Deadman187
All Star
LL's version was just a remake of LeShaun's version of the song which came out in the 80's
"Big never forgave me for selling Doin' It to LL"
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get these nets
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Just a rough timeline
Ready to Die came out in 1st quarter of 1994
Mr Smith came out in last quarter of 1995
Life After Death came out in 1st quarter of 1997
We have a rough idea of when BIG had this convo with the producer and a rough idea of when LAD studio sessions were taking place.
However you feel about what the producer did, it would have been about 2 years to get paid.
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Chris Lighty earned his stripes by making Mr Smith a hit album. It was technically his LL's comeback. His previous album was a dud and styles had changed so much that he could have gotten lost in the sauce.
If you notice, none of the singles from that album are solo songs. So, adding Lesean and basically making this a remix of her record was brilliant, but consistent with what they were doing on this album.
BIG would have absolutely done something special with this beat. He was in a creative zone from 94 on where almost everything he rapped on was FIRE. Picture what he would have done on a beat that he crafted in his head.
Ready to Die came out in 1st quarter of 1994
Mr Smith came out in last quarter of 1995
Life After Death came out in 1st quarter of 1997
We have a rough idea of when BIG had this convo with the producer and a rough idea of when LAD studio sessions were taking place.
However you feel about what the producer did, it would have been about 2 years to get paid.
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Chris Lighty earned his stripes by making Mr Smith a hit album. It was technically his LL's comeback. His previous album was a dud and styles had changed so much that he could have gotten lost in the sauce.
If you notice, none of the singles from that album are solo songs. So, adding Lesean and basically making this a remix of her record was brilliant, but consistent with what they were doing on this album.
BIG would have absolutely done something special with this beat. He was in a creative zone from 94 on where almost everything he rapped on was FIRE. Picture what he would have done on a beat that he crafted in his head.
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Rasille
(Rah.Zil.E)
So Big was in the audience watching this performance like 
“That should’ve been my beat”
“That should’ve been my beat”
So Big was in the audience watching this performance like
There have been too many great beats that were too good to belong to just one rapper..
I'm sorry but I prefer the Jamaican Riddim system, where a beat is handed to a dozen dudes..fukk it.
CashmereThoughts
Veteran
im talking about put a $2-5k on it and invoice the label when the budget is open. I also don't think because your in a recording contact that your not able to buy a beat outright.
The last thing I would have done is expect someone to put in the work and just sit on it. Rent be due.
Dilltastic VolWon(derful)
Superstar
LL was in the game for over a decade longer. Of course he have more hits.
One More Chance >> any ladies song LL had in the 90s up until Doin It
So Big was in the audience watching this performance like
Damn, I know BIG was tight. He was probably like
Artists can buy songs but usually don't as the label may not reimburse them and In some contracts the artist could pay for the song, but the label would still control it. You're right assuming someone will wait for you out of good will is risky, especially when they have a commodity that can be sold quickly.
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Knicksman20
Superstar
This might be a reach but walk with me on this nikkas lol. I'm hearing some of you breaking down the timeline which is where I'm heading with this. If you guys remember the Netflix special on Big's LAD album, Klepto mentioned being in the studio when Big laid the vocals down for Who Shot Ya (while LL was there too) & he took that jab at Uncle L with: "Old school new school need to learn though......" Does anyone think he did that because of L snatching that beat?
I know it's a stretch but you never know
I know it's a stretch but you never know
Eastside Get The Money
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Biggies flow on that beat 
Stories been told before but yeah Chris would have had one of them ones on Doing It. Tailored made r&bish bad boy beat
Stories been told before but yeah Chris would have had one of them ones on Doing It. Tailored made r&bish bad boy beat
Eastside Get The Money
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Death Row was the king of stealing beats and dissing you on it"yeah we took yall beat...yall wasnt rockin it right"
"you are not lil kim you fat bytch!!!"
"teddy riley? who??"
7th Letter Specialist
Look in the mirror and shoot the 1st thing you see
B.I.G. Woulda slid so viciously on that shiit
Its funny how they dont even change the words. Just pass it to the next. Flo Rida aint give a fukk bout no apple bottom jeans
. Same thing with Rainy Days. Ja gave it to Mary but it was written for TLC. Mary living crazy and sexy and cool? 
I can understand BIG being tight but that ire needed to be aimed at Puff. This is this man's livelihood. Pay him. Its not his job to tell you he needs the money. It doesnt matter if he does or doesnt. You pay people for their services.
