Billy King y'all :pacspit: The Official 2015 Nets Offseason Thread

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Yo these guys at RealGM think we should gut our roster for unlimited capspace and make a run at KD/Lebron :laff::laff:


Like haven't they learned that you dont take shortcuts on your way to building a contender :beli:

But....the pure delusion :wow:
 

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Yo these guys at RealGM think we should gut our roster for unlimited capspace and make a run at KD/Lebron :laff::laff:


Like haven't they learned that you dont take shortcuts on your way to building a contender :beli:

But....the pure delusion :wow:
Neither are coming here. No shot.

Hope for guys like Conley or Derozan next year. That's about it though :yeshrug:
 
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Dudes got everything you can ask for except a consistent jump shot.......but have ya'll been peeping his lil elbow jumper he got going on. sh!ts been money :banderas:

The playmaking/feel for the game/ passing/ defense is there....and Boatright is showing out we going to need his shooting.
 

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Neither are coming here. No shot.

Hope for guys like Conley or Derozan next year. That's about it though :yehsrug:


Conley aint coming Mark said he wouldn't sign long term w/ the Griz if he conely was going to leave...


Aint no way i want that inefficient chucker taking shots away from brook for an absurd contract (which he will get) :camby:

I think we will have 39mil in space next season....i havn't taken a look at the F/A list but we need to somehow get a quality PG and a shooter or two.
 

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Conley aint coming Mark said he wouldn't sign long term w/ the Griz if he conely was going to leave...


Aint no way i want that inefficient chucker taking shots away from brook for an absurd contract (which he will get) :camby:

I think we will have 39mil in space next season....i havn't taken a look at the F/A list but we need to somehow get a quality PG and a shooter or two.
Yea, I don't see Conley coming here either. I like Derozan, but he's gonna be massively overpaid. I'm good on that

I took a look at the FA list for PGs next year, and outside of Conley & Jennings, that list is :trash:
 

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NY Daily News
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S. Bondy: Deron Williams couldn't handle the big city
STEFAN BONDYNEW YORK DAILY NEWS 07/11/2015 3:05 PM ET
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HOWARD SIMMONS/NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Deron Williams lost his confidence and his game while playing for the Nets in Brooklyn.
It was about an hour after another disappointing performance from Deron Williams, a couple days following Paul Pierce’s public comments casting Brooklyn’s point guard as a mental softie.

In the Barclays Center hallways, a Nets player made a plea for compassion. Or maybe it was pity.

“If you can,” he told two media members, “take it easy on D-Will. He can’t handle it.”

FOLLOW THE DAILY NEWS SPORTS ON FACEBOOK. "LIKE" US HERE

Those last four words came to define Williams’ tenure with the Nets, a three-and-a-half season stint that ended in a way thought unimaginable when he signed a $100 million contract three years ago. The Nets agreed to buy him out Friday, essentially paying Williams $25 million to walk away and sever the regrettable ties.

So how’d it get to this point? How did a player once deemed the best point guard in the NBA end up on waivers just to spare Mikhail Prokhorov some luxury-tax penalties? Why did Williams force a move to the Dallas team he spurned to sign with the Nets in 2012?

We can look at his injuries. The poor response to the spotlight. The fragile psyche. The discomforts of city living. The alienation by teammates. The multiple personalities Williams projected.

The issues accumulated, and they all boiled over.

But mostly, Williams and the Nets both just ran out of reasons to salvage a relationship that devolved into a steady ride to rock bottom.

When Williams first joined the Nets in a 2011 trade, he was the alpha dog in the locker room, the confident leader of a group that was losing two-thirds of its games. Much of this status was forged by how the organization treated Williams. The Nets bowed to the point guard out of fear he’d leave in free agency.

Plus, Williams was still very good — even if his teammates weren’t.

But somewhere between the ankle injections and accumulation of large personalities in the locker room, Williams lost his game and confidence. There was a physical deterioration, sure. But Williams stopped believing in himself.

Pierce tried to address the issue. During the 2014 playoff series against the Raptors, the future Hall of Famer took Williams out to dinner and essentially became his

psychiatrist, according to a source. With the dinner bill moving into the thousands, Pierce reassured Williams, “I don’t want to hear about (Toronto point guard) Kyle Lowry.

You’re better than Kyle Lowry.”

Later, Pierce condescendingly asked his teammates about Williams, saying “And that’s the guy the team is built around?”

Last season Williams grew even more disenchanted by the idea of playing out his contract in Brooklyn, even more isolated from his teammates. He and his wife, Amy, had always preferred the quiet and open spaces of Utah for their four children, or in their hometown of Dallas. Plus, the Nets were perpetually in turmoil and changing coaches. It was easy for Williams and his camp to blame the circumstances, rather than look inward. He felt disrespected by the organization, for one reason or another. Much of it boiled down to Williams’ desire to play fast and the Nets’ inability to do so.

Williams also clashed with Lionel Hollins last season after brokering a meeting to air his dissatisfactions. The Nets coach can be blunt and arrogant, and sources tell The News that Williams had to be physically restrained from attacking his coach during the meeting.

There is a paradox to Williams, too. He often acts surly and standoffish, rubbing people the wrong way at all levels of the organization. He can prompt eye-rolling, like when he walked off the practice court last season to get a nail clipper from the trainer because of some cuticle issue. But other times he’s engaging, personable — the realest human being in a locker room filled with young millionaires. Williams is also the father of an adopted child with autism, a devoted family man.

But in Brooklyn, he’ll be

remembered as a bust. An ill-fitted character. The wrong player to entrust the keys to the franchise.

