Billy Porter calls out Clarence Thomas

[TEH]

Fudge packing sissy

 

[Reflected]

Clarence Thomas is for black people. You just don't understand what being for black people is.

No way in hell you know anything about Thomas while saying shyt like this, I would be surprised if you could mention one ruling, favorable or not, on black issues coming from Thomas with a gun to your head. My assumption is another minsterpetation of the former years of Thomas into some 3d chess long play, similar to Sowell, but that is simply not the case, at all. And how to the fukk are you for black people while being married to a MAGA white woman whose family described you as one of the good blacks? You guys run this contrarian shyt to the point of being silly on everything, take this from a seasoned contrarian, you have to do a little reading before jumping into topics.

 

[ColdSlither]

Clarence Thomas is for black people. You just don't understand what being for black people is.

Back it up with receipts.

 

[Pimp]

No way in hell you know anything about Thomas while saying shyt like this, I would be surprised if you could mention one ruling, favorable or not, on black issues coming from Thomas with a gun to your head. My assumption is another minsterpetation of the former years of Thomas into some 3d chess long play, similar to Sowell, but that is simply not the case, at all. And how to the fukk are you for black people while being married to a MAGA white woman whose family described you as one of the good blacks? You guys run this contrarian shyt to the point of being silly on everything, take this from a seasoned contrarian, you have to do a little reading before jumping into topics.

If you think Thomas Sowell is bad then your problem is you don't identify the problem in the black community. That's why you can't understand black people who don't complain and blame everyone for their shortcomings. It's people like you that will fail in life and point the finger at everyone else but yourself.

The black community has words like c00n, Uncle Tom, etc to separate people who are advanced thinkers from the average person. I don't know any other race that has terms like that. I'm pretty sure if Bill Gates was black people would call him c00n like they do all rich black people.

 

[Reflected]

If you think Thomas Sowell is bad then your problem is you don't identify the problem in the black community. That's why you can't understand black people who don't complain and blame everyone for their shortcomings. It's people like you that will fail in life and point the finger at everyone else but yourself.

The black community has words like c00n, Uncle Tom, etc to separate people who are advanced thinkers from the average person. I don't know any other race that has terms like that. I'm pretty sure if Bill Gates was black people would call him c00n like they do all rich black people.

Yeah, all of this nonsense. Post the recent decisions by Thomas that indicate being pro-black. Prove you are notch above everyone else, it should be an easy defence.

 

[Duke Wy Lin]

I'm sure the honorable Mr. Thomas is shaking in his robes.

 

[Reflected]

Back it up with receipts.

I'm asking the same, I even opened with that, and he didn't mention anything, just latched on to defending Sowell and somehow stretching that to assume my major disagreements with Sowell on are the economic side, as opposed to the political side. We aren't going to get the decisions because this idiot doesn't know what the fukk he is talking about. @Pimp You are out of depth, it will be proven here.

 

[Duke Wy Lin]

By the way, Clarence Thomas is definitely not a white supremacist by any means. He has some pretty extreme views, but he is "pro black" in some fukked up Darwinian way. He's a right wing black nationalist, if that makes sense.

He believes that America will never truly embrace black Americans and that racism can not be overcome. He also believes that only the strongest black ppl can survive and even thrive in America. He believes that liberals are damaging black Americans by selling them a lie. Anyway, you can read more in a biography that was recently released called "The Enigma of Clarence Thomas"

Here's a very good review which summarizes Thomas' views:

As I suspect is the case with most people, before reading this book the bulk of my knowledge about Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas consisted of the fact that he is a conservative, he was accused of sexual harassment at his confirmation, and that he never speaks during Supreme Court hearings. Donald Trump also recently called him “his favorite Supreme Court judge”, which on its face seems to suggest what kind of craven, self-loathing individual he must be. As it turns out, this picture is not just simplistic but wildly incorrect. Believe it or not, and I would not have believed it had I not read this book, Thomas is a lifelong militant black nationalist: an admiring student of Malcolm X and Garveyite who even gave his son an Arabic name. Amazingly enough all these details about Thomas were in plain sight in his biography and his written opinions. It seems that no one had really bothered to pay attention.

