Big L vs Big Pun

Better MC

  • Big L

    Votes: 5 25.0%
  • Big Pun

    Votes: 14 70.0%
  • None of the above

    Votes: 1 5.0%

  • Total voters
    20
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Yehuda

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I’m not familiar with Mac Dre to that level, but did he tour Japan and certain countries in Europe like L did?

I know some Japanese and former Yugoslavians who know and liked his music. Not even speaking on London or Paris people I know that like him, including young white kids I worked with who knew him from YT and that Jay Z freeatyle

L was bigger internationally than Pun as well, in real time and now. Obviously he got that murder boost later.

All that shyt aside I still prefer Pun's music.
 

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L was bigger internationally than Pun as well, in real time and now. Obviously he got that murder boost later.

All that shyt aside I still prefer Pun's music.

yall doing to much

if you wanna revere L, do that. aint no need to make up shyt

Pun got songs that play at parades yearly all over and (technically) beyond the country

L got elderly ppl telling tales about rap battles from 30 plus years ago... wtf is yall talkin about
 

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I've never challenged that...all that can be true and then some... hence my folklore statement

local legend ...he had time and a platform abd wasted it with a dud. In that sense he can be compared to Cassidy cause they both dropped disappointments after underground hype

Nothing folklore about how revered dude was during his career, way before he passed.

Only people who got up on him after the fact, were cacs, as usual. Actual Hip Hop heads were all f*cking with L. He was far from just a local legend. Watch videos of dude touring in spots like Japan and Germany, while indie. Whole crowds knew the words to his songs and were all throwing L's in the air.

Cassidy dropped a decade after L did, and had more of a budget and benefited from a time when there wasn't legends dropping every week, and still never became anything. L was an underground legend before his album even dropped, and was loved and respected by all of the legends themselves and worked with them too. He's from one of the game's most legendary crews and still gets brought up when people speak on the best ever. Nobody talks about Cassidy. I forget dude ever existed.

You should do more homework on MC's, and look into how impactful they were. Speak to the people who were there. Because it's clear you weren't. Do that sh*t, even if you weren't up on them before they died.
 

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Nothing folklore about how revered dude was during his career, way before he passed.

Only people who got up on him after the fact, were cacs, as usual. Actual Hip Hop heads were all f*cking with L. He was far from just a local legend. Watch videos of dude touring in spots like Japan and Germany, while indie. Whole crowds knew the words to his songs and were all throwing L's in the air.

Cassidy dropped a decade after L did, and had more of a budget and benefited from a time when there wasn't legends dropping every week, and still never became anything. L was an underground legend before his album even dropped, and was loved and respected by all of the legends themselves and worked with them too. He's from one of the game's most legendary crews and still gets brought up when people speak on the best ever. Nobody talks about Cassidy. I forget dude ever existed.

You should do more homework on MC's, and look into how impactful they were. Speak to the people who were there. Because it's clear you weren't. Do that sh*t, even if you weren't up on them before they died.

someone else crowbared Cassidy into this exchange, i said we coulda left it at Show N Ag

n to be clear, when i say folklore im not tryna suggest people are making stuff up after the fact. im saying oral history is keeping him alive . (and thats not a slight.... at least it doesn't have to be) The lore kept his name up moreso than his music that fell flat relative to his own crew who were underground they damn self...

all of what you said can be true and align with what im saying
 

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someone else crowbared Cassidy into this exchange, i said we coulda left it at Show N Ag

n to be clear, when i say folklore im not tryna suggest people are making stuff up after the fact. im saying oral history is keeping him alive . (and thats not a slight.... at least it doesn't have to be) The lore kept his name up moreso than his music that fell flat relative to his own crew who were underground they damn self...

all of what you said can be true and align with what im saying

He rapped on a Milkbone instrumental in '95, when he was on Stretch and Bobbito's show. I recorded that freestyle live. He was up there with Jay-Z. That instrumental had been out for a minute. Milkbone had a video and all that for the song. Nobody cared. L goes up there and raps on the beat, and turned the beat into a classic. Milkbone said because L rapped on his beat, it helped his career and when he did the song people thought it was actually a Big L beat. That's how impactful that dude was while he was still here.

His talent and presence were next level back then. If you were around to see it, then you know. It's like when people say Dilla didn't really pop until he died. Nah, these people were f*cking beasts for us when they were still here. The only people who got up on them later, were kids and cacs. But for the rest of us, we knew in real time that these people were special and on some next sh*t. But if you weren't around back then, then you wouldn't know.

This is the 90's we're talking about. Nobody talked about hit records back then or sales. We used to debate who was the dopest or the nicest. We didn't care about the sh*t people love to focus on today. "Oh, but his album didn't sell". You would've looked crazy saying that back then. We didn't care. It was all about who had the most talent. Nobody was outrapping L back then. Lord Finesse was THAT GUY, and he was trying to sign L just off seeing him rap in the street. This is where we come from and how we rated our MC's back then. L was something else. And not just locally. Nas has told tour stories about him many times.
 

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i said it fell flat , not that it didnt sell

and im not that invested in big l so ill excuse myself

peace!
 

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