"BIG didn't let me meet Michael Jackson because BIG didn't trust Michael around kids" Lil Cease.

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"Don't they know my nikka Gutter fukkin kidnip kids?"

y'all know what comes next...

but Gutter was his friend tho...:sas2:
 

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Based on this story from one of the engineers of the HIStory album, it seems like Biggie wasn't allowed to bring his entourage and Biggie probably told Cease that shyt about him not trusting MJ with kids just to fukk with him/piss him off.

Anyways its a great story from a thread over at Gearslutz where a bunch of people who worked with Mike tell a bunch of great stories about his working process, sessions, talents and behind the scenes shyt. Y'all might wanna read thru that shyt, there's some great stories shared.
Post here if you worked on Michael Jackson's DANGEROUS album - Gearslutz.com

Here's the story about BIG's session:

By the way, to elaborate a bit on the Notorious B.I.G. session, it was kinda like this. Michael used to call people to ask them to participate on albums. It was interesting knowing that nearly anyone on the planet would come to the phone if it were Michael calling. Anyway, I heard rumors that B.I.G. was going to come, and I was excited about that! I knew that I would be the one to record that, as I had recorded nearly all of that tune, "This Time Around".

So, Dallas and I were expecting him any minute, and pretty much on time, Notorious strolls in. He was quite an imposing figure when he walked in, as he was quite popular at the time. I had no idea what to expect from him in terms of attitude, but he seemed nice when he walked in. No problem. But almost immediately, he blurted out, "Yo, Dallas, can I meet Mike?" To which, Dallas replied that he thought so. Biggie went on to talk about how much this opportunity meant to him, as Michael was his hero. Anyway, Dallas tells him that we're going to lay down the rap first, so Biggie heads in the booth, we get some headphone levels and get ready to start recording.

So, we hit the big red button (on a Sony 3348 machine), and away we go. During his first take, Dallas and I looked at each other, because it was spot on. wow. I was impressed, and so was Dallas. We listened back, and Dallas was like, "Wow, I think we got it". As I recall, we took another take for good measure, but I'm fairly certain that we ended up using the first take. So, Notorious comes in, and asks if he can meet Michael now. We sent word to the back room where Michael was working that Biggie was finished and wanted to meet him.

Simply for security, Michael's security would enter and make sure that no one was in the room that shouldn't be, and once that was confirmed (it was just me, Biggie and Dallas), Michael came in. Biggie nearly broke out in tears...I could tell how much this meant to him. Well, Michael could have this effect on anyone, even the most hardcore rappers! Biggie was tripping up on his words, bowing down and telling Michael how much his music had meant to him in his life. Michael was, as always, very humble and kept smiling while Biggie just went on and on how much he loved Michael. I watched Biggie just become this big butterball of a man, and it was really very sweet to witness. After all, we are all just people.

Michael finally asked to hear what we had done, and we popped it up on the big speakers and let her go. Michael LOVED it and was excited to tell Biggie that! "Oh, let's hear it again", I recall Michael saying, and we listened again. Michael just loved it...and thanked Biggie for coming all the way from Philadelphia. Biggie asked rather sheepishly whether he could get a photo, and Michael agreed. A shot was taken, we listened again, and Michael thanked Biggie. Michael said goodbye and stepped out, leaving Biggie standing there looking completely stunned.

It will always remain a great, great memory.
 

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Based on this story from one of the engineers of the HIStory album, it seems like Biggie wasn't allowed to bring his entourage and Biggie probably told Cease that shyt about him not trusting MJ with kids just to fukk with him/piss him off.

Anyways its a great story from a thread over at Gearslutz where a bunch of people who worked with Mike tell a bunch of great stories about his working process, sessions, talents and behind the scenes shyt. Y'all might wanna read thru that shyt, there's some great stories shared.
Post here if you worked on Michael Jackson's DANGEROUS album - Gearslutz.com

Here's the story about BIG's session:

By the way, to elaborate a bit on the Notorious B.I.G. session, it was kinda like this. Michael used to call people to ask them to participate on albums. It was interesting knowing that nearly anyone on the planet would come to the phone if it were Michael calling. Anyway, I heard rumors that B.I.G. was going to come, and I was excited about that! I knew that I would be the one to record that, as I had recorded nearly all of that tune, "This Time Around".

