"Big" WWE star done with the company !!

[GoddamnyamanProf]

I agree with some of Skip's points but lol at "the dispute is not about the money" then proceed to explain how its all about money for the next three paragraphs.

 

[23Barrettcity]

which other wrestlers or people in the business have called him dangerous?

not saying what you're saying isn't true. just don't recall any other wrestlers saying that other than Punk.

No I mean fans were saying that as we were in the threads .

Anybody hating on this is straight up faggit

Lol so this is ok ? But punk stand up for himself and he's a monster

 

[Notorious 1 E.Y.E.]

 

[jackswstd]

It's funny, Punk pretty much said the same shyt and was called a whiner, quitter and cry baby but Ryback does it and it's a 180

 

[MeltzerDirtySprite]

never was a big Ryback fan, but gotta defend him a bit here.

just because CM Punk said what he said about Ryback doesn't make it true. it's funny how no one ever once talked about Ryback being a dangerous wrestler to work with before that podcast. steroids? no doubt that part is believable just like it is with over half the roster including John Cena and HHH. big deal. however to label the dude as dangerous is a bit off considering everyone else that has spoken of him has had nothing but positive things to say. could a mistake happen? of course. just like when A.J. Styles knocked Miz's teeth out a couple of months ago. does that mean that A.J. is now considered dangerous as well? accidents happen and if he was THAT dangerous WWE would have fired him a long time ago.

CM Punk may have spoke some truth in that podcast, but there is a reason why he is about to lose a million dollar lawsuit for the shyt he said about the WWE's doctor. most of what he said was greatly exaggerated, shock value nonsense.

nikka AJ Styles is dangerous, How many necks does he need to break?

 

[LurkNowitzki]

Sounds like he's been frustrated for a while and reached his limit. He should ask for his release and take some time off to figure out what he wants to do next

 

[Kidd Dibiase]

It's funny, Punk pretty much said the same shyt and was called a whiner, quitter and cry baby but Ryback does it and it's a 180

pick and choose whats acceptable based on dislike of a wrestler...the usual

 

[Spyro]

This idea of paying everyone equally is absurd.

There's a reason why people like Cena and Ambrose will get paid more than Heath Slater and Fandango.

But his point was he works the same amount of matches/shows as the top guys, spends same amount of time away from family/friends/home; and gets paid a whole lot less... why? Because he's doing what he's told. He's just doing what WWE tell him to, if they say "Go out there and lose", he'll do it. If they say "go out there and win title at Mania my next top face", he'll do it.

And tbh, why does Ambrose get paid more than them? He ain't even that good, no way does he deserve to be top 10 paid wrestlers on roster

Because they are creatively booked to be in a better position, and hence get paid more. That's ryback's point.

If Sandow had a year of Cena's booking, he'd be one of the most popular guys of the last 10 years or so.

Exactly, this isn't like other sports where you get paid more for being better; you get paid for what the company tells you to do. You can't control booking

 

[Heelish]

No I mean fans were saying that as we were in the threads .

Lol so this is ok ? But punk stand up for himself and he's a monster

It's funny, Punk pretty much said the same shyt and was called a whiner, quitter and cry baby but Ryback does it and it's a 180

Shhhh... but TSC says it's not the same. Just like how you're able to make fun of Orton for getting injured, but DB is off-limits.


"Ryback is so brave!"

 

[mrken12]

But his point was he works the same amount of matches/shows as the top guys, spends same amount of time away from family/friends/home; and gets paid a whole lot less... why? Because he's doing what he's told. He's just doing what WWE tell him to, if they say "Go out there and lose", he'll do it. If they say "go out there and win title at Mania my next top face", he'll do it.

And tbh, why does Ambrose get paid more than them? He ain't even that good, no way does he deserve to be top 10 paid wrestlers on roster

Ambrose is a top 5 maybe top 3 merchandise seller in the company.

 

[Golayitdown]

It's funny, Punk pretty much said the same shyt and was called a whiner, quitter and cry baby but Ryback does it and it's a 180

Not only that, but Punk was actually a legit main eventer who was supposedly getting shafted in pay when he had actually proven he could outsell even Cena.

I agree with some of Ryback's points, but I think it's fairly obvious that wrestlers are more akin to actors than athletes when it comes to getting paid. Actors can grind for years and never get chosen to be the top draw because other people make those decisions. Once an athlete is deemed good enough to be professional, eventually he can prove himself because others can't affect your physical talents if you are in fact the best.

 

[23Barrettcity]

But his point was he works the same amount of matches/shows as the top guys, spends same amount of time away from family/friends/home; and gets paid a whole lot less... why? Because he's doing what he's told. He's just doing what WWE tell him to, if they say "Go out there and lose", he'll do it. If they say "go out there and win title at Mania my next top face", he'll do it.

And tbh, why does Ambrose get paid more than them? He ain't even that good, no way does he deserve to be top 10 paid wrestlers on roster



Exactly, this isn't like other sports where you get paid more for being better; you get paid for what the company tells you to do. You can't control booking

Ambrose is way more over than ryback and he loses big matches just like ryback did and he sells merch.
Ryback

 

[TNC]

I dont like that phrasing, usually said when caping for WWE to justify a guy's burial. Ive never been much of a Ryback fan, he's always been pretty blah in the ring but he was over and was entertaining during the Nutrition Bully phase. But if he never made it big its because he was never really special. The way thats phrased makes it sound like he was given a legit shot at being big time and he failed or something, while others succeeded due to their work or results or merit, when we all know that has little to do with it.

He was generally successful in his roles and always did what they asked him to do. And Im sure he was fed some bullshyt along the way like everyone else "Hey Skip, you just gotta do the job a few times here but we've got some big things coming your way soon, buddy"

Bruh, I don't know how else to put it without showing bias. My phrasing is as accurate as you can get without putting the blame on someone specifically.


Yes, I think we all can agree Ryback was over, but the problem was the WWE roster has been STACKED for a while now and while he was over, he wasn't more over than the people ahead of him. He wasn't more over than Daniel Bryan, he wasn't more over than CM Punk, he wasn't more over than Bray Wyatt, love or hate Roman, but he wasn't more over than ANY Shield member and they made him their personal whipping boy. Despite all of this, Ryback had more than enough opportunities to shine in the main event, he had 2 main event fued with Punk and one with Cena and remained near the top of the card for 2 years, but he never really improved in the ring. I'm not saying that Ryback COULDN'T cut it at the top, but you can't say he didn't have opportunities. Stardust, Barrett, Rusev, Swagger and countless guys would have loved to be in the spot Ryback was in.

If you don't put his failure on him, who's fault is it? Its hard to argue the WWE didn't give him a chance, he just wanted more than he was able to earn himself.

 

[Silkk]

Charisma and having the "it" factor play a major role in how popular people can get. It's the reason why Dean Ambrose can be one of the top sellers in merchandise even though for a long time he was a jobber to the stars who just made funny faces.

Del Rio is the perfect example of someone who got favorable booking and came out to crickets on a regular basis. Good booking alone won't make someone connect with fans.

You can have all the charisma in the world, if they don't want you in a certain spot it's not happening, Christian being the perfect example.

Reigns & Orton are perfect examples of guys with very little charisma who don't connect with the fans, yet because they're the office's pick, they get the big pushes, numerous shirts, & main events all equalling more money.

Company politics 101

 

[Silkk]

Lol so this is ok ? But punk stand up for himself and he's a monster

I'm one of the main Punk supporters dikkhead