Thomas grew up in the Jim Crow south and this experience colors his entire view of America and what it can and cannot be. Unlike liberals and leftists, he does not think that racism can be overcome. To believe otherwise is a myth – one that is primarily dangerous to black people who are lulled into believing it. Thomas’s apparent alliance with the most extreme segments of the American white identitarianism are something like Malcolm’s calculation in exploring a tactical alliance with the Klan. Even his rulings from the court, often upholding the most draconian punishments for black people caught in the justice system, are apparently based on some sort of Darwinian fitness logic. Thomas is a strong believer in the black patriarch who got his family through the harsh trials of slavery and Jim Crow, as his own beloved grandfather did. He wants black men to have the right to bear arms, to be harshly defended from treasonous criminals inside their own community, and to be forged by the fires of constant adversity into the only type of people strong enough to defend against an inherently predatory white majority. This is his world.

A lot of Thomas’s proposed policies track onto the desires of actual white racists; a fact of which he is aware, but not overly concerned. Thomas expects white people to be racist and believes this barrier can never be overcome. As such, it is preferable to deal with people on what he sees as honest terms. He supports free market policies because he believes that the impersonal market is one of the only zones of contestation where black people potentially can create real freedom for themselves: an idea of black libertarianism and economic autonomy that was reflected in his youth by organizations like the Black Panthers. He is also aware of the distaste with which he is viewed by his own community, much of which is liberal and leftist in orientation. Thomas says that it “pains him that he is seen as working against his own community.” Indeed, in his own mind, he is doing the exact opposite by administering the hard standards that he believes shaped him into who he is.

This is one of my favorite types of book because it is essentially a history of ideas told through the life story of a person. In this case the ideas being discussed are those of right-wing black nationalism. You can disagree with Clarence Thomas. But you should not underestimate him, as many of his liberal critics do with great condescension. While the book doesn’t grapple with the possibility of personal corruption infiltrating his rulings and worldview over the years, his ideology demonstrates its own internally consistent logic. It’s a logic forged by the bleak realities of four centuries of black life in the United States, an upbringing in the totalitarian world of Jim Crow and a childhood that was almost destroyed by an absent father before being rescued by a sternly patriarchal grandparent. According to Thomas's worldview, human beliefs and practices may fluctuate over time, but in the end they always revert back to the mean. Anyone seeking to rebut him should consider grappling with the force of such a claim. (less)

 

[the elastic]

A lot of Thomas’s proposed policies track onto the desires of actual white racists; a fact of which he is aware, but not overly concerned. Thomas expects white people to be racist and believes this barrier can never be overcome. As such, it is preferable to deal with people on what he sees as honest terms. He supports free market policies because he believes that the impersonal market is one of the only zones of contestation where black people potentially can create real freedom for themselves: an idea of black libertarianism and economic autonomy that was reflected in his youth by organizations like the Black Panthers. He is also aware of the distaste with which he is viewed by his own community, much of which is liberal and leftist in orientation. Thomas says that it “pains him that he is seen as working against his own community.” Indeed, in his own mind, he is doing the exact opposite by administering the hard standards that he believes shaped him into who he is.

So basically he's an accelerationalist?

 

[TheAnointedOne]

Black women and black LGBT weirdos are used as pawns for white liberals, and they're completely unaware of that they're being used. shyt is tiring.

By the way, Clarence Thomas is definitely not a white supremacist by any means. He has some pretty extreme views, but he is "pro black" in some fukked up Darwinian way. He's a right wing black nationalist, if that makes sense.

He believes that America will never truly embrace black Americans and that racism can not be overcome. He also believes that only the strongest black ppl can survive and even thrive in America. He believes that liberals are damaging black Americans by selling them a lie. Anyway, you can read more in a biography that was recently released called "The Enigma of Clarence Thomas"

Here's a very good review which summarizes Thomas' views:

No one here is going to read all that and continue to call him a 'c00n' for simply being republican.

 

[Reflected]

By the way, Clarence Thomas is definitely not a white supremacist by any means. He has some pretty extreme views, but he is "pro black" in some fukked up Darwinian way. He's a right wing black nationalist, if that makes sense.

He believes that America will never truly embrace black Americans and that racism can not be overcome. He also believes that only the strongest black ppl can survive and even thrive in America. He believes that liberals are damaging black Americans by selling them a lie. Anyway, you can read more in a biography that was recently released called "The Enigma of Clarence Thomas"

Here's a very good review which summarizes Thomas' views:

I see that argument, as it's typically thrown around when this topic comes up.

