Bill Belichick Decaying Before Our Eyes Breh

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The main thing I don't understand with Belichick the past few years is why he hasn't gone "all in". He's not getting any younger. I don't understand not going for the kill.
 

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Excellent analysis of the post-Brady era

Beli has been making those mistakes for years... now that Brady ain't here to cover it up, it's looking spooky for :beli:


Can you explain this? So Bill had nothing to do with winning those championships, Brady himself will tell you Bill had just as much to do with winning than him. Must’ve missed the “Game Manager” Bruschi, Samuel, Seymour, Ty Law, Rodney Harrison years.


Did We forget?

Brady didnt win the Tuck Rule game the Defense and Snow Did.

Brady Didn’t win the Super Bowl Vs the Rams Defense did.

You probably don’t remember the Dew Bennett drop in the 2003 Divisional round when the Patriots Held the MVP of the league Steve McNair to 14 points and Drew Bennett had a terrible drop. Yeah let’s Credit Brady with that W as well.


The Very next week they shut down the other MVP Peyton Manning(14 points) Ty Law 3 Interceptions and Rodney Harrison one, Adam Vinatieri had 5 field goals BUT let’s write that W on Brady as well. In route to another Super Bowl

The very next year Defense won the Super Bowl vs the eagles 4 turnovers and Deion Branch was the MVP.

The Super Bowl vs the Seahawks the defense had the most important play of the game the Malcom Butler INT and Let’s not forget the game before that when the Defense made Andrew Luck look like Zach Wilson (3 interceptions) and LeGarrette Blount rushed for 3 TDs and Indy only scored 7 points, Brady had one INT that later was the talk of the NFL known as Deflategate But Bill had nothing to do with that. Let’s write that W to Tom Brady as well.

I give him the Credit for the Falcons W because the defense only showed up in the 2nd half.

Are you giving him Credit for the Rams Super Bowl when Bill and the Pats defense held the Rams to 3 points and Julian Edelman was the MVP? Or you giving Brady the Credit too.

Where were you? Are you a really a Pats fan or you wanna forget what the defense and special teams did ? Bill Put two Hall of Famers names Adam Vinatieri and Stephen Gostkowski that won many games but Ot was all Brady.

Let’s not take credit away from where the credit is due. BOTH Bill and Tom had as much to do with winning those championships. Brady benefited just as much from Having the Defense and Beli and vice versa.



 
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Can you explain this? So Bill had nothing to do with winning those championships, Brady himself will tell you Bill had just as much to do with winning than him. Must’ve missed the “Game Manager” Bruschi, Samuel, Seymour, Ty Lawyears


That isn't their rank; that's points allowed. They have had some atrocious defenses under Beli. Their actual yardage ranks are:

'00 - 20
'01 - 24
'02 - 23
'03 - 7
'04 - 9
'05 - 26
'06 - 6
'07 - 4
'08 - 10
'09 - 11
'10 - 25
'11 - 31
'12 - 25
'13 - 26
'14 - 13
'15 - 9
'16 - 8
'17 - 29
'18 - 21
'19 - 1
'20 - 15
'21 - 4
'22 - 8
 

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That isn't their rank; that's points allowed. They have had some atrocious defenses under Beli. Their actual yardage ranks are:

'00 - 20
'01 - 24
'02 - 23
'03 - 7
'04 - 9
'05 - 26
'06 - 6
'07 - 4
'08 - 10
'09 - 11
'10 - 25
'11 - 31
'12 - 25
'13 - 26
'14 - 13
'15 - 9
'16 - 8
'17 - 29
'18 - 21
'19 - 1
'20 - 15
'21 - 4
'22 - 8


Do yards or points win games? It's points.

Using yards like most people for these rankings is disgusting.:scust:.
 

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That isn't their rank; that's points allowed. They have had some atrocious defenses under Beli. Their actual yardage ranks are:

'00 - 20
'01 - 24
'02 - 23
'03 - 7
'04 - 9
'05 - 26
'06 - 6
'07 - 4
'08 - 10
'09 - 11
'10 - 25
'11 - 31
'12 - 25
'13 - 26
'14 - 13
'15 - 9
'16 - 8
'17 - 29
'18 - 21
'19 - 1
'20 - 15
'21 - 4
'22 - 8
NEWSFLASH Points is what WINS games. Points is the most important defensive team stat in the game. You lose the Yard battle you can still win the game.
 