So, Dallas and I were expecting him any minute, and pretty much on time, Notorious strolls in. He was quite an imposing figure when he walked in, as he was quite popular at the time. I had no idea what to expect from him in terms of attitude, but he seemed nice when he walked in. No problem. But almost immediately, he blurted out, "Yo, Dallas, can I meet Mike?" To which, Dallas replied that he thought so. Biggie went on to talk about how much this opportunity meant to him, as Michael was his hero. Anyway, Dallas tells him that we're going to lay down the rap first, so Biggie heads in the booth, we get some headphone levels and get ready to start recording.

So, we hit the big red button (on a Sony 3348 machine), and away we go. During his first take, Dallas and I looked at each other, because it was spot on. wow. I was impressed, and so was Dallas. We listened back, and Dallas was like, "Wow, I think we got it". As I recall, we took another take for good measure, but I'm fairly certain that we ended up using the first take. So, Notorious comes in, and asks if he can meet Michael now. We sent word to the back room where Michael was working that Biggie was finished and wanted to meet him.

Simply for security, Michael's security would enter and make sure that no one was in the room that shouldn't be, and once that was confirmed (it was just me, Biggie and Dallas), Michael came in. Biggie nearly broke out in tears...I could tell how much this meant to him. Well, Michael could have this effect on anyone, even the most hardcore rappers! Biggie was tripping up on his words, bowing down and telling Michael how much his music had meant to him in his life. Michael was, as always, very humble and kept smiling while Biggie just went on and on how much he loved Michael. I watched Biggie just become this big butterball of a man, and it was really very sweet to witness. After all, we are all just people.

Michael finally asked to hear what we had done, and we popped it up on the big speakers and let her go. Michael LOVED it and was excited to tell Biggie that! "Oh, let's hear it again", I recall Michael saying, and we listened again. Michael just loved it...and thanked Biggie for coming all the way from Philadelphia. Biggie asked rather sheepishly whether he could get a photo, and Michael agreed. A shot was taken, we listened again, and Michael thanked Biggie. Michael said goodbye and stepped out, leaving Biggie standing there looking completely stunned.

It will always remain a great, great memory.

That's dope as shyt. Mike had BIG starstruck. :mj:
 

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Are Cease and Big really cousins? I've seen people say that a lot but I never hear Cease refer to Biggie as his cousin.
 

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He was a 16 year old brooklyn street kid...hes not gonna get fukkin molested by michael jackson :heh: this is a straight wolf ticket

Plus couldn't Biggie have just protected Lil Cease from Michaeal himself:dahell:

Between Gutta and this MJ story,did Biggie live by the same code as Camron,that he couldn't step in as kids was getting molested?even if it was happening in front of em:dahell:....Either Cease gotta be lying now,or he was to stupid to realize Biggie was lying to him back then.
 

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LOL, Old story. Honestly Big probably just told Cease that to keep him in the car. This is MJ we are talking about. There wasn't going to be no weed smoking or large entorages in the studio, lol. Plus as Cease said he was already super high. MJ and Biggie was a lethal combo man. They dropped two Classics, MJ was cussing on records too, lol. What's cool is MJ let Biggie do his thang and didn't try to change his style. Big even said, "I know my N!gga Mike like Dat", lol.








Bumped these on the way to work this morning. :whew:
 

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Im sorry
MJ the greatest
But that thread title caught me all the way off guard this morning
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So Big thought that mike would star sucking Cease dikk in the studio or something?:what: I don't buy it:stopitslime: like someone said nikka was probably high as fukk and big didn't want him to embarrass him.
 

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yoooooo man, if true or not, this sh*t got me :deadmanny::deadmanny::damn::deadrose:

y'all killed me, brought me back to life and :dead: again!

you know MJ ain't touch the kids :ufdup:
 
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