice T was 30 in 88?

That's why he was able to do gangsta shyt and make it seem so believable. Son lived a whole life before Hip Hop was a thing.

 

[FunkDoc1112]

Ice T was 30 in 88?

That's why he was able to do gangsta shyt and make it seem so believable. Son lived a whole life before Hip Hop was a thing.

nikka was in the army and everything

 

[Art Barr]

Nah, bro, lol.

Jay offered Jaz almost $400K to do one album. Dude was 40 and nobody wanted to bother with his music, at that point. Hov tried to bring him in and pay him nicely, but Jaz's pride was too crazy for him to sign to someone he used to mentor. He also didn't like Dame and Biggs. So he started trying to just put out his own music. He dropped the ball with that opportunity.

Now we need to go to print.

As I feel this interview comment happened in revision. After they squashed but were not public for kings county. Originally before any of that.
I agree to disagree.

Now I have to find these articles.
To know discreetly

Yet they are from mom and pop distribution pr. That would distrubute media magazines.
where the media was not given precedent.
as other higher profile pr based publication.

I can't even find bon n nip first album accolades in print scans. I can find XXL but not anything

As real talk.

For jayz to be the rapper to best employ public relations.

i find it odd. All the pr press in print about them in the early rocafella days artocles. Have no achive.




Art Barr

 

[FreshAIG]

Ice T was 30 in 88?

That's why he was able to do gangsta shyt and make it seem so believable. Son lived a whole life before Hip Hop was a thing.

It's funny because even old school artists from the mid to early 80s like LL and Run are good 7-10 years younger than Ice T lol

 

[Boonapalist]

It's funny because even old school artists from the mid to early 80s like LL and Run are good 7-10 years younger than Ice T lol

That’s why his flow sounded so dated. No disrespect to Ice he’s a legend. But he was rapping like he was reading a book report

 

[FunkDoc1112]

That’s why his flow sounded so dated. No disrespect to Ice he’s a legend. But he was rapping like he was reading a book report

And it always used to throw me off that he had such a New York accent even though he was an LA rapper...come to find out he's really from New Jersey and moved to LA when he was in high school lol

 

[Street Knowledge]

You can Google and do a discovery for yourself.
I gave you the time periods of pr. Get your Google on.

Why you waiting on mek to find the answer I already know. To overly authenticate an answer for you. Then I supplied the gateway to give you insight to find what you seek. Why are you so special?
Why so entitled?



Art Barr

So there’s no third party

 

[Art Barr]

It's funny because even old school artists from the mid to early 80s like LL and Run are good 7-10 years younger than Ice T lol

Thai.

The ice t rubrick of study to success is invaluable.
All interviews that ice t discuss about his past. All showcase him being very focused in any endeavor to make it. With a serious framework of keep it real. Before that was a relevent term.
How ice talks about how he navigated the high end world.

of drugs, and jewel theft.
amidst collabs with ganga.
Ranks as some of rhe most cerebral tellings in rap history.
If not, rhe must cerebral about survival as a bboy navkgt8ng gangs in a grassroots gang environment.



Art Barr

 

[Art Barr]

So there’s no third party

This post lacks clarity.

Plus showcases the deflection of how when it comes time to make a content based post.
It really the user's like you. Who have issues with post clarity.

Hence you thinking.
I am going to do rhe discovery zone work for you.
While trying to make disparaging remarks. When the general poster.
Not even able to be clear in print at all.

Yet deflect those issues with posting with clarity.


Art Barr