"Big" WWE star done with the company !!

[Champagne Kudo]

Ryback can fukk off tbh. I'd feel some kinda way if it was a better wrestler. Ryback been in wwe for like 10 years now and he still garbage, yeah he got over at first with the ryback shyt but those days are long gone and only the chant is over these days.

Oh well

And I guess Cameron cosign'd ryback. bytch you did a pin wrong, you can't complain about shyt.

If I was him I wouldn't even be going through all this shyt. He's been in wwe long enough and gotten enough exposure he can leave and make bank elsewhere with a much lighter schedule.

 

[Silkk]

Bruh, I don't know how else to put it without showing bias. My phrasing is as accurate as you can get without putting the blame on someone specifically.


Yes, I think we all can agree Ryback was over, but the problem was the WWE roster has been STACKED for a while now and while he was over, he wasn't more over than the people ahead of him. He wasn't more over than Daniel Bryan, he wasn't more over than CM Punk, he wasn't more over than Bray Wyatt, love or hate Roman, but he wasn't more over than ANY Shield member and they made him their personal whipping boy. Despite all of this, Ryback had more than enough opportunities to shine in the main event, he had 2 main event fued with Punk and one with Cena and remained near the top of the card for 2 years, but he never really improved in the ring. I'm not saying that Ryback COULDN'T cut it at the top, but you can't say he didn't have opportunities. Stardust, Barrett, Rusev, Swagger and countless guys would have loved to be in the spot Ryback was in.

If you don't put his failure on him, who's fault is it? Its hard to argue the WWE didn't give him a chance, he just wanted more than he was able to earn himself.

Heading into Hell In A Cell vs Punk, Ryback was more over than everyone you named and some weren't even there yet.

 

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Heading into Hell In A Cell vs Punk, Ryback was more over than everyone you named and some weren't even there yet.

And how long did that last?

He had his shot there and it was all downhill from there. Yeah you can make the argument that if they put the belt on him, he could have stayed big but honestly, who couldn't you make the same argument about? Ryback was a product of right place and right time. He has talent but much less than the crop of wrestlers the WWE was putting out then

 

[Silkk]

And how long did that last?

He had his shot there and it was all downhill from there. Yeah you can make the argument that if they put the belt on him, he could have stayed big but honestly, who couldn't you make the same argument about? Ryback was a product of right place and right time. He has talent but much less than the crop of wrestlers the WWE was putting out then

It lasted until they turned him heel and Cena ate him

 

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It lasted until they turned him heel and Cena ate him

So its Cena's fault now that he didn't stay on top?

I looked at the Cena fued as his "trial run" of being a top guy and he more or less failed that. Absolutely nothing memorable came from that, no classic matches, promos or spots from it. And soon after, he became The SHIELD's whipping boy. Yes, booking was not ideal for him but WWE has a way of protecting people they value, don't you think at that point they showed they didn't value him much at all?

 

[Silkk]

So its Cena's fault now that he didn't stay on top?

I looked at the Cena fued as his "trial run" of being a top guy and he more or less failed that. Absolutely nothing memorable came from that, no classic matches, promos or spots from it. And soon after, he became The SHIELD's whipping boy. Yes, booking was not ideal for him but WWE has a way of protecting people they value, don't you think at that point they showed they didn't value him much at all?

He lost to Henry at WM, turned Heel, an then lost to Cena 2-3 times. How is that supposed to get anyone over?

& They didn't value him ever, which is the problem.

 

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He lost to Henry at WM, turned Heel, an then lost to Cena 2-3 times. How is that supposed to get anyone over?

& They didn't value him ever, which is the problem.

Ryback brought up his PPV record, which shows that he cared about how much he lost. And yes losing can and will hurt a person's popularity overall, but there are plenty of guys that keep their fan support despite not winning much at all.

And I think we kind of agree the WWE didn't see much value in him. He was a big guy which they love but it had to be his bad in ring ability which they hated. I think they realized there wasn't much potential with him so keep him as a short term solution for things and so no one else can snatch him up, but he wasn't ever going to be the top guy, he didn't have that ability.

 

[fukkyalifestyle]

scott hall never cared about winning or losing cause as he put it hes so good hes bulletproof.

 

[Silkk]

Ryback brought up his PPV record, which shows that he cared about how much he lost. And yes losing can and will hurt a person's popularity overall, but there are plenty of guys that keep their fan support despite not winning much at all.

And I think we kind of agree the WWE didn't see much value in him. He was a big guy which they love but it had to be his bad in ring ability which they hated. I think they realized there wasn't much potential with him so keep him as a short term solution for things and so no one else can snatch him up, but he wasn't ever going to be the top guy, he didn't have that ability.

Except that he absolutely did, Cesaro is a big guy with GREAT in ring ability.

Khali, & Lashley's in ring ability was laughable. Reigns is meh in the ring. If they don't want you up there, it's not happening.

 

[23Barrettcity]

Except that he absolutely did, Cesaro is a big guy with GREAT in ring ability.

Khali, & Lashley's in ring ability was laughable. Reigns is meh in the ring. If they don't want you up there, it's not happening.

Ryback isn't as good as reigns though . His ppv matches were all bad . Also his look makes you think of steroid use ( right or wrong ) . Dean Ambrose also also loses and according to some sucks in the ring yet stays over and sells merch , the fans get behind who they want see new day, dbry , punk . Also your acting like ryback stayed as over as he did during the punk feud until cena when that wasn't true. Ryback like reigns would of been a project but wwe for whatever reason didn't see him as worth the investment.

 

[Silkk]

Ryback isn't as good as reigns though .

Let me stop you right there Stan,

 

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Let me stop you right there Stan,

I know that you're not about to argue that Ryback is better than Roman Reigns.

 

[mrken12]

scott hall never cared about winning or losing cause as he put it hes so good hes bulletproof.

Hall was bulletproof because of the Kliq. Let's not ignore that. I'm not saying that he isn't good but looking at all of his personal issues anyone else would have been thrown in the bushes a long time ago.

 

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Except that he absolutely did, Cesaro is a big guy with GREAT in ring ability.

Khali, & Lashley's in ring ability was laughable. Reigns is meh in the ring. If they don't want you up there, it's not happening.

Ryback ain't Cesaro. There is a reason they have kept Cesaro strong and keep repackaging him after various attempts, they see the potential in him. Meahwhile Ryback today is no better than the Ryback that feuded with CM Punk. You don't think that's noticeable? You don't think the fact he can't keep a consistent feud going because nobody wants to work with him for the long term doesn't effect management's views on him?

They gave him an undefeated push. They gave him fued with the TOP guys in the company that could have gone to anyone. They gave him MULTIPLE titles that could have gone to other perfomers. I think the Ryback's peak has already been hit and I don't doubt the WWE feels the same too. I don't see this as a big loss, but if goes and makes himself a big star elsewhere, we will see if I'm wrong.

 

[Berniewood Hogan]

If Sandow had a year of Cena's booking, he'd be one of the most popular guys of the last 10 years or so.

HELL, SANDOW HAD A COUPLE YEARS OF SANDOW'S BOOKING AND HE'S VERY POPULAR WITH THE PEOPLE, BROTHER! VINCE JUST DOESN'T WANT ANY COMEDY GIMMICK GUYS MOVING AHEAD FOR SOME REASON, DUDE!