Williams gets a fresh start in Dallas and that’s what’s best for everybody. A lot of smart basketball people are predicting a rejuvenated season from Williams,

which would only further the notion that he just couldn’t handle New York.
 

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You were doing so well Billy. Why? I don't care if he signed for free and never sees a minute, I don't want Bargs near this team
 

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NY Daily News
Nets
S. Bondy: Deron Williams couldn't handle the big city
STEFAN BONDYNEW YORK DAILY NEWS 07/11/2015 3:05 PM ET
brooklyn-nets.jpg

HOWARD SIMMONS/NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Deron Williams lost his confidence and his game while playing for the Nets in Brooklyn.
It was about an hour after another disappointing performance from Deron Williams, a couple days following Paul Pierce’s public comments casting Brooklyn’s point guard as a mental softie.

In the Barclays Center hallways, a Nets player made a plea for compassion. Or maybe it was pity.

“If you can,” he told two media members, “take it easy on D-Will. He can’t handle it.”

FOLLOW THE DAILY NEWS SPORTS ON FACEBOOK. "LIKE" US HERE

Those last four words came to define Williams’ tenure with the Nets, a three-and-a-half season stint that ended in a way thought unimaginable when he signed a $100 million contract three years ago. The Nets agreed to buy him out Friday, essentially paying Williams $25 million to walk away and sever the regrettable ties.

So how’d it get to this point? How did a player once deemed the best point guard in the NBA end up on waivers just to spare Mikhail Prokhorov some luxury-tax penalties? Why did Williams force a move to the Dallas team he spurned to sign with the Nets in 2012?

We can look at his injuries. The poor response to the spotlight. The fragile psyche. The discomforts of city living. The alienation by teammates. The multiple personalities Williams projected.

The issues accumulated, and they all boiled over.

But mostly, Williams and the Nets both just ran out of reasons to salvage a relationship that devolved into a steady ride to rock bottom.

When Williams first joined the Nets in a 2011 trade, he was the alpha dog in the locker room, the confident leader of a group that was losing two-thirds of its games. Much of this status was forged by how the organization treated Williams. The Nets bowed to the point guard out of fear he’d leave in free agency.

Plus, Williams was still very good — even if his teammates weren’t.

But somewhere between the ankle injections and accumulation of large personalities in the locker room, Williams lost his game and confidence. There was a physical deterioration, sure. But Williams stopped believing in himself.

Pierce tried to address the issue. During the 2014 playoff series against the Raptors, the future Hall of Famer took Williams out to dinner and essentially became his

psychiatrist, according to a source. With the dinner bill moving into the thousands, Pierce reassured Williams, “I don’t want to hear about (Toronto point guard) Kyle Lowry.

You’re better than Kyle Lowry.”

Later, Pierce condescendingly asked his teammates about Williams, saying “And that’s the guy the team is built around?”

Last season Williams grew even more disenchanted by the idea of playing out his contract in Brooklyn, even more isolated from his teammates. He and his wife, Amy, had always preferred the quiet and open spaces of Utah for their four children, or in their hometown of Dallas. Plus, the Nets were perpetually in turmoil and changing coaches. It was easy for Williams and his camp to blame the circumstances, rather than look inward. He felt disrespected by the organization, for one reason or another. Much of it boiled down to Williams’ desire to play fast and the Nets’ inability to do so.

Williams also clashed with Lionel Hollins last season after brokering a meeting to air his dissatisfactions. The Nets coach can be blunt and arrogant, and sources tell The News that Williams had to be physically restrained from attacking his coach during the meeting.

There is a paradox to Williams, too. He often acts surly and standoffish, rubbing people the wrong way at all levels of the organization. He can prompt eye-rolling, like when he walked off the practice court last season to get a nail clipper from the trainer because of some cuticle issue. But other times he’s engaging, personable — the realest human being in a locker room filled with young millionaires. Williams is also the father of an adopted child with autism, a devoted family man.

But in Brooklyn, he’ll be

remembered as a bust. An ill-fitted character. The wrong player to entrust the keys to the franchise.

Williams gets a fresh start in Dallas and that’s what’s best for everybody. A lot of smart basketball people are predicting a rejuvenated season from Williams,

which would only further the notion that he just couldn’t handle New York.
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the part i bolded... I've said that since sohh. the team was constructed to go AGAINST his play style. i even said the shyt in the old thread. the sucess that came from bein on the jazz was the fast pace offense, athletic wings and shooters. dude is amazing in the open court and pick and roll. NONE of the offenses ran after 2012 suited his style of play.. who the fukk puts a pg with handles off the ball :dahell: then go out and get old nikkas that cant run and get joe who is ball dominant. billy king sucks, makes terrible deals, and cant put together a team to compliment a star or 2 stars. :pacspit: @ billy king


then this mufuka goes and signs bargs :dead:
 

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the part i bolded... I've said that since sohh. the team was constructed to go AGAINST his play style. i even said the shyt in the old thread. the sucess that came from bein on the jazz was the fast pace offense, athletic wings and shooters. dude is amazing in the open court and pick and roll. NONE of the offenses ran after 2012 suited his style of play.. who the fukk puts a pg with handles off the ball :dahell: then go out and get old nikkas that cant run and get joe who is ball dominant. billy king sucks, makes terrible deals, and cant put together a team to compliment a star or 2 stars. :pacspit: @ billy king


then this mufuka goes and signs bargs :dead:

There's some truth to it, but stop making excuses for this nikka. When he first came to NJ his wrist hurt and he blamed his shooting on "poor sight lines" :comeon:, then he blamed Avery's iso system, then he couldnt stop getting injured. This motherfukker aint had functioning ankles in 3 years and I'm supposed to believe he wouldve been a totally different player in a faster paced system? :camby:
 
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