I would advise just going through @EndDomination posts on this topic starting on this page:

Clarence Thomas is a pessimistic separatist black nationalist & thinks racism cant be fixed?!

Fam. They called Condoleezza Rice...fukkin' "CONDIE" :gucci: This woman had more credentials than that whole fukkin administration combined :mindblown: fam. SHES FROM that church that was bombed in the 60s with the 4 little girls :wow: Thats a different generation fam :wow: She must also be...

www.thecoli.com

It's really just in the decisions Thomas makes, I feel that's where the major disconnect come from, like Sowell. People become aware of his formative years, skip the major decisions, and then see it as being moves to support ideas held during those years.

 

[Duke Wy Lin]

I see that argument, as it's typically thrown around when this topic comes up.

I would advise just going through @EndDomination posts on this topic starting on this page:

Clarence Thomas is a pessimistic separatist black nationalist & thinks racism cant be fixed?!

Fam. They called Condoleezza Rice...fukkin' "CONDIE" :gucci: This woman had more credentials than that whole fukkin administration combined :mindblown: fam. SHES FROM that church that was bombed in the 60s with the 4 little girls :wow: Thats a different generation fam :wow: She must also be...

www.thecoli.com

It's really just in the decisions Thomas makes, I feel that's where the major disconnect come from, like Sowell. People become aware of his formative years, skip the major decisions, and then see it as being moves to support ideas held during those years.

The biography that I referenced goes through his decisions/comments as well breh. Doesn't just rely on his formative years. You can't just write him off as your typical garden variety uncle Tom.

 

[CodeKansas]

Dirt Dauber babble.

 

[Reflected]

From the libertarian side of things, can someone from the "for Thomas"camp explain to me how voting to allow the weakening of the black vote is libertarian? And can you explain how that helps black people?

In 5-4 vote, justices reinstate Alabama voting map despite lower courts ruling that it dilutes Black votes

The Supreme Court on Monday allowed Alabama to implement a redistricting plan that is being challenged as illegal racial gerrymandering. A lower court ruled last month that the states new […]

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The Supreme Court on Monday allowed Alabama to implement a redistricting plan that is being challenged as illegal racial gerrymandering. A lower court ruled last month that the state’s new congressional map likely violates the Voting Rights Act, and it ordered the state to draw a new map. But the Supreme Court in a 5-4 decision put the lower court’s ruling on hold, effectively allowing Alabama to proceed with its preferred map as it prepares for primary elections in May.

Alabama created the redistricting plan after the 2020 census for the state’s seven seats in the House of Representatives. One of the seven districts in the plan is a majority-Black district. Registered voters, along with the Alabama chapter of the NAACP and Greater Birmingham Ministries, a multifaith community organization, went to federal court to challenge the map. They argued that the state had illegally packed many Black voters into a single district while dispersing other clusters of Black voters across multiple districts. The effect of the map, according to the challengers, is to minimize the number of districts in which Black voters can elect their chosen candidates.

But here, she said, “[a]ccepting Alabama’s contentions would rewrite decades of this Court’s precedents about Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act.” If the court is going to make these changes, she stressed, it should do so after full briefing and oral argument, not on the so-called “shadow docket.” In Kagan’s view, the district court properly applied existing law. Putting its ruling on hold, she wrote, “forces black Alabamians to suffer what under that law is clear vote dilution.”

Just those three quotes, you can read the rest if you want. How does this decision help black people?

@Duke Wy Lin
@Pimp
@Negative.Gate

I have other very recent rulings too, of a similar light. But I want your honest takes on this matter.

More info on the decision:

Supreme Court lets Alabama use GOP-backed map of the state's congressional districts

The court's action came on an emergency appeal from Alabama, which challenged a decision by a three-judge federal court panel that included two Trump appointees.

www.npr.org

 

[get these nets]

The biography that I referenced goes through his decisions/comments as well breh. Doesn't just rely on his formative years. You can't just write him off as your typical garden variety uncle Tom.

Respect your opinion, but the thread recommended to you is worth reading and noting. The member that was referenced is a practicing attorney, and he has a better insight into those decisions and comments, and their ramifications, than the average person would.

I'd imagine he has a more relevant take on those decisions, than the author of the book you listed.