Birdman Feels The South Deserves More. Credit for "Keeping Hip Hop Alive"

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The degradation of Hip Hop started with the South's mainstream dominance.

I don’t like playing the regional sh*t, but we all know that. The ignorant, microwave, simplistic and druggy-culture movements all grew momentum with the South, and labels caught on, and started dumping 360's into the region because they saw that the ignorance sold. Once they saw they didn't have to invest as much money into long careers and development, they all started fishing for more and more sensationalism in lower-quality artists they knew could make them a quick dollar until the artist ran out of steam. I sat in a bunch of those meetings myself and heard execs speak on it. They want a lower standard and faster capital, with shorter careers.

It's not because that's where all the talent is. It's just where the labels noticed it was easier to get over. So it's no coincidence that the quality in the music is at an all-time low, and the majority of this music is coming out of the South. That's not exactly "running sh*t" like people would want you to believe. It's exploitation in a spot where the standard has been mad low since the actual southern greats slowed up with their output.

So I hate to say it, but Hip Hop died in the South, and Scarface said the same. The standard for what high-quality Hip Hop is supposed to be, hasn't been seen in The South in a very long time. Rico Wade said he "doesn't even recognize the south right now" in music because it's so bad. Dallas Austin and JD spoke on it recently too and said it needs to go back to being "more about making classic music". So the southern GOAT's speak on it a lot and they see it too. Problem is, nobody in the south cares about trying to match the greatness of its past.
 
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Post makes perfect sense. Are you saying that hip hop in general needed the Juvenile album to survive? Jay-Z dropped volume 2 before 400 degrees. Hip hop didn’t need the south to “save” it.

Before Juve, there was No Limit. Regardless of what people thought of that label 23 albums in one year with 50%+ being gold or platinum was huge. Then you still gad mainstays like Kast.
 

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No lies told imo.
 

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Before Juve, there was No Limit. Regardless of what people thought of that label 23 albums in one year with 50%+ being gold or platinum was huge. Then you still gad mainstays like Kast.

We are not debating the south’s relevance. We’re debating the statement that the south kept hip hop alive. Which is a terrible statement , especially from a dude who first major tour was with a New York label.
 
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If Birdman feels like the South should get more credit he should probably start giving artists the credit THEY deserve by making sure they get the fair splits of publishing, it would also be didn’t if he didn’t try to have artists he once called his sons murdered by other artists. Might help to not sexually abuse children either.


P.S. can all producers please get paid?
 

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The South destroyed hip hop... no longer was about the artistry when they took it over :manny:

Letting hoes control the sound and letting men wear women's clothing for fast $$$$. :scust:

Some brehs are acting like CACs, and are determined to change history and erase history of the East Coast altogether.
 

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The victim mentality continues.

NY and the east coast should never listen to this foolery cause if the south had a hip hop lengend show right now they would make sure it’s only southern dudes on that stage.

Birdman should take his lazy ass to ATL and make his own show.

But he won’t cause looking for attention is easier.

Can’t wait for the day one of these NY dudes gets the courage to call out these victims

Inferiority complex while winning is crazy lol
 

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The degradation of Hip Hop started with the South's mainstream dominance.

I don’t like playing the regional sh*t, but we all know that. The ignorant, microwave, simplistic and druggy-culture movements all grew momentum with the South, and labels caught on, and started dumping 360's into the region because they saw that the ignorance sold. Once they saw they didn't have to invest as much money into long careers and development, they all started fishing for more and more sensationalism in lower-quality artists they knew could make them a quick dollar until the artist ran out of steam. I sat in a bunch of those meetings myself and heard execs speak on it. They want a lower standard and faster capital, with shorter careers.

It's not because that's where all the talent is. It's just where the labels noticed it was easier to get over. So it's no coincidence that the quality in the music is at an all-time low, and the majority of this music is coming out of the South. That's not exactly "running sh*t" like people would want you to believe. It's exploitation in a spot where the standard has been mad low since the actual southern greats slowed up with their output.

So I hate to say it, but Hip Hop died in the South, and Scarface said the same. The standard for what high-quality Hip Hop is supposed to be, hasn't been seen in The South in very long time. Rico Wade said he "doesn't even recognize the south right now" in music because it's so bad. Dallas Austin and JD spoke on it recently too and said it needs to go back to being "more about making classic music". So the southern GOAT's speak on it a lot and they see it too. Problem is, nobody in the south cares about trying to match the greatness of its past.

Short bus rap took over, and basically led the genre beyond recognition and regressed in every category possible. Regression of the genre is why Afrobeats is now taking over the clubs everywhere in the US and the reason why rap ain't even the #1 genre for the youth anymore.

Those mainstream simple southern acts had E-V-E-R-Y-T-H-I-N-G catered to them, and still have a victim mentality while setting the trends. Only people that are GUILTY do such actions.
 

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Short bus rap took over, and basically led the genre beyond recognition and regressed in every category possible. Regression of the genre is why Afrobeats is now taking over the clubs everywhere in the US and the reason why rap ain't even the #1 genre for the youth anymore.

Those mainstream simple southern acts had E-V-E-R-Y-T-H-I-N-G catered to them, and still have a victim mentality while setting the trends. Only people that are GUILTY do such actions.
Honestly what happened was that most of the country outside of nyc is car/driving culture. It had to move to the south and west to survive. And that’s how you get less lyrical more beat driven rap.
 

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The south had a few one hit wonders..Atlanta was consistent for a min...it wasn't great. Alright. Juvenile definitely brought them to prominance though..closest thing to a 5 mic album from that zone. If they've dominated the last 20 yrs, that's why the shut sucks these days. No classic albums. No bangers. Just nothing.
 

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Cash money didn’t get major notoriety until 99.

Made,Jay,Ja Rule,and DMX were dropping multi platinum albums. What exactly did they keep from dying?
He didn't say Cash Money.. He said the South..

The south took hip-hop over for a long time. I don't know about keeping it alive. It wasn't dying. But they were the kings of it for a long damn time.

The East Coast will always get the most shine cause it was created over there. They had the longest reign from inception to about NWA.. Then Biggie/Wu and others brought it back.. They held it again to around the 2000s before the South took that shyt over. I'd say it's way more global now and anybody can be on top.

But at the end of the day, the east coast rappers are seen as the pioneers and most of the labels and publications are on the upper east. And, like you said, every era still had an east coast rapper going multi, so they was always right there. They'll always get the bias
 
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