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Brady Didn’t win the Super Bowl Vs the Rams Defense did.

Brady and the offense absolutely won that Super Bowl when they averaged 30.3 PPG in the playoffs. They don't get a chance to win the Super Bowl against the Rams without Brady out dueling Mahommes in the AFC Championship in a 37-31 shootout.
 

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Brady and the offense absolutely won that Super Bowl when they averaged 30.3 PPG in the playoffs. They don't get a chance to win the Super Bowl against the Rams without Brady out dueling Mahommes in the AFC Championship in a 37-31 shootout.


The Defense won this game breh. Held the Rams to 3 points in the Super Bowl.

And I’m not saying Brady had nothing to do with winning I’m saying Belichick and the defense deserve as much credit, yes Brady Bailed them out but Bill and them wasn’t just riding his coattails.


The Rams were one of the Best offenses in the game and Beli sonned McVay.

The offense Scored 13 points, Brady had 0 TD 1 INT and Sony Michel scored the only TD in the game.

 
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Can you explain this? So Bill had nothing to do with winning those championships,
You people need to stop with these stupid rhetorical questions.

No one is saying Tom did it all by himself. We know he had a really good defense.

Again, no one is saying Tom did it all by yourself. We know he had a really good defense. But all you Belichick dikkriders can do is repeat the same generic "good defense won those games" line and intentionally miss the big picture:

Brady's ability to perform well and elevate those receiving corps, lead the locker room, and be clutch in the postseason was able to cover up Bill's shytty drafting, shytty personality (that many players have talked about), and cheapness, and mediocre-ass coaching staffs, thus allowing Bill Belichick's defenses to shine. The only reason Brady was even "a game manager" back then was because he didn't have much to work with on offense.

Belichicks defenses weren't able to amount to anything significant in his other 11 seasons without Brady. Why? Because then his other flaws were no longer masked by Tom those years. If the Pats carried Brady those years, then why hasn't Bill been able to carry other QBs to titles the same way?

I feel like I'm wasting my time explaining this basic ass common sense logic :snoop: I'm sick
 

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You people need to stop with these stupid rhetorical questions.

No one is saying Tom did it all by himself. We know he had a really good defense.

Again, no one is saying Tom did it all by yourself. We know he had a really good defense. But all you Belichick dikkriders can do is repeat the same generic "good defense won those games" line and intentionally miss the big picture:

Brady's ability to perform well and elevate those receiving corps, lead the locker room, and be clutch in the postseason was able to cover up Bill's shytty drafting, shytty personality (that many players have talked about), and cheapness, and mediocre-ass coaching staffs, thus allowing Bill Belichick's defenses to shine. The only reason Brady was even "a game manager" back then was because he didn't have much to work with on offense.

Belichicks defenses weren't able to amount to anything significant in his other 11 seasons without Brady. Why? Because then his other flaws were no longer masked by Tom those years. If the Pats carried Brady those years, then why hasn't Bill been able to carry other QBs to titles the same way?

I feel like I'm wasting my time explaining this basic ass common sense logic :snoop: I'm sick


Bill Gave him PRIME Randy Moss/Wes Walker and the best O-Line so he can STFU about weapons, Patriots went on a Championship drought because Brady couldn’t get pass Manning Brothers. The Guy lost to Eli Maning TWICE in the Super Bowl where he scored 17 and 14 points and the defense left it all on the field. The Giants averaged 18 points in those two super bowls and the Pats offense 15.5 but hey they went 18-0 😂😂😂 the guy just wanted to air it out all game instead of the dink and dunk offense.



Bill the 6 time Super Bowl Champion as a GM Had to go and Get Revis/Gillie/HighTower/VanNoy/Collins and revamp the defense to where it was before and turn DEFENSE to reignite the dynasty. Gave him the “game manager” starter pack Tight ends(Hernandez, Gronk), RBs, the best O line in the league and the Best Kicker and Literally undersized college QB and white wide receivers that caught 5 yard passes to move the chains, patriots won 3 more championships.

Did you miss that? Defense wins championships.
 
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